anyone use a mountune steel 3 layer gasket.....
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..........have they ever let go....cos i'm in "headgasket" failier troubles at the mo but these gasket are ment to be bullet proof.....so i'm thinking head or block................enqueiring minds want to know
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pete apparently the head and block face has to absolutly prestine and 100% flat for these to work properly, or so i was once told.
Why dont you just bite the bullet and take the head off, its going to have to come off anyway
Why dont you just bite the bullet and take the head off, its going to have to come off anyway
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I had one ,FORD fitted it years ago when i lived in Germany.
It lasted 500 miles ,as Mark says the block and head faces must be pretty cock on .
Mine obviously wernt
the first time i took it over 140 it was white steam every where
It lasted 500 miles ,as Mark says the block and head faces must be pretty cock on .
Mine obviously wernt
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mine were....it lasted a year so must have been.....alps....its one of those...i'd rather wait till i had the money to get it ported etc....at the mo i'd have to use my plastic...................
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Pete, you know you have a problem(no not that one )
Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket
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Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
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At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You only have problems with them if they ae incorrectly fitted, or have a fault with them. I have only heard of two having faults (out of hundreds fitted), so I would be more inclined to believe you have a cracked block or head.
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Pete, you know you have a problem(no not that one )
Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
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At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket
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I have had 2 gaskets fail, 1 had a couple of long studs sitting slightly proud of the block which caused the fault, The other had no apparent fault other than the engine was biult 7 years before.
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I have had 2 gaskets fail, 1 had a couple of long studs sitting slightly proud of the block which caused the fault, The other had no apparent fault other than the engine was biult 7 years before.
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I have had 2 gaskets fail, 1 had a couple of long studs sitting slightly proud of the block which caused the fault, The other had no apparent fault other than the engine was biult 7 years before.
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Originally Posted by Nash
Whats the car doing exactly Pete?
My mates got the same gasket and is having a few weird cooling problems.
My mates got the same gasket and is having a few weird cooling problems.
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is there any way the turbo could be leaaking into the water system?
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
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Whats the car doing exactly Pete?
My mates got the same gasket and is having a few weird cooling problems.
My mates got the same gasket and is having a few weird cooling problems.
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is there any way the turbo could be leaaking into the water system?
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
Originally Posted by righthooker
Pete, you know you have a problem(no not that one )
Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
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At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by pete mcrash
Originally Posted by righthooker
Pete, you know you have a problem(no not that one )
Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
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At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket
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a fault between the water jacket and the turbine side would result in a loss of water and a lot of steam out of the exhaust
a fault on the compressor side would also lead to water loss off boost (with the water being sucked into the engine and creating steam out of the exhaust) and possible pressurisation of the cooling system (although it runs at similar pressure to boost pressure anyway)
either way, doesn't particularly sound like that is pete's problem
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by pete mcrash
Originally Posted by righthooker
Pete, you know you have a problem(no not that one )
Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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Bite the bullit and get the head off it ,the problem aint going to go away
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At least then you know one way or another,get the head checked and the block.If they are ok all you need is a new gasket
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a fault between the water jacket and the turbine side would result in a loss of water and a lot of steam out of the exhaust
a fault on the compressor side would also lead to water loss off boost (with the water being sucked into the engine and creating steam out of the exhaust) and possible pressurisation of the cooling system (although it runs at similar pressure to boost pressure anyway)
either way, doesn't particularly sound like that is pete's problem
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Test's need to be done.
* Possible faults
coolant temps
Head/block crack,
Headgasket,
Turbo core
Header cap ratings, but if nothing else wrong, wont be a issue
1st off i'd do a
- check the coolant system is running at sensible temps, 87-94oC.
- Comp test
- Pressure check each cylinder @ 100+psi for at least 30 mins each, with gauge on coolant system,
- Coolant system pressure test, inc testing the header cap rating.
- take the car for a spin with pressure gauge on coolant, and if it goes above 5psi on normal driving @ normal running temps, and below 15 psi on a little thrash.
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If coolant pressure dont move on cyclinder press test, then usually the h/g, head and the block is fine.
If coolant pressure jumps up after a/few short blasts, then the h/g, head, block or turbo fault.
* Possible faults
coolant temps
Head/block crack,
Headgasket,
Turbo core
Header cap ratings, but if nothing else wrong, wont be a issue
1st off i'd do a
- check the coolant system is running at sensible temps, 87-94oC.
- Comp test
- Pressure check each cylinder @ 100+psi for at least 30 mins each, with gauge on coolant system,
- Coolant system pressure test, inc testing the header cap rating.
- take the car for a spin with pressure gauge on coolant, and if it goes above 5psi on normal driving @ normal running temps, and below 15 psi on a little thrash.
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If coolant pressure dont move on cyclinder press test, then usually the h/g, head and the block is fine.
If coolant pressure jumps up after a/few short blasts, then the h/g, head, block or turbo fault.
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
how is the head held on? Std bolts, long studs or ARP's?
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