Gartrac mk4's
05-01-2008, 04:34 PM
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Gartrac mk4's
How many were made? tried seaching google but it didnt really help?
where they New or what? did a company buy them new convert them then sell them new?
Carl
p.s happy new year also.
where they New or what? did a company buy them new convert them then sell them new?
Carl
p.s happy new year also.
07-01-2008, 09:06 PM
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Re: Gartrac mk4's
The company which converted these shells was Gartrac and they did various versions which were denoted a 'G' such as the 'G6' they did Mk3 and Mk4 shells... contact Gartrac for more information
I believe most of the cars actually built completely by Gartrac ran RWD and the Cologne V6
http://www.gartrac.com/
I believe most of the cars actually built completely by Gartrac ran RWD and the Cologne V6
http://www.gartrac.com/
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07-01-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu.H
gotta love em
Awesome motor though. My S2 getting the RWD YB treatment soon
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07-01-2008, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GINGExR2 T
Originally Posted by Stu.H
gotta love em
Awesome motor though. My S2 getting the RWD YB treatment soon
Steve
Not a gartrac one.
Gartrac ones have square turrets
07-01-2008, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by maxrs16
gartrac ones have custom made turrets and tunnel not sierra
A mate of mine had a Gartrac built cabriolet shell and that does not have custom turrets
07-01-2008, 10:55 PM
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The cabrio was built by a member of Staff from Gartrac iirc, was a long bloody time ago now.
That car you have shown again is live axle rwd format, I am quite sure that they did build 4x4 ones too which is "maybe" why there is the difference in turrets
I'd imagine the one pictured above runs just about all mk2 escort stuff where as the 4x4's had all the Saph running gear, suspension and steering etc.. attached.
I'm only going on things I've heard so it could be a complete load of bollocks
That car you have shown again is live axle rwd format, I am quite sure that they did build 4x4 ones too which is "maybe" why there is the difference in turrets
I'd imagine the one pictured above runs just about all mk2 escort stuff where as the 4x4's had all the Saph running gear, suspension and steering etc.. attached.
I'm only going on things I've heard so it could be a complete load of bollocks
07-01-2008, 11:11 PM
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Just looked through the pics that you have posted and its basically a mk2 Escort isn't it !, chassis mounted engine though.
IIRC on the 4x4 Mk 4's the rear wheels sat further back too and the fuel filler had been moved slightly and back bumper slightly shortened, all done so well you would never tell.
I was sure that Spadges Escort was a genuine Gartrac built shell, I'd guess that his wasn't the first of last to be wrapped round a lampost
I have no more pictures of the cabrio, it had a fully independant rear setup and the Gartrac box arches which IMO didn't suit it, strangely the car never got completed and last thing I knew was that is was still being stored in a big garage
he did want a LOT of money for it though.
I know around the same time they built a Mk5 Cabrio from a new shell but used all Escort Cosworth panels and inner wings and basically built a factory looking Escort Cosworth Cabrio, it was that rare light blue that the Cosworths come in and packed a 500hp T4'd engine with plate diffs and a trick gearbox I've only seen it go once and I thought I was doing 100mph in reverse as it overtook me
IIRC on the 4x4 Mk 4's the rear wheels sat further back too and the fuel filler had been moved slightly and back bumper slightly shortened, all done so well you would never tell.
I was sure that Spadges Escort was a genuine Gartrac built shell, I'd guess that his wasn't the first of last to be wrapped round a lampost
I have no more pictures of the cabrio, it had a fully independant rear setup and the Gartrac box arches which IMO didn't suit it, strangely the car never got completed and last thing I knew was that is was still being stored in a big garage
he did want a LOT of money for it though.I know around the same time they built a Mk5 Cabrio from a new shell but used all Escort Cosworth panels and inner wings and basically built a factory looking Escort Cosworth Cabrio, it was that rare light blue that the Cosworths come in and packed a 500hp T4'd engine with plate diffs and a trick gearbox
I've only seen it go once and I thought I was doing 100mph in reverse as it overtook me
07-01-2008, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Originally Posted by GINGExR2 T
Originally Posted by Stu.H
gotta love em
Awesome motor though. My S2 getting the RWD YB treatment soon
Steve
07-01-2008, 11:18 PM
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Yep, he was only popping to the shop too
Main thing was that he was alright as that was a proper shunt !
I think Gartrac Mike had the shell from him and Martin @ Reyland was sorting it for him, no idea if its been done or not though
Main thing was that he was alright as that was a proper shunt !
I think Gartrac Mike had the shell from him and Martin @ Reyland was sorting it for him, no idea if its been done or not though
07-01-2008, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Just looked through the pics that you have posted and its basically a mk2 Escort isn't it !, chassis mounted engine though.
IIRC on the 4x4 Mk 4's the rear wheels sat further back too and the fuel filler had been moved slightly and back bumper slightly shortened, all done so well you would never tell.
I was sure that Spadges Escort was a genuine Gartrac built shell, I'd guess that his wasn't the first of last to be wrapped round a lampost
I have no more pictures of the cabrio, it had a fully independant rear setup and the Gartrac box arches which IMO didn't suit it, strangely the car never got completed and last thing I knew was that is was still being stored in a big garage he did want a LOT of money for it though.
I know around the same time they built a Mk5 Cabrio from a new shell but used all Escort Cosworth panels and inner wings and basically built a factory looking Escort Cosworth Cabrio, it was that rare light blue that the Cosworths come in and packed a 500hp T4'd engine with plate diffs and a trick gearbox I've only seen it go once and I thought I was doing 100mph in reverse as it overtook me
IIRC on the 4x4 Mk 4's the rear wheels sat further back too and the fuel filler had been moved slightly and back bumper slightly shortened, all done so well you would never tell.
I was sure that Spadges Escort was a genuine Gartrac built shell, I'd guess that his wasn't the first of last to be wrapped round a lampost
I have no more pictures of the cabrio, it had a fully independant rear setup and the Gartrac box arches which IMO didn't suit it, strangely the car never got completed and last thing I knew was that is was still being stored in a big garage
he did want a LOT of money for it though.I know around the same time they built a Mk5 Cabrio from a new shell but used all Escort Cosworth panels and inner wings and basically built a factory looking Escort Cosworth Cabrio, it was that rare light blue that the Cosworths come in and packed a 500hp T4'd engine with plate diffs and a trick gearbox
I've only seen it go once and I thought I was doing 100mph in reverse as it overtook me its a shame the cab was never finished 
07-01-2008, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by magic randy
i used saffy floorpan on mine as it was easier for me
08-01-2008, 02:35 PM
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That carbio was a brand new shell, the Mk5 Cosworth Cabrio he has is on a private plate which if I'm not mistaken you cannot put on a Q plate car ?
Most of the converted vehicles were x road cars so that may be why they ended up on a Q
Most of the converted vehicles were x road cars so that may be why they ended up on a Q
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My step dad had one, as far as im aware it was genuine, square turrets Q plate ect, absolute awsome car, dont talk about it much but it ended up like spadges, unfortunately he didnt have the same luck and lost his life
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
08-01-2008, 06:04 PM
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the only rwd conversion cars on normal plates are normally not registered as rwd but because gartrac is a proper company they do it all legit and surely a new shell has no id so it would of gone on a q plate anyway don't no though i don't no how the q plate thing works 
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
My step dad had one, as far as im aware it was genuine, square turrets Q plate ect, absolute awsome car, dont talk about it much but it ended up like spadges, unfortunately he didnt have the same luck and lost his life
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
i read a mag with the black gartrac in, remember thinking i wanted it so i built one shame wot has happened R.I.P
09-01-2008, 03:33 PM
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My mate scarped a 'non crashed' red one maybe 10 years ago
It had a boxed / turreted (but I think live axle) back end and a V6 - he pulled the engine out because it was 'sweet' and put it in his banger car
The car had the red fleck recaros and the rear bench / cards were custom made and had been trimmed to suit.
Would have been a craking find now as based on how it ended its like it must have only cost him pennies
It had a boxed / turreted (but I think live axle) back end and a V6 - he pulled the engine out because it was 'sweet' and put it in his banger car
The car had the red fleck recaros and the rear bench / cards were custom made and had been trimmed to suit.
Would have been a craking find now as based on how it ended its like it must have only cost him pennies
09-01-2008, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
My step dad had one, as far as im aware it was genuine, square turrets Q plate ect, absolute awsome car, dont talk about it much but it ended up like spadges, unfortunately he didnt have the same luck and lost his life
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
is that your step dad in it? i remember reading the feature on it and i loved that car!!
When was the accident, so sad he died.
R.I.P
25-01-2008, 04:02 PM
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Yes carl thats him in the car mate, he died on 31/12/2003
shite time of year, as if there isnt when something like this happens.
R.I.P right enough mate
shite time of year, as if there isnt when something like this happens.
R.I.P right enough mate
25-01-2008, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
My step dad had one, as far as im aware it was genuine, square turrets Q plate ect, absolute awsome car, dont talk about it much but it ended up like spadges, unfortunately he didnt have the same luck and lost his life
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
Was in the fast ford in 2003
Only pic i have
Sorry to hear it, RIP
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Spadges was a Genesis not a Gartrac.
Im 90% sure that dark green one above was a private build. Was featured in PF magazine years ago. IIRC Brake servo was in the battery tray area so it was a bit random.
RS Automotive (Mervyn?) built a couple of Cabrios with Cossie lumps.
There was a Blue Gartac for sale on PF back in 03/04 That belonged to a poster. Duncan possibly? Was a wide arch one with a Illusion bumper and quad lights.
On a side note the arches couldnt be removed easily as all the Mk2 based cars had wider track.
Im 90% sure that dark green one above was a private build. Was featured in PF magazine years ago. IIRC Brake servo was in the battery tray area so it was a bit random.
RS Automotive (Mervyn?) built a couple of Cabrios with Cossie lumps.
There was a Blue Gartac for sale on PF back in 03/04 That belonged to a poster. Duncan possibly? Was a wide arch one with a Illusion bumper and quad lights.
On a side note the arches couldnt be removed easily as all the Mk2 based cars had wider track.
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
Spadges was a Genesis not a Gartrac.........There was a Blue Gartac for sale on PF back in 03/04 That belonged to a poster. Duncan possibly? Was a wide arch one with a Illusion bumper and quad lights.
On a side note the arches couldnt be removed easily as all the Mk2 based cars had wider track.
On a side note the arches couldnt be removed easily as all the Mk2 based cars had wider track.
