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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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no worries its a bloody good little welder!!!
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KnoxyGtt
Clarke is about the best u can buy for the money, anything around 150 is ideal for genral purpose, think machine mart do a 160T for around 250 or something, argon/co2 75/25 or 80/20 is mostly recomended and best suited for steel work

Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
clarke to me are just a hobby welder, you deffo need a turbo welder for the fan assisted cooling something like a sip or cebora
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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i started a welding course & learnt the basics but got bored & quit. then i just started practising on cars. just trial & error. welding is pretty easy but the grinding that goes with it sucks. boring & dirty . if your welding anything structural make sure you got plenty of heat/penitration. if your welding arches etc then as little heat as possible to try avoid distortion.
just a case of practice practice practice get some pics up & im sure people will tell you how your doing
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NEO™®©
Originally Posted by KnoxyGtt
Clarke is about the best u can buy for the money, anything around 150 is ideal for genral purpose, think machine mart do a 160T for around 250 or something, argon/co2 75/25 or 80/20 is mostly recomended and best suited for steel work

Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
clarke to me are just a hobby welder, you deffo need a turbo welder for the fan assisted cooling something like a sip or cebora
yeah but for the money they cos u arnt going to get anything better is all im saying
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Clarke is about the best u can buy for the money, anything around 150 is ideal for genral purpose, think machine mart do a 160T for around 250 or something, argon/co2 75/25 or 80/20 is mostly recomended and best suited for steel work

Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
clarke to me are just a hobby welder, you deffo need a turbo welder for the fan assisted cooling something like a sip or cebora
yeah but for the money they cos u arnt going to get anything better is all im saying
and all im saying is its better spending the extra 50 or so quid and then u will get a decent welder that makes a decent weld
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/
good site that
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/s...ead.php?t=4057

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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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buy one of these to make life easy

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUTO-DARKENING...QQcmdZViewItem

new wire decent argon a clean gun and some metal and play
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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i learnt to weld when i was doing my apprenticeship and we did all sorts of stuff inculidn arc, mig and the gas stuff and further down the line they were taught how to do the other stuff as well

if you want to do diff welding then you need an arc welder

for everything else mig is fine

just watch out for the splatter of pidgon poo after your first attempt

it's good to practise with laods of different thicknesses and then rememebr what settings you were using for what

it's also worth remembering that if you are crap then get the correct settings sorted before you start welding the proper stuff, so find a scrap of metal the same thickness as th eone you want to weld and get it right on there before you start on the actual bit ofmetal you are welding

it may look easy but it takes an age to get right, i took a month to do one sill on the sierra, but i did seam weld it from floorpan onwards
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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You don't need an arc welder for diff welding!

A decent mig that has got a few amps is all you need. If you can get it up into spray (when your mig goes silent) then you are laughing.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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I've done some welding, and I enjoyed it! But as a few people have said, Its just practice


I've done TIG and MIG, But what I cant remember is, Can you MIG ally


I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk


I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel
yes you can mig ally, sea cats are migged.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Oh good, as thats what I wanna teach myself once I pull my finger out!
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
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I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel
yes you can mig ally, sea cats are migged.

its just not the easiest way to do it tho
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Originally Posted by Jay.
Originally Posted by wirralphil
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I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel
yes you can mig ally, sea cats are migged.

its just not the easiest way to do it tho
Im not bad at TIG, Im actually better at TIG than I am MIG
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay.
Originally Posted by wirralphil
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I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel
yes you can mig ally, sea cats are migged.

its just not the easiest way to do it tho
the people who i seen weld ally with a mig had to do alot of training for some certificate (9 years ago) all had been in the welding game for around 10yrs + at the time.

i only got taught in one of my old jobs where we made some parts/repaired conveyor lines for a food factory. all that was Stainless Tig.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Garage19
You don't need an arc welder for diff welding!

A decent mig that has got a few amps is all you need. If you can get it up into spray (when your mig goes silent) then you are laughing.
i prefer to see big fat 1/4 inch welds on stuff like this, and you can't do that with a mig

or can you...............
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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the best thing i used to do for practice was writing things in weld.not actually joining bits of metal at first just getting used to the welder and trying to get as smoooth as poss.and you can play about with settings doing that.
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Originally Posted by dojj

i prefer to see big fat 1/4 inch welds on stuff like this, and you can't do that with a mig

or can you...............
yes, weave it so it is wider.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Clarke welders are utter shite imo as Neo said spend a bit more and get a good one

Worth its weight in gold !!!

Paul
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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This a website that I used that has taught me how to weld & understand the principles of welding
www.mig-welding.co.uk


Mike
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
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i prefer to see big fat 1/4 inch welds on stuff like this, and you can't do that with a mig

or can you...............
yes, weave it so it is wider.
i have the advantage of also owning an arc welder so i don't need to make this extra wide weld
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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What is best is get your self some kit thats fine for what your trying to do.

play with it, for a while.

then get a experience'd welder, to show you what each settings do, and show you the best setting for the type of welding your trying, and the technique that they prefere, and other technique that you might prefer, then practise.
But if your teacher show's you what is do able with you welder setup, and what to look at on a poor and a good weld, you then have something to aim for.

Then just keep trying, but conserntrate (sp) all the time.



if you need any advice, you have my number.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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top thread this guys, i fancy doing the same to do a few little jobs here and there.

what are we saying is the best welder to buy for a beginer for around £200 notes?

i take it electric welders are a waste of time?
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Originally Posted by McGoo 69
top thread this guys, i fancy doing the same to do a few little jobs here and there.

what are we saying is the best welder to buy for a beginer for around £200 notes?

i take it electric welders are a waste of time?
Electric welders is want you want, no point gas welding these days.


Matters what you want to do.


- a clark 150 amp mig welder or similar is fine for 1-4 mm mild steel.
Argon mixed gas, with 0.6 - 0.8mm weld wire.

- a cheap dc 130amp Tig welder with HF start (scratch start isn't as good for a beginner) is fine for finer finish 0.6-6mm mild or stainless steel.
But Argon gas is needed, with correct filler wire, best use 1.0-1.6mm St/St for both mild and st/st welding.

- a cheap AC/DC 200 amp tig set, for above and alloy welding.
Argon gas, and either alloy or st/st filler wire, with correct tungsten and collets and ceramic shrouds.
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