Teaching yourself welding
Originally Posted by KnoxyGtt
Clarke is about the best u can buy for the money, anything around 150 is ideal for genral purpose, think machine mart do a 160T for around 250 or something, argon/co2 75/25 or 80/20 is mostly recomended and best suited for steel work
Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
i started a welding course & learnt the basics but got bored & quit. then i just started practising on cars. just trial & error. welding is pretty easy but the grinding that goes with it sucks. boring & dirty
. if your welding anything structural make sure you got plenty of heat/penitration. if your welding arches etc then as little heat as possible to try avoid distortion.
just a case of practice practice practice
get some pics up & im sure people will tell you how your doing
. if your welding anything structural make sure you got plenty of heat/penitration. if your welding arches etc then as little heat as possible to try avoid distortion.just a case of practice practice practice
Originally Posted by NEO™®©
Originally Posted by KnoxyGtt
Clarke is about the best u can buy for the money, anything around 150 is ideal for genral purpose, think machine mart do a 160T for around 250 or something, argon/co2 75/25 or 80/20 is mostly recomended and best suited for steel work
Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
Originally Posted by KnoxyGtt
Originally Posted by NEO™®©
Originally Posted by KnoxyGtt
Clarke is about the best u can buy for the money, anything around 150 is ideal for genral purpose, think machine mart do a 160T for around 250 or something, argon/co2 75/25 or 80/20 is mostly recomended and best suited for steel work
Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
Dont bother with gasless as there pretty shite tbh, the trouble with them is that the flux wire is hard (well almost impossible) to see the puddle and also they never really come in a high amp machines so u would be looking at welding 3mm max with any gasless
buy one of these to make life easy
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUTO-DARKENING...QQcmdZViewItem
new wire decent argon a clean gun and some metal and play
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUTO-DARKENING...QQcmdZViewItem
new wire decent argon a clean gun and some metal and play
i learnt to weld when i was doing my apprenticeship and we did all sorts of stuff inculidn arc, mig and the gas stuff and further down the line they were taught how to do the other stuff as well
if you want to do diff welding then you need an arc welder
for everything else mig is fine
just watch out for the splatter of pidgon poo after your first attempt
it's good to practise with laods of different thicknesses and then rememebr what settings you were using for what
it's also worth remembering that if you are crap then get the correct settings sorted before you start welding the proper stuff, so find a scrap of metal the same thickness as th eone you want to weld and get it right on there before you start on the actual bit ofmetal you are welding
it may look easy but it takes an age to get right, i took a month to do one sill on the sierra, but i did seam weld it from floorpan onwards
if you want to do diff welding then you need an arc welder
for everything else mig is fine
just watch out for the splatter of pidgon poo after your first attempt
it's good to practise with laods of different thicknesses and then rememebr what settings you were using for what
it's also worth remembering that if you are crap then get the correct settings sorted before you start welding the proper stuff, so find a scrap of metal the same thickness as th eone you want to weld and get it right on there before you start on the actual bit ofmetal you are welding
it may look easy but it takes an age to get right, i took a month to do one sill on the sierra, but i did seam weld it from floorpan onwards
You don't need an arc welder for diff welding!
A decent mig that has got a few amps is all you need. If you can get it up into spray (when your mig goes silent) then you are laughing.
A decent mig that has got a few amps is all you need. If you can get it up into spray (when your mig goes silent) then you are laughing.
I've done some welding, and I enjoyed it! But as a few people have said, Its just practice
I've done TIG and MIG, But what I cant remember is, Can you MIG ally
I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel
I've done TIG and MIG, But what I cant remember is, Can you MIG ally
I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel
Originally Posted by wirralphil
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel

its just not the easiest way to do it tho
Originally Posted by Jay.
Originally Posted by wirralphil
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel

its just not the easiest way to do it tho
Originally Posted by Jay.
Originally Posted by wirralphil
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
I can only remember me TIG'in ally, and MIG'in steel

its just not the easiest way to do it tho
i only got taught in one of my old jobs where we made some parts/repaired conveyor lines for a food factory. all that was Stainless Tig.
Originally Posted by Garage19
You don't need an arc welder for diff welding!
A decent mig that has got a few amps is all you need. If you can get it up into spray (when your mig goes silent) then you are laughing.
A decent mig that has got a few amps is all you need. If you can get it up into spray (when your mig goes silent) then you are laughing.
or can you...............
the best thing i used to do for practice was writing things in weld.not actually joining bits of metal at first just getting used to the welder and trying to get as smoooth as poss.and you can play about with settings doing that.
Stavros
This a website that I used that has taught me how to weld & understand the principles of welding
www.mig-welding.co.uk
Mike
This a website that I used that has taught me how to weld & understand the principles of welding
www.mig-welding.co.uk
Mike
Originally Posted by wirralphil
Originally Posted by dojj
i prefer to see big fat 1/4 inch welds on stuff like this, and you can't do that with a mig
or can you...............
What is best is get your self some kit thats fine for what your trying to do.
play with it, for a while.
then get a experience'd welder, to show you what each settings do, and show you the best setting for the type of welding your trying, and the technique that they prefere, and other technique that you might prefer, then practise.
But if your teacher show's you what is do able with you welder setup, and what to look at on a poor and a good weld, you then have something to aim for.
Then just keep trying, but conserntrate (sp) all the time.
if you need any advice, you have my number.
play with it, for a while.
then get a experience'd welder, to show you what each settings do, and show you the best setting for the type of welding your trying, and the technique that they prefere, and other technique that you might prefer, then practise.
But if your teacher show's you what is do able with you welder setup, and what to look at on a poor and a good weld, you then have something to aim for.
Then just keep trying, but conserntrate (sp) all the time.
if you need any advice, you have my number.
top thread this guys, i fancy doing the same to do a few little jobs here and there.what are we saying is the best welder to buy for a beginer for around £200 notes?
i take it electric welders are a waste of time?
Originally Posted by McGoo 69
top thread this guys, i fancy doing the same to do a few little jobs here and there.what are we saying is the best welder to buy for a beginer for around £200 notes?
i take it electric welders are a waste of time?
Matters what you want to do.
- a clark 150 amp mig welder or similar is fine for 1-4 mm mild steel.
Argon mixed gas, with 0.6 - 0.8mm weld wire.
- a cheap dc 130amp Tig welder with HF start (scratch start isn't as good for a beginner) is fine for finer finish 0.6-6mm mild or stainless steel.
But Argon gas is needed, with correct filler wire, best use 1.0-1.6mm St/St for both mild and st/st welding.
- a cheap AC/DC 200 amp tig set, for above and alloy welding.
Argon gas, and either alloy or st/st filler wire, with correct tungsten and collets and ceramic shrouds.
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