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02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
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keep hearing about the things,and am considering buying one
but rather than spend hours hunched over the comp
which
site is the best or where can i find out more about them.
the one i have seen is a GTR V-SPEC 1996
whats the differance between just a gtr and a v spec gtr??
anyone had one
but rather than spend hours hunched over the comp
whichsite is the best or where can i find out more about them.
the one i have seen is a GTR V-SPEC 1996
whats the differance between just a gtr and a v spec gtr??
anyone had one
02-12-2007, 11:11 PM
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been thinking the same for ages, try here... http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/
V-spec's have this system fitted.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTESA_E-TS
V-spec's have this system fitted.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTESA_E-TS
02-12-2007, 11:16 PM
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Check out the GTR Register for info
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/
I have had 3 GTRs and can tell you for a fact that they piss all over Cosworths on performance, handling and tuneability but they are not a cheap car to run.
I had the same blinkered view as those expressed above till I drove one and after 7 Cosworths woke up and realised the GTR was the natural upgrade.
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/
I have had 3 GTRs and can tell you for a fact that they piss all over Cosworths on performance, handling and tuneability but they are not a cheap car to run.
I had the same blinkered view as those expressed above till I drove one and after 7 Cosworths woke up and realised the GTR was the natural upgrade.
02-12-2007, 11:18 PM
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you wont go back. 
I was ford for many a year, but the skyline really does do it.! Mine brings much driving fun.! and even though shes 12 years old it gets a lot of attention.!
I was ford for many a year, but the skyline really does do it.! Mine brings much driving fun.! and even though shes 12 years old it gets a lot of attention.!
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02-12-2007, 11:19 PM
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02-12-2007, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Rice rocket over priced crap imo,
Leave them to the people way say "flied lice you plick"
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Leave them to the people way say "flied lice you plick"
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02-12-2007, 11:45 PM
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LOL at the people like Ant etc slagging them with no experience of fuck all
I really dont like Skylines much anymore, im fed up with em, but in pure performance terms, they pretty much piss on pretty much anything Ford have to offer.
Filter/Exhaust/15psi is enough to get an R32GTR in to the 11s if you can drive.
They handle mint, not like a normal 4wd, more like a grippy RWD, tail happy, no understeer at all, fun, but not as "safe" as normal 4wds, unless you buy a 150quid torque split controller, then you can just turn the 4wd up a bit, then its a bit less tail happy.
this is a good (and old, and quiet) video showing the 2 sides to a R32GTR, and this is 2 fairly standard cars, one being dicked about for fun, and one just driving fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQLAL0yjo5U
All GTRs have that? Thats just the 4wd system. Tho V-Specs have a slightly faster version, as if youd notice.
If your modifying one V-Spec or not wont make much odds IMO.
I really dont like Skylines much anymore, im fed up with em, but in pure performance terms, they pretty much piss on pretty much anything Ford have to offer.
Filter/Exhaust/15psi is enough to get an R32GTR in to the 11s if you can drive.
They handle mint, not like a normal 4wd, more like a grippy RWD, tail happy, no understeer at all, fun, but not as "safe" as normal 4wds, unless you buy a 150quid torque split controller, then you can just turn the 4wd up a bit, then its a bit less tail happy.
this is a good (and old, and quiet) video showing the 2 sides to a R32GTR, and this is 2 fairly standard cars, one being dicked about for fun, and one just driving fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQLAL0yjo5U
Originally Posted by philram
V-spec's have this system fitted.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTESA_E-TS
If your modifying one V-Spec or not wont make much odds IMO.
03-12-2007, 07:54 AM
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GTR's are soooo much better than Cossies its not even funny.
They make Cossies feel like out dated tractors and are phenominal value for money.
a Ł6k R32 GTR makes a Escos at double the price feel like a very very old and shonky piece of shit!
Take off the Ford blinkers!!!
GTR's are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better to drive its not even close!
They make Cossies feel like out dated tractors and are phenominal value for money.
a Ł6k R32 GTR makes a Escos at double the price feel like a very very old and shonky piece of shit!
Take off the Ford blinkers!!!
GTR's are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better to drive its not even close!
03-12-2007, 10:28 AM
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Harsh, why say that, ? both equally tunable, gtst far far less weight than GTR, bar that all very similar, GTST about 2/3rds the cost.!
RB25 or RB26, both very similarly tunable.. so possibly a harsh awnser.!
RB25 or RB26, both very similarly tunable.. so possibly a harsh awnser.!
03-12-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
so what are the price's of the following
R32 GTR
R33 GTR
R34 GTR
just a rough figure on the above?
R32 GTR
R33 GTR
R34 GTR
just a rough figure on the above?
R34 GTR's 25-50k
I looked into getting an R34, but after driving an evo for a couple of year's i realised i'd need a pretty decent power 1 to be an upgrade. 400bhp+ due to there weight.
Then to warrent the extra 20k, i figured i might as well go all out 600bhp.
Then you look at the costs involved to own such a car and i bought another Evo.
I love skylines, but only R34 GTR's.
It would be like me buying an Evo 4 when i really want a 6 if i bought any other. But for now, the R34 IMO isn't worth the money it demands. (although economically it must be
)
03-12-2007, 10:46 AM
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mgstu.
Because what you say isnt that true really is it. They share almost no parts, they arnt remotely similar. They about as similar as a XR4i to a 4x4 Saff Cossie.
If you want a RWD car there are lot better cars to get than a GTST IMO.
They more expensive, heavier, dont look, or handle as well as a S14a 200SX, and if we just talking the usual standard turbo bolt on mods, get less performance for your money too.
And then you got things like Supras and RX7s which TBH i rate (as long as you dont 100% have to have 4wd) better than GTRs.
Not that much lighter than GTRs, about 150kg or so, still heavy cars barring 32GTSTs.
They arnt equally tuneable at all, not at the level most people modify cars, ie stock turbos, more boost, filter, exhaust.
GTRs end up with close to 400bhp or so, GTSTs are a good 100bhp+ down on that at the same level.
Even on the mid level of 500bhp or so there are a LOT less bits that need changing (or in fact, fuck all barring bigger turbos and better fueling. you can use stock GTR manifolds, stock GTR internals, stock GTR intercooler) for that power on a GTR compared to a GTST.
At the ultimate level of tuning when everythnigs changed, there fuck all in it tho really, as a base an RB25 is a good engine still, almost as good as a RB26. The bits bolted on it arnt tho.
Because what you say isnt that true really is it. They share almost no parts, they arnt remotely similar. They about as similar as a XR4i to a 4x4 Saff Cossie.
If you want a RWD car there are lot better cars to get than a GTST IMO.
They more expensive, heavier, dont look, or handle as well as a S14a 200SX, and if we just talking the usual standard turbo bolt on mods, get less performance for your money too.
And then you got things like Supras and RX7s which TBH i rate (as long as you dont 100% have to have 4wd) better than GTRs.
Not that much lighter than GTRs, about 150kg or so, still heavy cars barring 32GTSTs.
They arnt equally tuneable at all, not at the level most people modify cars, ie stock turbos, more boost, filter, exhaust.
GTRs end up with close to 400bhp or so, GTSTs are a good 100bhp+ down on that at the same level.
Even on the mid level of 500bhp or so there are a LOT less bits that need changing (or in fact, fuck all barring bigger turbos and better fueling. you can use stock GTR manifolds, stock GTR internals, stock GTR intercooler) for that power on a GTR compared to a GTST.
At the ultimate level of tuning when everythnigs changed, there fuck all in it tho really, as a base an RB25 is a good engine still, almost as good as a RB26. The bits bolted on it arnt tho.
03-12-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Originally Posted by Spiky
so what are the price's of the following
R32 GTR
R33 GTR
R34 GTR
just a rough figure on the above?
R32 GTR
R33 GTR
R34 GTR
just a rough figure on the above?
R34 GTR's 25-50k
I looked into getting an R34, but after driving an evo for a couple of year's i realised i'd need a pretty decent power 1 to be an upgrade. 400bhp+ due to there weight.
Then to warrent the extra 20k, i figured i might as well go all out 600bhp.
Then you look at the costs involved to own such a car and i bought another Evo.
I love skylines, but only R34 GTR's.
It would be like me buying an Evo 4 when i really want a 6 if i bought any other. But for now, the R34 IMO isn't worth the money it demands. (although economically it must be
) Looks the daddy though!
I think Evos do make alot more sense to be honest though.
03-12-2007, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bigchez
Originally Posted by Porkie
Looks the daddy though!
The previous owner took those pics. Hence the nasty looking houses in the background
03-12-2007, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bigchez
Originally Posted by Porkie
Looks the daddy though!
But, for what i use a car for, country lane blast's etc a 2/3rds the cost 500bhp evo is more realistic.
03-12-2007, 12:40 PM
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i drove a skyline dont know which model it was twin turbo 330 bhp and did drive very nice felt wicked on the road but wouldnt live a 330 hp sapp grunt for grunt absolutely not. skyline was rwd aswell. the only thing that puts me off is 500 kgs heavier and expensive to repair and you need more power to be quicker although a bigger and better engine to start with so i suppose to juning is easier. but theres no disputing there a better driving and handling car.
anyone know what model the 2.5 twin turbo rwd skylines were ?
anyone know what model the 2.5 twin turbo rwd skylines were ?
03-12-2007, 01:49 PM
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love the r34 porkie.
been tempted so many times to buy an r33 gtr but for some reason or another i still havent..........would i sell my m5 and buy one? probably not.
been tempted so many times to buy an r33 gtr but for some reason or another i still havent..........would i sell my m5 and buy one? probably not.
03-12-2007, 01:53 PM
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Be carefull when buying r33GTR's i bought one from a car dealer and later found it was a stolen import and i lost Ł1000's. The police who dealt with my case said there are 53 M plates in this country that are ringers, how he knows that i dont no but beware, it certainly gave me the worst year of my life 
03-12-2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
anyone know what model the 2.5 twin turbo rwd skylines were ?
all RWD turbos were single turbo 2litre or 2.5.
and rarely the 330bhp owners claim, as thats not as easy as on GTRs (well, 330bhp is about standard on them!)
32GTSTs were 2litre single turbo, 33GTSTs were 2.5 single turbo, and 34GTTs were 2.5 single turbo.
500kg heavier? a R32GTST is same weight as a saff, a R32GTR is about same weight as a EscCos, 33s are about 100kg heavier than 32s, and 34s about 100kg heavier again, but not 500kg FFS
03-12-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
anyone know what model the 2.5 twin turbo rwd skylines were ?
GTS is non turbo.
no RWDs came twin turbo, and you cant even bolt the GTR twin turbos to a GTS-T without a load of work as the bolt spacing on the heads are different.
03-12-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
love the r34 porkie.
been tempted so many times to buy an r33 gtr but for some reason or another i still havent..........would i sell my m5 and buy one? probably not.
been tempted so many times to buy an r33 gtr but for some reason or another i still havent..........would i sell my m5 and buy one? probably not.
03-12-2007, 03:05 PM
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i ment 300 kgs
there 1550 kgs saphs are 1250
must of got it wrong on 2 turbos then deffo 2.5 and rwd though.
power to weight say 480 hp saph 384 per ton
600 hp skyline 387 per ton
i asked stu at msd about skylines and he said i would need around 600 hp in a skyline to be as quick as my saph when there both on song grunt for grunt.
a big single turbo rwd skyline would definateley be my second choice of car after a rwd cossie.
i ment 300 kgs
there 1550 kgs saphs are 1250
must of got it wrong on 2 turbos then deffo 2.5 and rwd though.
power to weight say 480 hp saph 384 per ton
600 hp skyline 387 per ton
i asked stu at msd about skylines and he said i would need around 600 hp in a skyline to be as quick as my saph when there both on song grunt for grunt.
a big single turbo rwd skyline would definateley be my second choice of car after a rwd cossie.
03-12-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
anyone know what model the 2.5 twin turbo rwd skylines were ?
all RWD turbos were single turbo 2litre or 2.5.
and rarely the 330bhp owners claim, as thats not as easy as on GTRs (well, 330bhp is about standard on them!)
32GTSTs were 2litre single turbo, 33GTSTs were 2.5 single turbo, and 34GTTs were 2.5 single turbo.
500kg heavier? a R32GTST is same weight as a saff, a R32GTR is about same weight as a EscCos, 33s are about 100kg heavier than 32s, and 34s about 100kg heavier again, but not 500kg FFS
car weights
saph 1250 kgs
1990 skyline gtr 1430 kgs
1995 r33 gt-r 1530 kgs
1998 r34 gt-r 1540 kgs
i cant find the rwd one though
