rssteve

need to replumb my house for CH and water. For ease of use im thinking of using the john guest push fit stuff. I know its not real plumbing, but i am diyer. How longs this stuff been tried and tested for? Is john guest the best to use or is there another to use? Cheers

fish99

just to let you know i have just had an extension built and the new kitchen was plumbed in with that stuff. I came down the stairs at 5am and found that one of the hot water push fitting had come off and hot water had been pumping into my kitchen for some time. The steam and water ruined a brand new kitchen which the builder had to replace.. i mean everything had to be replaced. About 2 months after I was at my computer when i heard a hissing noise... i walked into the kitchen and another push fitting had come off... luckily i saved the kitchen this time but my confidence in those things is dented.. I wish i had done the pipework using copper fittings.. im going to be replacing it soon. Thats just my opinion on them and some people might say they are great. Im not being funny but solder ring copper fittings are simple to use for novices

swerv

if fitted right they are pretty good, got them fitted in mine without probs.

quite expensive as well if your planning to do a big job with it

Eagle

iTrader: (2)

agreed .. i was using this stuff on cold water 10 years ago

focusv8

The only thing wrong with push fit is the idiot that doesn't push it far enough in.

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Turboboy67

As above Steve, its fairly idiot proof

I prefer Hep2o pipe and fittings, I find John Guest stuff not so flexible and the
fittings are not so good/ more expensive (the caps are good though)

I'm coming down to Weymouth before Christmas so could pop round if you want

I've been using it for at least 10 years and it is the future,

especially now copper prices are sky high

Cheers

NEO™ŽŠ

tell me about it just did me downstairs bathroom in copper Ł6.80 something a length

adduk

i fitted my c/h and used copper as i like to see that a good seal has been made, but like said that was before copper prices went sky high,its just that i dont really trust a rubber seal thats heating up and cooling down god knows how may times to last and when one goes all the rest must be aging at the same rate but that is just my view.it cant be that bad as it sells well but copper for me

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i've tried both and find that the copper push fitting fittings fit better than the plastic pipe push fittings fit

adduk

and with plastic you dont get that stupid clicking noise if your copper is abit tight some where.pros and cons to both really

NEO™ŽŠ

nah im talking copper sweated fittings not push type its easy enuff to sweat a joint

rigwrecker

fuck plastic gives no end off problems on ch i swear the push fit fittings draw in air aswell better off with copper i say

Christian and Beccy

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Do it in Copper, I did!!



....and I'm a Salesman, not a Plumber.

Christian and Beccy

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One more!

adduk

Christian and Beccy- looks a decent job ,i fitted mine and im an electrician,copper all the way

dojj

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you can get copper push fit fittings to fit copper pipes which are different to the fittings for the plastic pipes

perhaps they used the wrong fittings?

Turboboy67

Well I've been a plumbing & heating engineer for 22 years

Its called progression, I never use plastic where it will been seen,

Always copper because its more pleasing on the eye.

Plastic fittings will NEVER suck in air if fitted correctly,

So you don't trust joints made with a piece of rubber,

take your boiler apart fella theres lots in there

When I first started lead pipe was everywhere and being replaced
with copper, nowadays its copper being taken over by plastic.

Plastic installed correctly is far superior to copper imo

Cheers

adduk

point taken

Lee Reynolds

agreed and LMFAO @ Not proper plumbing

simon170

I was in the plumbing industry for 5 years before moving to PF, I always used copper. Always thought plastic pushfit was a bit mickey mouse... but each to their own really.

dojj

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pf?
industry?


i have always used copper where there is pressure in the system
but for overflows and stuff, plastic is more than enough and it's easier to route around the beams in the loft too

rstoughy

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Just done an extension and have done that with Hep barrier.

If your going to use plastic go for the best.

RickyLee53

Your obviously not a builder either, you've missed some bits around the window

Looks like a decent job.

My mate did most of his house in plastic and had no problems with it.

As for rubber heating up and cooling down.

There are lots in engines.

turbospud1

and the insulation on the pipes

rigwrecker

well its only heating systems with plastic pipe that our company have ever had problems with loosing pressure so much so we wont take people on contract for central heating breakdown cover if they have plastic pipe