End of an era. Its time for me to say goodbye...
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
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welcome back
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it certainly looks that way.
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Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor
Stu, PLEASE make up your mind ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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we prefered it when you'd gone. pmsl ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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well you are posting,so you are not gone...
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
well you sad you were stepping down,and not be using this place s often etc...iirc. ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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Stu,
I hope you can appreciate that I (and others) feel a large loyalty to you
mainly due to your personality and expertise NOT because you are/were
the admin of this place.
Its this that has brought out the "waffle" and "bollox" as others have
described, sorry if that has caused any offence to you.
[invisible] As your last mod duty, can yoy please change my user name back [/invisible]
I hope you can appreciate that I (and others) feel a large loyalty to you
mainly due to your personality and expertise NOT because you are/were
the admin of this place.
Its this that has brought out the "waffle" and "bollox" as others have
described, sorry if that has caused any offence to you.
[invisible] As your last mod duty, can yoy please change my user name back [/invisible]
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
well you sad you were stepping down,and not be using this place s often etc...iirc. ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor
Stu,
I hope you can appreciate that I (and others) feel a large loyalty to you
mainly due to your personality and expertise NOT because you are/were
the admin of this place.
Its this that has brought out the "waffle" and "bollox" as others have
described, sorry if that has caused any offence to you.
[invisible] As your last mod duty, can yoy please change my user name back [/invisible]
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I hope you can appreciate that I (and others) feel a large loyalty to you
mainly due to your personality and expertise NOT because you are/were
the admin of this place.
Its this that has brought out the "waffle" and "bollox" as others have
described, sorry if that has caused any offence to you.
[invisible] As your last mod duty, can yoy please change my user name back [/invisible]
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So no, i bear no grudges and thank you all for making PF what it is today... something some fool actually wants to PURCHASE!!
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* Amazingly, and this was one of the final straws, i was logging onto my new PS3 to play an online game about 11pm, and i get a private message. It was from some chap off PF complaining i had not read his PM's on Passionford and could i have a look please as its important!!
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That is NOT a joke. Bill Will was sat there with me.I was actually speachless.
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Cheers Stu!!
I havent been here all that long and was most surprised to learn of all your "Ford activities" Between the mag, here, the shop and most importantly the family.... I dont know how you have time to sleep mate!!!
Like I said in one of our recent emails.... Its time to treat the family to a holiday down here in Aust! HAHAH.... and tune my car! I joke!
Cheers mate look forward to continuing my "shopping list" with you!
Gavin
I havent been here all that long and was most surprised to learn of all your "Ford activities" Between the mag, here, the shop and most importantly the family.... I dont know how you have time to sleep mate!!!
Like I said in one of our recent emails.... Its time to treat the family to a holiday down here in Aust! HAHAH.... and tune my car! I joke!
Cheers mate look forward to continuing my "shopping list" with you!
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good luck for the future stu, this place must be a huge drain on your energy i can only begin to imagine how much
See you next year for a set up once my resto is complete
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I won't miss the phone calls to our home landline on a Sunday afternoon moaning about passionford or emails to my work email address at the Hilton asking me if Stu has read his PM's lol
Don't worry guys, if he starts getting under my feet i will soon re-direct him to Passionford
Hats off to you Stu, i know better than anyone the work that you have put into PF for very little gain, it's shows great commitment and dedication, something i am very proud of you for
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Don't worry guys, if he starts getting under my feet i will soon re-direct him to Passionford
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Hats off to you Stu, i know better than anyone the work that you have put into PF for very little gain, it's shows great commitment and dedication, something i am very proud of you for
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Originally Posted by Nicole
I won't miss the phone calls to our home landline on a Sunday afternoon moaning about passionford or emails to my work email address at the Hilton asking me if Stu has read his PM's lol
Don't worry guys, if he starts getting under my feet i will soon re-direct him to Passionford
Hats off to you Stu, i know better than anyone the work that you have put into PF for very little gain, it's shows great commitment and dedication, something i am very proud of you for
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Don't worry guys, if he starts getting under my feet i will soon re-direct him to Passionford
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Hats off to you Stu, i know better than anyone the work that you have put into PF for very little gain, it's shows great commitment and dedication, something i am very proud of you for
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Originally Posted by Nicole
I won't miss the phone calls to our home landline on a Sunday afternoon moaning about passionford or emails to my work email address at the Hilton asking me if Stu has read his PM's lol
Don't worry guys, if he starts getting under my feet i will soon re-direct him to Passionford
Hats off to you Stu, i know better than anyone the work that you have put into PF for very little gain, it's shows great commitment and dedication, something i am very proud of you for
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Don't worry guys, if he starts getting under my feet i will soon re-direct him to Passionford
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Hats off to you Stu, i know better than anyone the work that you have put into PF for very little gain, it's shows great commitment and dedication, something i am very proud of you for
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sounds like your in there stu
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fair play i say, youve done alot around here in the little time ive been here so if its time to hang up your boots its that time..
your not leaving PF for good so its not like were loosing a good member
your not leaving PF for good so its not like were loosing a good member
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Thanks for the kind words everybody.
You know, lifes wierd.. i ended up almost hating this forum and all the grief it caused me, yet, before you know it, no sooner have i called it a day and left moderating this forum behind than ive started another one.
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You know, lifes wierd.. i ended up almost hating this forum and all the grief it caused me, yet, before you know it, no sooner have i called it a day and left moderating this forum behind than ive started another one.
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
..no wonder Stu..you know the internet made your business..FACT..do you really deny that?
The last 10 chips i can think of, top of my head that i supplied on Friday were:
Porshe 996 Turbo
Audi S3 turbo
Vw golf 130Tdi (x2)
Merc E220 CDi
Bmw 335D
Bmw 320D
Audi RS6
vauxhal Vectra 2.2tdi
Saff Cos ALS L8
So yeah, i am still selling cossie chips, and yes, i think the fellas uses PF but i assure you to me Fords are a PASSION not a necessity.
This isnt mentioning my £2K per month advertising campaign either of course. Of which only 1 advert is in a Ford magazine. lol
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Stu mate, you seriously need to STFU
why do you spend time defending and justifying yourself to people who enjoy getting reactions from others, the vast majority such as myself could'nt care less about how much money you make or have made from the Ford scene, the internet or videos of your honeymoon let alone anything else.
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your obviously a clever bloke, but why you get involved with the crap is beyond me sometimes
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why do you spend time defending and justifying yourself to people who enjoy getting reactions from others, the vast majority such as myself could'nt care less about how much money you make or have made from the Ford scene, the internet or videos of your honeymoon let alone anything else.
from the perspective of someone who would actually like to learn something from the talented people on this forum such as yourself and SECS its getting tedious the time wasted in threads such as this
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your obviously a clever bloke, but why you get involved with the crap is beyond me sometimes
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Originally Posted by Turbocabbie
from the perspective of someone who would actually like to learn something from the talented people on this forum such as yourself and SECS its getting tedious the time wasted in threads such as this ![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
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Mental Note: Do not allow bollox like this on my new forum. More tech topics, less bollox.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
So how much gain did you see in the 996 Turbo out of interest, Stu? (he asked for no reason in particular!
LOL)
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Mind you - probably best buy one first! LOL
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Well I haven't been on much over the last week and obviously missed quite an important bit of info I only spotted very early this morning just as I was about to leave work.
Even then it was Dan's thread on whether any profits should be split between Pet & Stu and had to do a trawl in GD to find what was going on ! Can't belive the americans have invaded France now.
Firstly I'm sure we all agree that we hope Pet's wife and kiddie are going to be fine.
Secondly, thanks to you Stu for letting us know what's going on with the site
- even if it could be a backward step imo..we shall see in 2008.
Now, I appreciate and fully understand Stu's initial position on standing down as admin, etc to concentrate on magazine/ business/ married life but don't know much about the man behind the web hosting etc - namely Julien.
Just wondering why he intends to sell the site really. Is it due to his family reasons (again understandable) or for the money aspect? Excuse any ignorance, but I don't know how much websites are worth and even though this is the biggest Ford community website in existence, as said before in the thread: it's not the only one and exclusive: there's loads.
Is the site worth that much to someone else? I don't know, £5000, £15000 ? I really have no idea.
If I had created a site I can't think of many reasons why I'd want to sell it unless I was getting a big benefit from the sale. Does it really generate that much income? How much is the goldmembership & traders fees worth roughly a year? I'm not 100% on how many we have currently of each. Say that was worth £1000 a year (based on 100 goldies @ £10). Take off hosting costs etc, I'd still want a damn sight more than that to sell a site.
And what are the Americans getting (apart from a big site?). The site *possibly seems* to be in a decline over the last month or so. That's how I would view it if I looked back over the last month or so in GD. Have they not read all the threads over the last few weeks trying to improve the general apathy and disharmony among some members to even attempt to better the site by trialing the new phpbb version (for 1 example!) and create a re-newed Ford (BMW/ Audi/ VW/ etc) buzz around the site now the show season is over for another year and many cars are in hibernation.
Is it purely the fact that Julien wants to fully concentrate on his family and wants a quick & easy way out of moving on from PF without many hassles. I don't know what pet's plans and current involvements are? For all I know he may have many websites on the go and this one simply doesn't interest him no more??
I am surprised however that it wasn't offered to Stu initially. Admittedly an American group may have been able to offer more than Stu money wise - but that's not the point after Stu has worked endlessly (imo) on the site and attempting to keep the Ford scene (mainly RS based - granted) growing. Maybe Julien thought as Stu was stepping/ stepped down anyhow that he wouldn't be interested but imo would have been nice to offer.
As for the monetary "rewards" then imo that's purely between Julien and Stu - but needless to say the site would not have ran as it did (good and bad at times) without the work of both of these people. Stu has been a massive part of the success over the last few years and that shouldn't be forgotten -whether that includes any payment or not. I'm sure Stu has gained lots of business from the site. Stu: would you have your magazine features or many bits of trade if it wasn't down to the site bringing your work to people's minds? I'm not saying you're not entitled to use the forum to advertise your business: of course you are & I'm sure you took that into account when setting it up with Julien: but without the advice (freely given on this site iirc
) and help would FF have given you the opportunity to do some writing in the first place? Just a question and observation, not a criticism.
On to the future of PF. Who's gonna be admin firstly? I cannot see it working with US admin controlling a mainly UK based website to the degree we have become accustomed to....unless it is a background server/ update effort only and they are going to rely on mods in the main for the day-to-day running/ editing etc? Who are they going to choose to do moderating? They don't know anyone on PF (unless they've been members for a while) so don't know who would be good or bad or even if existing moderators would like to continue that 'job'.
They don't know the UK scene - which is where most of the site & events on PF are based. Flipping that over - would anyone like to run a US based website and keep it up-to-date ref shows/ events/ in another country but not physically be there to get involved with anything the members are mostly talking about?
Adverts are a step back on the PF we know imo. No-one likes adverts - especially the non-related ones. Current ones are relevant to the forum. Lots of other adverts ruin forums imo and are a quick way for members to become fed-up of it and move on. I realise it is currently like that on other sites, but I'm sure if you gave members the choice they would remove them if they could.
I fear that PF has already evolved over the last few months - maybe not in the right direction and hope that the new owners don't continue with that trend by making loads of forced changes that members don't like. It would be a real shame for PF to continue on a decline and finish after all the work Pet, Stu, Mods and members have put in to make the site something to be proud of.
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Almost Christmas, so let's have some cheeriness back in the site before 2008...then we'll see what happens in the New Yr.
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Firstly I'm sure we all agree that we hope Pet's wife and kiddie are going to be fine.
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Secondly, thanks to you Stu for letting us know what's going on with the site
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Now, I appreciate and fully understand Stu's initial position on standing down as admin, etc to concentrate on magazine/ business/ married life but don't know much about the man behind the web hosting etc - namely Julien.
Just wondering why he intends to sell the site really. Is it due to his family reasons (again understandable) or for the money aspect? Excuse any ignorance, but I don't know how much websites are worth and even though this is the biggest Ford community website in existence, as said before in the thread: it's not the only one and exclusive: there's loads.
Is the site worth that much to someone else? I don't know, £5000, £15000 ? I really have no idea.
If I had created a site I can't think of many reasons why I'd want to sell it unless I was getting a big benefit from the sale. Does it really generate that much income? How much is the goldmembership & traders fees worth roughly a year? I'm not 100% on how many we have currently of each. Say that was worth £1000 a year (based on 100 goldies @ £10). Take off hosting costs etc, I'd still want a damn sight more than that to sell a site.
And what are the Americans getting (apart from a big site?). The site *possibly seems* to be in a decline over the last month or so. That's how I would view it if I looked back over the last month or so in GD. Have they not read all the threads over the last few weeks trying to improve the general apathy and disharmony among some members to even attempt to better the site by trialing the new phpbb version (for 1 example!) and create a re-newed Ford (BMW/ Audi/ VW/ etc) buzz around the site now the show season is over for another year and many cars are in hibernation.
Is it purely the fact that Julien wants to fully concentrate on his family and wants a quick & easy way out of moving on from PF without many hassles. I don't know what pet's plans and current involvements are? For all I know he may have many websites on the go and this one simply doesn't interest him no more??
I am surprised however that it wasn't offered to Stu initially. Admittedly an American group may have been able to offer more than Stu money wise - but that's not the point after Stu has worked endlessly (imo) on the site and attempting to keep the Ford scene (mainly RS based - granted) growing. Maybe Julien thought as Stu was stepping/ stepped down anyhow that he wouldn't be interested but imo would have been nice to offer.
As for the monetary "rewards" then imo that's purely between Julien and Stu - but needless to say the site would not have ran as it did (good and bad at times) without the work of both of these people. Stu has been a massive part of the success over the last few years and that shouldn't be forgotten -whether that includes any payment or not. I'm sure Stu has gained lots of business from the site. Stu: would you have your magazine features or many bits of trade if it wasn't down to the site bringing your work to people's minds? I'm not saying you're not entitled to use the forum to advertise your business: of course you are & I'm sure you took that into account when setting it up with Julien: but without the advice (freely given on this site iirc
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On to the future of PF. Who's gonna be admin firstly? I cannot see it working with US admin controlling a mainly UK based website to the degree we have become accustomed to....unless it is a background server/ update effort only and they are going to rely on mods in the main for the day-to-day running/ editing etc? Who are they going to choose to do moderating? They don't know anyone on PF (unless they've been members for a while) so don't know who would be good or bad or even if existing moderators would like to continue that 'job'.
They don't know the UK scene - which is where most of the site & events on PF are based. Flipping that over - would anyone like to run a US based website and keep it up-to-date ref shows/ events/ in another country but not physically be there to get involved with anything the members are mostly talking about?
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Adverts are a step back on the PF we know imo. No-one likes adverts - especially the non-related ones. Current ones are relevant to the forum. Lots of other adverts ruin forums imo and are a quick way for members to become fed-up of it and move on. I realise it is currently like that on other sites, but I'm sure if you gave members the choice they would remove them if they could.
I fear that PF has already evolved over the last few months - maybe not in the right direction and hope that the new owners don't continue with that trend by making loads of forced changes that members don't like. It would be a real shame for PF to continue on a decline and finish after all the work Pet, Stu, Mods and members have put in to make the site something to be proud of.
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Almost Christmas, so let's have some cheeriness back in the site before 2008...then we'll see what happens in the New Yr.
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Good luck with everything Stu, not suprised you are standing down some people just dont understand this is only the internet not real life
Good luck in your new venture
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