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Old 19-11-2007, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
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Didn’t think it would be cheap mate...

I quite like the look of a normal breather system...fook paying 750 for something you cant even see
I paid to have my separator powder coated Green as well as it was PINK when i got the car would like to know if there are any real benefits other than hiding it away before i make any decisions


Originally Posted by NEEDFORSPEED
once these are made and sent out we need someone to make up a list and sizes of the aeroquip that will be needed too to make it easier for everyone
Maybe if you ask mike real nice he may tell you But that is if he knows because iirc he said he never fitted so he may not know anyway
Old 19-11-2007, 08:43 PM
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Its a atmospheric vent IIRC Mike had a pipe running under the car
Old 19-11-2007, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NEIL A


Does the top outlet just go to a catch tank?
thats some motor! any specs?
Old 19-11-2007, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kjc300
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
wont be any change from 600 quid IMO.
Ł750 from Harvey iirc thats why i ante got one yet

Unbelievable for a bit of aluminium!!!
think thats for the Tank, aero quip, quip Heat shields, and fitting ALSO i could be talking Total Bollocks so please dont quote me i did say iirc and i may be wrong
Old 19-11-2007, 08:47 PM
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The aero will be dearer than the tank I bet
Old 19-11-2007, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Its a atmospheric vent IIRC Mike had a pipe running under the car
yeah i think that was one of the plus points not having to have a catch tank
Old 19-11-2007, 08:49 PM
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Actually I'm having another fitting flash back I think you actually need to tap into the block to mount it aswell Harvey would obviously take care of that aswell, so its probably not that far off
Old 19-11-2007, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NEEDFORSPEED
Originally Posted by NEIL A


Does the top outlet just go to a catch tank?
thats some motor! any specs?
It was a pic Ian put up before so dont know the spec. Looks to be a mountune wrc block with a mag sump for 8" front diff.
Old 19-11-2007, 08:51 PM
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even Ł300 for the tank is fookin steep for what it is - If only we knew what was in it!!!
Old 19-11-2007, 08:54 PM
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Plus you could use cheaper zinc fittings as you can't see em!!!
Old 19-11-2007, 08:55 PM
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buy one and Chop it in half
Old 19-11-2007, 09:00 PM
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a tig welder some ally and a bit of practise look how much money there is to be made!you could make it your full time job! il try and get some 'inside' shots. tho hel prob ask mike r for some pics lol
Old 19-11-2007, 09:01 PM
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Think there are just directional plates inside to help direct/seperate the oil mist to the correct places...
Old 19-11-2007, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Cosworth Rallyesport Are you Tim Finch?

I remember seeing one of these on ebay for sale buy TF Rally spares "think thats the Ebay name" anyway it went for arround Ł200 and missed it due to forgetting about it wasnt till a day or so later i went on ebay and see i missed it
yes,ive sold loads of these on ebay,think jon@work got the last one,they normally make around Ł150 second hand,original mountune group A breathers.but Ł300 seems crazy to me.
Old 19-11-2007, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
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Cosworth Rallyesport Are you Tim Finch?

I remember seeing one of these on ebay for sale buy TF Rally spares "think thats the Ebay name" anyway it went for arround Ł200 and missed it due to forgetting about it wasnt till a day or so later i went on ebay and see i missed it
yes,ive sold loads of these on ebay,think jon@work got the last one,they normally make around Ł150 second hand,original mountune group A breathers.but Ł300 seems crazy to me.
No I bought one off you just before you listed it on ebay (for Ł160), then later that week you listed a different one on ebay that went for about Ł250. I still feel a bit guilty about that, but another friend of mine bought one off you at a show for Ł120, so I don't feel that bad.
Old 19-11-2007, 11:10 PM
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i may have a few of these in the next few weeks for sale as well,
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Cosworth Rallyesport you have PM
Old 19-11-2007, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Cosworth Rallyesport you have PM

What about???
Old 19-11-2007, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kjc300
Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
Cosworth Rallyesport you have PM

What about???
Confessing his love and admiration for Cosworth enthusiasts that work on the Railway, sorry Tim but you are aware that Gatecrasher is gay arnt you??


actually, thinking - shit that includes me (must delete all PM's from Gatecrasher without reading them)
Old 19-11-2007, 11:59 PM
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Dont flatter your self Kelv your to soft

kjc300 i wasnt sure if Cosworth Rallyesport was Tim Finch now he said it is i had summin i wanted to ask that ok no kelv you pervert no love confesions only Cosworth/engine/Parts talk
Old 20-11-2007, 12:32 PM
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280 delivered hopefully be ready in 10 days anyone that wants one pm me please and anyone that wants to pay by paypal + fees please
Old 20-11-2007, 12:56 PM
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The reason that it looks the same as mine, is because it IS a picture of mine that has been used .

Hopefully, they will be the same internally, otherwise you're wasting your money .

The Ł750 price from Harvey includes all the Goodridge hose AND fitting (as long as your engine is stripped down ready for a rebuild), which requires the sump being modified, as it has more ports than normal for the returns / drain.

The breather can already be purchased through me with everything you see in the pictures below as a supply only for Ł600 + delivery

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Old 20-11-2007, 01:04 PM
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Mike do you have to tap into the block to mount it? and is the dip stcik mod just a bend?
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Mike do you have to tap into the block to mount it? and is the dip stcik mod just a bend?
It wasn't that you had to tap into the block, the original ones have a larger size male fitting where it fits into the block, so the block had to be machined for this. However, depending on power level and application, the breathers can be made in standard size or the larger type (which requires the machining).

If you note, mine has been further modified (hence how I recognised the pictures ). Spot the difference?
Old 20-11-2007, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
The reason that it looks the same as mine, is because it IS a picture of mine that has been used .

Hopefully, they will be the same internally, otherwise you're wasting your money .

The Ł750 price from Harvey includes all the Goodridge hose AND fitting (as long as your engine is stripped down ready for a rebuild), which requires the sump being modified, as it has more ports than normal for the returns / drain.

The breather can already be purchased through me with everything you see in the pictures below as a supply only for Ł600 + delivery






is this breather neeeded for a cossie running 360-370 ish bhp i.e mine??what would the benefits be as mine seems to be workin i have no return going into the sump tho just into the block above the sump
Old 20-11-2007, 01:19 PM
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Mike its the two brackets that I have pointed out that I wanted to know where they bolt to
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Old 20-11-2007, 01:23 PM
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Mechanic28,
The way you have yours set up is fine for a road car, but on track where excessive crank case pressure can build up, your oil won't be able to return from the breather tank back into the sump (until the engine is shut down). This is why the correct application is to put the drain to below oil level in the sump, so that there is no pressure stopping the oil from returning.

Your existing breather can be modified to do this, and is exactly what I had on my old engine - just a Bailey three port set-up, but draining to the sump and breathing from the existing flame trap area and the port that you currenty use as a return .
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Paul,
Yes you are correct about the drilling and tapping of the lower one, the top one uses an inlet manifold bolt .
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Cool what was the other mod I couldn't tell Something dipstick related?
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Cool what was the other mod I couldn't tell Something dipstick related?
Classified, but you'll find out when you try and fit a copy .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Mechanic28,
The way you have yours set up is fine for a road car, but on track where excessive crank case pressure can build up, your oil won't be able to return from the breather tank back into the sump (until the engine is shut down). This is why the correct application is to put the drain to below oil level in the sump, so that there is no pressure stopping the oil from returning.

Your existing breather can be modified to do this, and is exactly what I had on my old engine - just a Bailey three port set-up, but draining to the sump and breathing from the existing flame trap area and the port that you currenty use as a return .
cool cheers for do info
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Paul,
Forgot to say, if you want a proper one, they are only Ł320 + del for just the tank anyway .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Paul,
Forgot to say, if you want a proper one, they are only Ł320 + del for just the tank anyway .
How much if we buy six from you?
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Also, as a side note, is that not going to make taking the inlet off a pain in the ass??
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Paul,
Ł307.50 + del if six were ordered (modified to suit road car application as well) .
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hmmm

might prove easier to do this than fit my GGR setup as im after the standard look

i've just got an aeroquip shipment coming over from the US aswell, doh

what does it use? -10 or -12?
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Mechanic28,
The way you have yours set up is fine for a road car, but on track where excessive crank case pressure can build up, your oil won't be able to return from the breather tank back into the sump (until the engine is shut down). This is why the correct application is to put the drain to below oil level in the sump, so that there is no pressure stopping the oil from returning.

Your existing breather can be modified to do this, and is exactly what I had on my old engine - just a Bailey three port set-up, but draining to the sump and breathing from the existing flame trap area and the port that you currenty use as a return .
i disagree with you mike oil should be returned above oil level .
with an adequately designed breather system there is no pressure in the crank case mike, however there will be a return flow issue if you return it below oil level. I feel 10 pages of arguing coming on i mean discussion with you mike lol

Before you start your argument mike I mean discussion get yourself a bucket a funnel and some pipe fit said pipe to funnel ,fill bucket half full insert pipe into said bucket below the level ,fill said funnel and time it to empty, repeat the process but this time lift the pipe above the fluid level say 1 inch report back with results
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No arguement, we will just have to agree to disagree, as the WRC set-up and all the Cosworth race-cars I have seen go to below oil level. You use your way and I'll stick with the right way .
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I have edited my above reply
I am right you are wrong I don't care that the wrc cars were like this the motorsport 909 sumps were designed below oil level too they didn't work and the port was blanked off in favour of above oil level return.
Mike pressure is pressure if your crankcase is pressurised that pressure will be acting on the oil too so it is worse to return below oil level next you will be modifying your turbo oil return to return below oil level too
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Someone asked earlier, yes they do need a catch tank, usually under the wing.....the 22mm silicone hose goes from the top of the tank to the catch tank, on a standard sump, we weld a boss onto the front, -8 return to beneath the oil level on the back of the engine....

The lower M4 bolt is usually bored on the block, so just need a tap running down it, some of the proper ones had a 22mm tube into the block as opposed to the standard 19mm hole.....so be careful with second hand breathers on standard engines....

They are the only neat solution to the breather on the YB, personally I hate blingy breathers....lol


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