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29-10-2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
At least he doesnt come on here blagging false figures and blagging pod results like some.
He keeps himself to himself and doeas his own thing.
Just my view.
He keeps himself to himself and doeas his own thing.
Just my view.
Dunno, he seems to say it to everyone else then they come on here and say it, same thing
dont get me wrong, I love the concept, and wish it did work, but its been years and years and still no results.
I remember you telling me
29-10-2007, 05:26 PM
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I nearly did!!
Called him outside the garage to sort it out properly, and out he walks with a piston in his hand..................
So quietly told he'd need fucking more than that, the prick bottled it!
He took a few K off me also, and fucked a brand new pace Rad (then tried to claim I owed him Ł600 fucking quid - Told him that he could fucking shove it 
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Last I heard his garage in Welwyn burnt down and he's down south claiming to be a renault tuner!
Called him outside the garage to sort it out properly, and out he walks with a piston in his hand..................
So quietly told he'd need fucking more than that, the prick bottled it!
He took a few K off me also, and fucked a brand new pace Rad (then tried to claim I owed him Ł600 fucking quid - Told him that he could fucking shove it ).Last I heard his garage in Welwyn burnt down and he's down south claiming to be a renault tuner!
29-10-2007, 05:26 PM
#44
Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Originally Posted by Yeti Racing
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
The most overhyped and underdelivered car ever in the ford scene to date IMHO
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29-10-2007, 06:29 PM
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he#s got a graph for 521 and a bit brake which is good for the figures he's talking about
the controversy stems from his claims that the plenum is good enough for the power you want to make where as everyone else claims that the limit is around the 280 bhp mark, these power limitation claims were then verified by someone else and the story has developed from there
recently geoff kershaw (of turbo technics fame) produced a 500 bhp 24V twin turbo engine to put into his scorpio estate and i noticed that these "280 brake max power from that plenum" claims suddenly stopped being claimed
i think this fairly well vidicates fitz's original claims about the power output he was getting using that inlet
as for the car, built from the shell upwards from a cossie he found in a shed that had been parked up for years and years and took the best part of 18 months to build the bits and bobs for so the work gone into it has been fairly extreme in regards to time and effort
and he wants the car to be used and abused as a proper road car, not some stripped out racer that gives you ear ache on the way to and from a track day or get trailered everywhere, that's just not him, it's the showpeice for his company and i think it does him proud
and no, he doesn't come onto forums to big himself up, nor does he bother reading them either, if you like what you see then fair enough, if you don't then you don't, he's not bilt his car for you to judge, he's built it for himself to have a blast in and show what he can do, and you can't really knock him for that
i have to add that my car is getting the same engine all be it with slightly smaller turbos and a normal inlet, but it's plenty for me, i couldn't afford to run the last one and that only had 12 valves
the controversy stems from his claims that the plenum is good enough for the power you want to make where as everyone else claims that the limit is around the 280 bhp mark, these power limitation claims were then verified by someone else and the story has developed from there
recently geoff kershaw (of turbo technics fame) produced a 500 bhp 24V twin turbo engine to put into his scorpio estate and i noticed that these "280 brake max power from that plenum" claims suddenly stopped being claimed
i think this fairly well vidicates fitz's original claims about the power output he was getting using that inlet
as for the car, built from the shell upwards from a cossie he found in a shed that had been parked up for years and years and took the best part of 18 months to build the bits and bobs for so the work gone into it has been fairly extreme in regards to time and effort
and he wants the car to be used and abused as a proper road car, not some stripped out racer that gives you ear ache on the way to and from a track day or get trailered everywhere, that's just not him, it's the showpeice for his company and i think it does him proud
and no, he doesn't come onto forums to big himself up, nor does he bother reading them either, if you like what you see then fair enough, if you don't then you don't, he's not bilt his car for you to judge, he's built it for himself to have a blast in and show what he can do, and you can't really knock him for that
i have to add that my car is getting the same engine all be it with slightly smaller turbos and a normal inlet, but it's plenty for me, i couldn't afford to run the last one and that only had 12 valves
29-10-2007, 06:36 PM
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What ARE you talking about Dojj?
The ONLY things people have said about is the fact the car is meant to be pushing 500bhp+ but does times about as good as your average Stg3 Cossie.
And the fact the powerband is WORSE than your average 500bhp Cossie one, even though its over 3litres now.
ANYONE who thinks in turbo form that inlet (if you mean the standard one) is only good for 280bhp is a SPASTIC seeing as its good for well over 200 even in n/a form
Ive never heard that comment here, so I presume thats got said in some mongy XR4 forum? Stupid stupid retard comment, but not what people slate the car for.
Fact is the car looks AWESOME IMO, and has a mega cool if seemingly underperforming engine too.
TBH Fitz never seems to big the car up, only thing he ever says is proven, and thats the power.
Its all the XR bummers that make him look bad by saying its the bestest thing ever made ever.
The ONLY things people have said about is the fact the car is meant to be pushing 500bhp+ but does times about as good as your average Stg3 Cossie.
And the fact the powerband is WORSE than your average 500bhp Cossie one, even though its over 3litres now.
ANYONE who thinks in turbo form that inlet (if you mean the standard one) is only good for 280bhp is a SPASTIC seeing as its good for well over 200 even in n/a form
Ive never heard that comment here, so I presume thats got said in some mongy XR4 forum? Stupid stupid retard comment, but not what people slate the car for.
Fact is the car looks AWESOME IMO, and has a mega cool if seemingly underperforming engine too.
TBH Fitz never seems to big the car up, only thing he ever says is proven, and thats the power.
Its all the XR bummers that make him look bad by saying its the bestest thing ever made ever.
29-10-2007, 07:18 PM
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again, i'm stunned that i actually agree with steve on a subject
as far as i am aware, the only time he's actually had it timed was when he had a dick diff and didn't punt it up the 1/4
good job too as it broke about 30 miles after he'd left brunters
he's had his haters, i know he's had a few deals that have gone way past just going south and he's also got a reputation as a bit of a shady character, but i've known him for 7 years now and he's always been straight with me and has never once said what the car can or can't do
and i've seen him wring the absolute bollocks out of that engine, take corners he should't really be taking at speeds that confused the shit out of me
the car does what it's supposed to do, and that is get from a to b in a hurry, and i don't think he's claimed anything else other than it's got a 150 mph+ top end
as far as i am aware, the only time he's actually had it timed was when he had a dick diff and didn't punt it up the 1/4
good job too as it broke about 30 miles after he'd left brunters
he's had his haters, i know he's had a few deals that have gone way past just going south and he's also got a reputation as a bit of a shady character, but i've known him for 7 years now and he's always been straight with me and has never once said what the car can or can't do
and i've seen him wring the absolute bollocks out of that engine, take corners he should't really be taking at speeds that confused the shit out of me
the car does what it's supposed to do, and that is get from a to b in a hurry, and i don't think he's claimed anything else other than it's got a 150 mph+ top end
29-10-2007, 07:32 PM
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I for one love Fitz's car. It looks the nuts, has loads of cool details, and it does everything he wants it to.
So it's not as fast as a massive power stripped out racer, and it can't do 200mph... So what?
It does exactly what Fitz wants it to, and as it's his car that he built for himself, what does it matter.
There's more to life than trying to scrape a fraction of second off a quarter mile or lap time.
If he's happier pimping around on 19" rims with his music blaring and generally enjoying it as a road car, thats his choice.
I reckon it's an awesome car
So it's not as fast as a massive power stripped out racer, and it can't do 200mph... So what?
It does exactly what Fitz wants it to, and as it's his car that he built for himself, what does it matter.
There's more to life than trying to scrape a fraction of second off a quarter mile or lap time.
If he's happier pimping around on 19" rims with his music blaring and generally enjoying it as a road car, thats his choice.
I reckon it's an awesome car
29-10-2007, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nash
dojj Out of interest when the Fuck is your car going to be ready? I mean how long does it take to build an engine? or are you saving to get the whole car package and doing it all in one go?
29-10-2007, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nash
dojj Out of interest when the Fuck is your car going to be ready? I mean how long does it take to build an engine? or are you saving to get the whole car package and doing it all in one go?
but only to get mapped
then it's going back to the paint shop as it's got a bit of a dent in it's side
should be a good chrimbo pressie for me but the only problem then is afforidg to get it insured
same car as in the sig, let me find the link i've got of it
29-10-2007, 09:24 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7icvKFIv2uw
volume up please, mainly for the engine, but there are some other sound effects as well that are difficult to explain
volume up please, mainly for the engine, but there are some other sound effects as well that are difficult to explain
29-10-2007, 09:31 PM
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i dont know if i like it or not... what he has done is a good idea on paper, i just think he has tried to stick by it too much... rather than hold his hands up and say it wasn't the best idea... did he not take it to nms to be tuned? and it wouldnt make the figured he wanted?
29-10-2007, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PF NICK
I for one love Fitz's car. It looks the nuts, has loads of cool details, and it does everything he wants it to.
So it's not as fast as a massive power stripped out racer, and it can't do 200mph... So what?
It does exactly what Fitz wants it to, and as it's his car that he built for himself, what does it matter.
There's more to life than trying to scrape a fraction of second off a quarter mile or lap time.
If he's happier pimping around on 19" rims with his music blaring and generally enjoying it as a road car, thats his choice.
I reckon it's an awesome car
So it's not as fast as a massive power stripped out racer, and it can't do 200mph... So what?
It does exactly what Fitz wants it to, and as it's his car that he built for himself, what does it matter.
There's more to life than trying to scrape a fraction of second off a quarter mile or lap time.
If he's happier pimping around on 19" rims with his music blaring and generally enjoying it as a road car, thats his choice.
I reckon it's an awesome car
Top words.
At last, someone who has has REAL experience with the car, rather than guessers based on a couple of bad runs at Pod.
Mr P is happy with his car and drives it every day and doesnt give a toss about people happy to slate a car they know nothing about.
29-10-2007, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by col cos1
ive had an xr4x4 twin turbo(225bhp)
and 24v converted xr4x4(200bhp)
both were fairly quick,and i always thought that twin turboing a 24v with 2 t34s would be rapid
obviously not..........................bet its got some torque mind
and 24v converted xr4x4(200bhp)
both were fairly quick,and i always thought that twin turboing a 24v with 2 t34s would be rapid
obviously not..........................bet its got some torque mind
)....running stupidly high boost. The diffs and gearbox are standard rwd cossie items.The engine doesnt have (apart from cams and plenum) anything other than modified std components like machined pistons and a ported head.....I havent seen Fitz or been to TopBoss since working there so spec may have changed since then but I doubt it.
However you can't deny its a fucking sexy car to look at.....them brakes (hi spec monster calipers) and disks look bloody huge behind them wheels...And being a passenger in it was bloody scary, its quite fast when its all running right and nothings breaking/broken.
Still don't regret working there...was an experience to say the least.
Dan
29-10-2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PT
Originally Posted by Nash
dojj Out of interest when the Fuck is your car going to be ready? I mean how long does it take to build an engine? or are you saving to get the whole car package and doing it all in one go?
29-10-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Its all the XR bummers that make him look bad by saying its the bestest thing ever made ever.
29-10-2007, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
i have to add that my car is getting the same engine all be it with slightly smaller turbos and a normal inlet, but it's plenty for me,
My car can be seen at about the 47 second mark in the background
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7icvKFIv2uw
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29-10-2007, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
Originally Posted by PT
Originally Posted by Nash
dojj Out of interest when the Fuck is your car going to be ready? I mean how long does it take to build an engine? or are you saving to get the whole car package and doing it all in one go?
I was up for it for about a week but couldnt find a loom. Its to cold now
29-10-2007, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
Originally Posted by PF NICK
I for one love Fitz's car. It looks the nuts, has loads of cool details, and it does everything he wants it to.
So it's not as fast as a massive power stripped out racer, and it can't do 200mph... So what?
It does exactly what Fitz wants it to, and as it's his car that he built for himself, what does it matter.
There's more to life than trying to scrape a fraction of second off a quarter mile or lap time.
If he's happier pimping around on 19" rims with his music blaring and generally enjoying it as a road car, thats his choice.
I reckon it's an awesome car
So it's not as fast as a massive power stripped out racer, and it can't do 200mph... So what?
It does exactly what Fitz wants it to, and as it's his car that he built for himself, what does it matter.
There's more to life than trying to scrape a fraction of second off a quarter mile or lap time.
If he's happier pimping around on 19" rims with his music blaring and generally enjoying it as a road car, thats his choice.
I reckon it's an awesome car
Top words.
At last, someone who has has REAL experience with the car, rather than guessers based on a couple of bad runs at Pod.
Mr P is happy with his car and drives it every day and doesnt give a toss about people happy to slate a car they know nothing about.
well said lads, it might not be the quickest thing on earth, but ithink if he wanted it to be then he wouldent of put a huge system in the car and 19's on it. the guy hs built something that is different, not the usual cossie on comps, or racelines, or azevs, not the same old stuff.
fair play to the fella ithink the car looks spot on!!
30-10-2007, 08:01 AM
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he's got 18's on it not 19's
and i sourced the brakes for him as he's got 360 x 36mm wide discs on the front with hi spec mega monster 6 calipers and 330 x 32's with monster 4's on the rear plus a seperate handbrake caliper
and all his brackets and bells have been made by someone he knows so they are one off's as far as i'm aware (until i get my stoppers put on as well )
and i sourced the brakes for him as he's got 360 x 36mm wide discs on the front with hi spec mega monster 6 calipers and 330 x 32's with monster 4's on the rear plus a seperate handbrake caliper
and all his brackets and bells have been made by someone he knows so they are one off's as far as i'm aware (until i get my stoppers put on as well
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30-10-2007, 09:34 AM
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The spec is differant now, Brand New BOB block, differant pistons, bob cams with a odd timing.
the biggest shitter on that car is the wolf managment its poo
the biggest shitter on that car is the wolf managment its poo
30-10-2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Its all the XR bummers that make him look bad by saying its the bestest thing ever made ever.
Awesome looking car but this twin turbo cossie V6 hyper car stuff is getting a bit long in the tooth now.
30-10-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MWF
Originally Posted by SapphyMike
It is the only 3 door cossie i would own.
i generally hate the look of 3 doors.