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Old 21-10-2007 | 09:06 PM
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On BBC news

Reported tha BMW are under investigation for fuel irregularities

They may lose their 2 places

Hamilton will then move up 2 places

Score more points

Win F1 championship
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:08 PM
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errr no he wont
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:08 PM
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Old 21-10-2007 | 09:11 PM
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If hamilton gets awarded the title because of that i'll show my arse
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aduz

errr no he wont
why not ?

If 5th and 6th get excluded then Hamilton will be declared 5th

5th = F1 champion

1. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari one hour 28 minutes 15.270 seconds
2. Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari 1.493 secs behind
3. Fernando Alonso (Spa) McLaren-Mercedes +57.019
4. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams-Toyota + 1:02.848
5. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber +1:10.957
6. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber +1:11.317
7. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren-Mercedes one lap behind
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:18 PM
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As he finished 1 lap down and thus could not complete the race does that not mean it doesnt matter anyway??
As Martin Brundle said as Kimi crossed the finish line "they could all crash now and it wouldnt matter"

Old 21-10-2007 | 09:22 PM
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Good point by Ste but I don't think it would work like that, and anyway, you got a link to this shit?
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:28 PM
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How desperate? They steal from Ferrari, try and breed a Schumaker clone... if only they had made a Jean Todt... anyone mention tyres
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:29 PM
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lewis should go home and sulk
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieSaff
Good point by Ste but I don't think it would work like that, and anyway, you got a link to this shit?
Its on a rolling ticker on the BBC sports page. The like goes to the main Kimi Story.
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:35 PM
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Its more likely that BMW & Williams will loose their constructors points.
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They just said it on the news
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:37 PM
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Just been on ITV news that BMW & WILLIAMS have been summend to the FIA on fuel irregularites, if guilty Hamilton will be given 4th place and the championship
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:40 PM
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Its all a load of bollocks anyway, the whole F1 malarkey
Old 21-10-2007 | 09:46 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7055644.stm

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Old 21-10-2007 | 09:48 PM
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there is hope for the boy yet, it wont be how Lewis wanted it but will take it, what a drive for a rookie season
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Old 21-10-2007 | 10:12 PM
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I can see them removing the points for BMW and Williams but the drivers will be allowed to keep there points. After all its similar to what the Mclaren drivers have had all season, a unfair advantage and those cunts still kept there points.
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How he got off with destroying Raikkonen's qualy lap plus getting 2 sets of wets to make sure he knew the track dry or wet is beyond me. One rule.... Ron Dennis must have sunk plenty into his.....scholarship
Old 21-10-2007 | 10:29 PM
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You have to put your hands up to Kimi Raikkonen he is World Champion fair play to ferrari considering on how many problems they had at the start of the season and fcuk ups they made, what an amazing come back and don't foget Mclarens are cheats as well. Ferrari do deserve to be Champions
Old 22-10-2007 | 04:17 AM
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..no penalty...........Kimi wins...............
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maclaren to appeal
Old 22-10-2007 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by american
props to hamilton....shame that his car will bear the number 21 or 22 on its nose next year.

and a big "numbro uno" on the nose of the 'rari, awarded last week.
posted Oct. 01, 2007 9:30pm


-wonder if alonso will get the "22"?
Old 22-10-2007 | 05:25 AM
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i can't see the link, but it was on the news this morning that they would not suffer any penalties for chilling their fuel

i'm assuming this is what the link is also reporting yes?

and pretty high and mighty for maclaren to complain about "cheating"
Old 22-10-2007 | 07:06 AM
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ron backed the wrong boy in loser lewis - kimi did not win the championship, lewis lost it by being a greedy, arrogant, immature young man
Old 22-10-2007 | 07:10 AM
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FIA said no penalty, McLaren are appealing, but if they REALLY think that other teams drivers can be penalised for cheating, when their own did not, then Ferrari deserve both titles even more than they already do
Old 22-10-2007 | 07:17 AM
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now i like lewis but ffs ron get a fooking life.im sick of him trying to find some reason to claim it back when he loses.im a ferrari fan and a massa fan but im not fussed ny kimi winning as long as it werent that helmet alonso.

ron needs to grow up and learn sportsmanship if you ask me.
Old 22-10-2007 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
lewis should go home and sulk
I'm pretty sure he won't be sulking for only coming second in his first year.
Old 22-10-2007 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
ron backed the wrong boy in loser lewis - kimi did not win the championship, lewis lost it by being a greedy, arrogant, immature young man
Clearly he didn't back the wrong person, if his supposed novice number 2 driver to Alonso has the greatest season of any rookie driver ever!

Mansell got this same bad press from some when he was winning races and not titles. What is it about Brits that want to knock people who achieve?
Old 22-10-2007 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Graham S1
Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
lewis should go home and sulk
I'm pretty sure he won't be sulking for only coming second in his first year.
ohhhh conterversy from graham AND carl



lewis got put in his place good and proper, and, hopefully, this will make him a better person
being the best loser doesn't make up for not winning what everyone thought was a pretty much "go there and rive sensibly" race with the title there for the losing

as a famous saying once said "he snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"
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I dont think that mclaren will have the no. 21 and 22. i think its based on he DRIVERS standings no?
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Originally Posted by dojj

as a famous saying once said "he snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"
once said? surely it happens everytime England plays anything? Like three times in the last week.
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
ron backed the wrong boy in loser lewis - kimi did not win the championship, lewis lost it by being a greedy, arrogant, immature young man
Unusually harsh, Nick.... From where I was sat, he lost it from a bad pit decision last week when he was left on poor tyres, and from an unreliable car this week when it left him with no gears for 40 seconds!

I think the boy has done very well, and can hold his head up. I think that the emotions both for and against are somewhat disproportionate, but that is what ultra high level sportsman do - engage emotion.

For what it is worth, I think Kimi should keep the title, as it would be a daft way to lose it! As stated, had BMW not broken the rules there would have been no confired disadvantage.

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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
ron backed the wrong boy in loser lewis - kimi did not win the championship, lewis lost it by being a greedy, arrogant, immature young man
He is a racer, he wants to win, thats what racers do.

FAR more interesting than some tactician who holds back on a race to win a championship.

Im sure an element of that will pass with age, but personally I think its a great trait for a racing driver to have, and if it wasnt for that hunger to win now matter what the cost (even to himself) he probably wouldnt have got to where he is today in the first place.
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What an awesome driver.

Dropped back to 22md and pulled back all the places with 3 pit stops!!!

Every credit to him, He WILL win next year without a doubt.
Old 22-10-2007 | 09:19 AM
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In 1995, the Benetton-Renault of Michael Schumacher and the Williams-Renault of David Coulthard were initially disqualified from first and second in Brazil because their fuel did not conform to samples approved by the FIA.

But a week later the FIA, who said no advantage had been gained, reinstated the drivers' points, preferring instead to dock points from their teams.

This whole incident does not improve F 1:s credibility. If FIA decides to act otherwise, it would NOT be fair. AND if teams gain advace not deserved, should Mc Laren also drivers lose their points from spying business?
Old 22-10-2007 | 09:27 AM
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They wont do anything that changes the drivers championship now IMHO

Too much to lose politically if they do that.
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I REALLY hope McLaren do NOT appeal against the BMW fuel technicality, I firmly believe that Lewis would not want to win the title due to some court room battle.
As much as I wanted him to win it, if he was given it this way, you would NEVER hear the end of it!
It just makes them look desperate and shows sour grapes I think.
Let sleeping dogs lie, and come back next year to do it properly.

BUT, on the other hand, if BMW were found to be cheating, then they should be penalised like everyone else has been through out the year


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