FAO MikeR- Flamer kit wires- what to where? UPDATE! Mike!
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Yeahyeah, they gay, but ive just had a hunt around the house and found FOUR, yes FOUR of them
1st one is a MikeR original that I had on my Cossie, it has 4 wires.
White, Brown, Yellow, Blue.
What goes where?
Others have 5 wires tho and are all brand new, fuck knows about them, anyone know? Im guessing they them gay ones that cut the ignition or summat?
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1st one is a MikeR original that I had on my Cossie, it has 4 wires.
White, Brown, Yellow, Blue.
What goes where?
Others have 5 wires tho and are all brand new, fuck knows about them, anyone know? Im guessing they them gay ones that cut the ignition or summat?
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Originally Posted by Dan
Fuck knows where they go but I might have one off ya!
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And on that note, its NOT going on the Chaser, honest
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And frankly its far lower on the gay scale than the other thing I got for it the other day that I dont care to mention either
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Anyhow, MikeR etc- what wire goes where?!
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one of the kits is a TWIN one, to run 2 coils and 2 plugs if you got twin exhausts etc too, think might keep that for whenever i get round to finishing the v8
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Funny colours on the wires
Got to be live,earth and then + to coil,and - to coil.
Unsure what the five wire ones do,could well be like you think,ign cut
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Got to be live,earth and then + to coil,and - to coil.
Unsure what the five wire ones do,could well be like you think,ign cut
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Originally Posted by CosKev3
Funny colours on the wires
Got to be live,earth and then + to coil,and - to coil.
Unsure what the five wire ones do,could well be like you think,ign cut
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Got to be live,earth and then + to coil,and - to coil.
Unsure what the five wire ones do,could well be like you think,ign cut
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going by wire lengths i reckon white is power, brown makes sense to be earth, and the other 2 goes to the coil, which way round i dont know tho.
well, dunno if it matters?
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Steve,
I have a long peice of string here that you cant see.
How long is it please ?
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I have a long peice of string here that you cant see.
How long is it please ?
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Mine is as follows
Blue .. Negative ground
Red ..To ignition positve
Yellow... To coil negative
Thinner Red.... To coil positive
Slightly different colours,but may help you.Regards,Micky
Blue .. Negative ground
Red ..To ignition positve
Yellow... To coil negative
Thinner Red.... To coil positive
Slightly different colours,but may help you.Regards,Micky
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Originally Posted by Micky
Mine is as follows
Blue .. Negative ground
Red ..To ignition positve
Yellow... To coil negative
Thinner Red.... To coil positive
Slightly different colours,but may help you.Regards,Micky
Blue .. Negative ground
Red ..To ignition positve
Yellow... To coil negative
Thinner Red.... To coil positive
Slightly different colours,but may help you.Regards,Micky
Maybe i can guess, im pretty sure I know the 2, just the coil ones I dont.
Will anything bad happen if i put coil ones wrong way round? As if all that happens is stuff dont work, its fine.
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No idea what you mean now mike, i totally totally suck with electrics, will i bugger the coil or flamer box thing if i turn it on with the + and - the wrong way round?
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Originally Posted by Stavros
No idea what you mean now mike, i totally totally suck with electrics, will i bugger the coil or flamer box thing if i turn it on with the + and - the wrong way round?
If you have got a multimeter put it onto the diode testing mode (continuity), and put one multimeter wire on the white and one on the yellow. If the multimeter bleeps or shows a reading very close to zero then they should be as Mike has said
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To check multimeter is in the right mode, put the two wires together and if it bleeps/reads near to zero then it is
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Well as nobody had a multimeter handy
I just got a car battery and picked a wire at random, hey, its 50-50 innit
It worked!
But my curiosity got the better of me so I swapped the wires around
It still worked!
BUT the noises the sparkplug makes are different depending on which wire goes to pos, and which to neg
One way its a high pitched "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" noise, other way it sounds like bad TV radio interferance/static. Spark looks thinner but more constant and stronger on the "eeeeeeeeeeeee", and the sparks much wider but almost see-thru on the interferance/static noise way.
Which way is right? Im guessing "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" as im sure its what it used to do on the Cossie
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It worked!
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But my curiosity got the better of me so I swapped the wires around
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It still worked!
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BUT the noises the sparkplug makes are different depending on which wire goes to pos, and which to neg
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One way its a high pitched "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" noise, other way it sounds like bad TV radio interferance/static. Spark looks thinner but more constant and stronger on the "eeeeeeeeeeeee", and the sparks much wider but almost see-thru on the interferance/static noise way.
Which way is right? Im guessing "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" as im sure its what it used to do on the Cossie
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Radders, ive NO fucking idea about yours ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Live to battery.
Earth to ground/battery.
Positive coil connector.
Negative coil connector.
Not sure why theres a 5th one, my guess is its some kind of ign cut switch or summat that can be grounded on a switch if you wanna use it, so prob dont need it.
Its time to randomly guess what colour is what wire I think mate, like I did mine
Hey, it was free
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Live to battery.
Earth to ground/battery.
Positive coil connector.
Negative coil connector.
Not sure why theres a 5th one, my guess is its some kind of ign cut switch or summat that can be grounded on a switch if you wanna use it, so prob dont need it.
Its time to randomly guess what colour is what wire I think mate, like I did mine
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My advice is use a battery to test it on thats not in your pride and joy, or at least have a fire extinguisher handy
I tested on the mondeos battery, it didnt go near the chaser till i was sure nowt would explode
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I tested on the mondeos battery, it didnt go near the chaser till i was sure nowt would explode
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Just found this... Whats the 10amp fuse for?
This Kit contains the following:
Full fitting instructions. Ignition coil control box
Ignition coil. Spark plug.
Ignition lead. Arming switch with 4meters of cable.
Fuse holder. Spark plug fixing boss.
Rubber grommet. Fixing screws.
Cable ties. 10amp Fuse + Holder
This Kit contains the following:
Full fitting instructions. Ignition coil control box
Ignition coil. Spark plug.
Ignition lead. Arming switch with 4meters of cable.
Fuse holder. Spark plug fixing boss.
Rubber grommet. Fixing screws.
Cable ties. 10amp Fuse + Holder
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Originally Posted by dumped
its ok, just use trailing throttle to get huge boofs from the back. ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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Rad - I used to get nice flames from mine when I was running a bar of boost and they weren't small ones either! But I'm sure the addition of the kit will improve flames
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Mike,
Do you know how to/have a circuit board layout with a component list of how to make the control boxes?
I'd assume it's just some sort of beefed up 555 timer circuit or something?
Do you know how to/have a circuit board layout with a component list of how to make the control boxes?
I'd assume it's just some sort of beefed up 555 timer circuit or something?
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