ECOS95

Might seem like a simple question but everyone seems to think differently.

For me The Sierra, Escort Cosworth are only Cosworths because of the engine. Otherwise it would be badged just RS like the Focus, RST etc. Others think that if you took the engine out and put in another manufactures engine its still a Cosworth.

What do other people think ??

McGoo 69

deffinatly the engine

as we all know cosowrth is a tuning company without the cosworth engine its a RS like you say

pete mcrash

iTrader: (1)

but it is the "Engine"...........it's the dogs.........

charlie luciano

iTrader: (3)

My Mrs always winds me up and says things like its only a Ford Sierra with a special engine blah blah blah.............

my reply is its a special Ford Sierra, engine, running gear, interior, brakes etc etc

Bottom line cosworth means fatness no matter what variant it is


Luciano

ECOS95

If you fitted a Duratec from the Focus RS into the Sierra, Escort Cosworth would the car still be a Cosworth ??

Paddy

What would the logbook say?

Nash

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Yeah and a Cosworth YB is just a fancy Pinto at the end of the day

nilrem

its the spoilers! its a cosworth if its got the spoilers!



























lol.... well considering that it was only really the engine that was changed and the rtest upgraded, i would say the engine... but a the same time, you couldnt put a YB and runnitnt gear onto a saph and call it a cosworth... so its maily the engine... but a bit of everything atthe same time!

ECOS95

Ford wouldn't of badged the car as a Cosworth without the engine, If you put another engine in in my eyes its not a Cosworth any more. The log book reflects how it left the factory & was registered.

matts1

It's the whole package, a 1.8 sierra with a cossie lump ain't a cossy is it.

But when you have the styling, the performance parts and the lump, then you get the whole thing and makes it special.

coswurv

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I dont think anything will replace the cossie and what it achieved, there's not many cars if any from factory that could nearly double the horse power with a few mods

McGoo 69

so my 1.6 escort with genuine cosworth body kit bar wings as there being changed for the carbon+kevlar ones will be a cosworth when it has my cosworth tuned duratec engine

ace lol

Paddy

That doesn't answer the question, what would it say it was on the logbook?

And also defines what car it is

The Cosworth is not just the engine it's the derrivation or trim level of the Sierra model.

An LX will STILL be an LX no matter what modifications have been done to it.

UNLESS THE LOG BOOK IS CHANGED.

ECOS95

The log Book would still say Cosworth because that is how it was sold by Ford & registered. But if the car no long has the Cosworth engine, for me its not one any more.
Seats & Transmission don't make a car what it is, as you say its the complete package that make the car, but the engine is a fundamental part.

tomti

what about the scorpio 24v? thats got a cosworth engine but not badged as a cossie. is it a cosworth or not?

the saint

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what i dick you are mate,if the logbook says something then that what it is regardless of any mods/changes made

so i cosworth is no longer a cosworth once the engine is gone so that means you drop that engine in an old escort say it then becomes a cosworth because thats what engine it has

the saint

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it obvious that fords came up with a deal which meant the car would be known as an RS cosworth so deal with it. they did call the granada a cosworth but it was not badged as RS and im sure they had there reasons.

ECOS95

Your the DICK if you can't accept that other people have different opinions to you.

Glenn_

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The cosworth is a pure legend in my eyes. If you take the engine out of a cossie its like taking the heart out of a person. I dont think ford will make another car like it. If you take the motor out the car is still badged as a cossie. Ive seen a photo of a 3 door whale tale with a vauxhall xe turbo engine in. Why.

ECOS95

Deal with WHO ?? COSWORTH ?? Nothing else in the car that I know of came from Cosworth but the engine ?

I'd imagine the reason the Granada never got the RS badge is becasue they weren't trying to sell it to the sort of customer that would buy an RS. I bet money Ford wouldn't of badged the Granada Cosworth unless the engine was built in some way by Cosworth.

pee vee

i'd imagine its because RS means Rally sport., and they never had to homologate a granada as it was never gonna be rallied. lol

I think its the whole package that makes a 'Cosworth' TBH

Trouble is, they are more than the sum of their parts..
re-shelled 3dr is not gonna be worth as much as a Genuine 3dr cosworth ETC. even though its probably got all the same 3dr parts on it.

its just that little word on the log book that makes them worth more, if you see what i mean.

Jimboxr4x4

the saint
No they didn't, it was badged as a 24v although you see a lot with cosworth badges on as a lot of owners seem to add the badge themselves.

mechanic28

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interesting thread this top question to which i dont really think there can be a defined answer,but imo its the engine that makes it a cossie as that is what got sent of to them and then detuned by ford but as said it a whole package interior general set up etc

charlie luciano

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That's because they're shite


Luciano

Dingy

RS1600 and RS1800 escorts mean cosworth to me and it doesn't say it on the car or the logbook

OldDan

Nothing nothing nothing...bOOOOOOOOSSSSSST

Mark V8

iTrader: (2)

That's why a 2 litre engine will never soil my engine bay again



Mark

OldDan

Measly 1.6 over here