Gearbox options
24-09-2007, 11:29 AM
#82
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Not been launching outside of pubs have you Lee? 
Luckily the Bara first gear and main shaft can also be fitted to the Fixit kits if you want to do this on a regular basis.
Luckily the Bara first gear and main shaft can also be fitted to the Fixit kits if you want to do this on a regular basis
.Mike
LOL he wants doggy style...leeeeeeeeeee now !!!!!!!
24-09-2007, 03:34 PM
#88
Originally Posted by NEIL A
Didnt Andy G say he would like to test one of these dog boxes Marco, would be good to see it tested under full race conditions.
Hi Neil
yes he did , im not sure what ratios he uses in his R+D tho or his rear diff ratio
if he use 3.9 in the rear and a 3.6 on the front we have to change the step off gears ,the gears that we are be using are standard ratio this might slow his car down a bit
we could always lend him one to try ill have a word
porkie has just broke his fix it box thats why i said about the dog box for him
marco
24-09-2007, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Another BIG problem is that you can select any gear and any time.....
You CAN very easily Buzz an engine with a Dog box.
Martin, Sean, Wes and a think Kev sharp all buzzed engines with dog boxes....
The chances of me not doing it are slim to none
24-09-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wes
Originally Posted by Porkie
Another BIG problem is that you can select any gear and any time.....
You CAN very easily Buzz an engine with a Dog box.
Martin, Sean, Wes and a think Kev sharp all buzzed engines with dog boxes....
The chances of me not doing it are slim to none
24-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
what box are you going to convert to sequential then?
I have a skyline gearbox, fitted with a Pfitzner dog engagement gearkit, there is a company called Ikeya Formula in Japan that sells an adapter that bolts into the gearbox and makes it sequential, i think Simon Norris used this bit of kit on his last Evo to convert a Hollinger box.
24-09-2007, 05:01 PM
#95
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by NEIL A
Didnt Andy G say he would like to test one of these dog boxes Marco, would be good to see it tested under full race conditions.
Hi Neil
yes he did , im not sure what ratios he uses in his R+D tho or his rear diff ratio
if he use 3.9 in the rear and a 3.6 on the front we have to change the step off gears ,the gears that we are be using are standard ratio this might slow his car down a bit
we could always lend him one to try ill have a word
porkie has just broke his fix it box thats why i said about the dog box for him
marco
fix it gearbox broke
thought these were really strong. wonder when the parts will be available.
24-09-2007, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wes
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
what box are you going to convert to sequential then?
I have a skyline gearbox, fitted with a Pfitzner dog engagement gearkit, there is a company called Ikeya Formula in Japan that sells an adapter that bolts into the gearbox and makes it sequential, i think Simon Norris used this bit of kit on his last Evo to convert a Hollinger box.
im sure someone with a bit of thuoght could make them for the mt75
24-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
24-09-2007, 05:16 PM
#98
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
24-09-2007, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
i can think of a electrical machanical setup that might work! have the movement controlled by a microprocessor and you would have paddle shift
24-09-2007, 05:20 PM
#100
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by NEIL A
Didnt Andy G say he would like to test one of these dog boxes Marco, would be good to see it tested under full race conditions.
Hi Neil
yes he did , im not sure what ratios he uses in his R+D tho or his rear diff ratio
if he use 3.9 in the rear and a 3.6 on the front we have to change the step off gears ,the gears that we are be using are standard ratio this might slow his car down a bit
we could always lend him one to try ill have a word
porkie has just broke his fix it box thats why i said about the dog box for him
marco
fix it gearbox broke
thought these were really strong. wonder when the parts will be available.
Hi dave
i think he might have just broke the OE 1st gear
he told me launched it from a juction and heard a funny noise might not be to bad
bara's got a few uprated 1st gears if he wants it or he can just wait 12 weeks for the dog box
i dont think he will wait , he will just get it repaird and then go for for dog box when it's available marco
24-09-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
24-09-2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
24-09-2007, 05:29 PM
#104
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
24-09-2007, 05:31 PM
#105
Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
i can think of a electrical machanical setup that might work! have the movement controlled by a microprocessor and you would have paddle shift
Bara could easy do a MT75 sequential it would cost alot of money and i don't think it would sell well as you would have to have loads of different gear ratios options for it
The FFD is a H parttern Dog box it can be coverted to sequential but it's mega money to do
Im sure Bara has done stuff for Simon N orris through Tal motorsport
marco
24-09-2007, 05:40 PM
#107
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
marco polo
thought there was not meant to be any real stress on the first gear,hence not fitting an uprated gear.
thought there was not meant to be any real stress on the first gear,hence not fitting an uprated gear.
well there is alot less stress on the 1st gear as the 4th uprated gear takes most of the load but that still doesn't stop them from breaking but does help
marco
24-09-2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
ive seen them on evos.look to be a good conversion,dont think it can be done with mt75 though as its one rod that changes where as these are twin cables.
i can think of a electrical machanical setup that might work! have the movement controlled by a microprocessor and you would have paddle shift
Bara could easy do a MT75 sequential it would cost alot of money and i don't think it would sell well as you would have to have loads of different gear ratios options for it
The FFD is a H parttern Dog box it can be coverted to sequential but it's mega money to do
Im sure Bara has done stuff for Simon N orris through Tal motorsport
marco
Its the cost involved in the design, casting, machining that push the price up.....i'm saving up for mine ATM
The FFD with sequential then brings it some where near an xtrac....
Once the sequential and gear cut are done, the leap to paddle shift aint that expensive....
Quaife do or did a sequntial MT75....and they were just as awful as every other MT75 dog box they did....
24-09-2007, 10:05 PM
#111
Dave,
Even the guy with the 750bhp Cossie in Sweden breaks first gears and main shafts (the standard Ford items), which even Dangerous has broken in launching on the Bara kit. If Lee is lucky, this will all it will be. Hopefully it hasn't taken out anything else
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Not sequential, but a conversion kit for the MT75. Not sure how the syncros will fair...
Even the guy with the 750bhp Cossie in Sweden breaks first gears and main shafts (the standard Ford items), which even Dangerous has broken in launching on the Bara kit. If Lee is lucky, this will all it will be. Hopefully it hasn't taken out anything else
.Not sequential, but a conversion kit for the MT75. Not sure how the syncros will fair...
25-09-2007, 02:22 PM
#114
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by GARETH T
i sat down today and thought a little more about it!
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
yes
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25-09-2007, 02:59 PM
#117
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
i sat down today and thought a little more about it!
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
25-09-2007, 03:11 PM
#118
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Originally Posted by ian sibbert
Originally Posted by GARETH T
i sat down today and thought a little more about it!
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
i think the best way, is to use two stepper motors, and a mirco controller, would be much easyer, and could make it alot more programable so speeds of shifts
25-09-2007, 03:13 PM
#119
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didn't the transits come with a 2wd mt75 box that had a paddle shift option that was basically some sort of pnuematic actuation of the h-pattern shift?
25-09-2007, 03:13 PM
#120
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Originally Posted by ian sibbert
Originally Posted by GARETH T
i sat down today and thought a little more about it!
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
a paddle shift gearbox would be easy enough to make
my method would work on a standard MT75 with standard gear selector shaft