Gearbox options
23-09-2007, 09:25 AM
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can someone describe what dog engagement is please and how much better it is than the normal mullit kits as im very interested in one of these boxs!!
23-09-2007, 09:36 AM
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the difference is, in a syncro box, the syncromesh matches the speed of the gears "before" allowing the gears to be changed! on a dog engagement box the gears just bang straight in, dissadvantge of the dog box of cause is that the "dogs" will wear
dog gears
dog gears
23-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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dog engagement is just a different selector mech within the gearbox.
It allows you to shift up the box....without using the clutch, same as motorbike boxes.
But due to the nature of how it works, smooth road shifts arent to be expected as with normal syncromesh boxes.
But some designs do seem to be better than others in this respect.
It allows you to shift up the box....without using the clutch, same as motorbike boxes.
But due to the nature of how it works, smooth road shifts arent to be expected as with normal syncromesh boxes.
But some designs do seem to be better than others in this respect.
23-09-2007, 11:16 AM
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Is the Highlighted below what mine is?
Have no plans to change box, just want to know what people are using and how proven the product are and costs involved
Hi dave
just to let you know what options are available for the Mullit box
Big tooth striaght cut kit 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
options
uprated 1st same matrial as big tooth gears standard in pattern as the OE part only
uprated mainsahft
uprated center Viscous coupling
5% lower ratio 5th gear
uprated bearings
shot peening/polishing
option 2 HOT OF THE PRESS
New "DOG "engagement" Mullit big tooth gear kit
basically same ratios as the normal Mullit gerabox but dog gears
everything else available for this box also 
hope this helps
cheers marco
Thanks
Is the Highlighted below what mine is?
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by MAD YUM
Originally Posted by B9KOS
Get a Mullet box Dave Proven and parts are available 
But get Bara to make a 'dog' version
Proven and parts are available But get Bara to make a 'dog' version
Have no plans to change box, just want to know what people are using and how proven the product are and costs involved
Hi dave
just to let you know what options are available for the Mullit box
Big tooth striaght cut kit 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
options
uprated 1st same matrial as big tooth gears standard in pattern as the OE part only
uprated mainsahft
uprated center Viscous coupling
5% lower ratio 5th gear
uprated bearings
shot peening/polishing
option 2 HOT OF THE PRESS
New "DOG "engagement" Mullit big tooth gear kit
basically same ratios as the normal Mullit gerabox but dog gears
everything else available for this box also
hope this helps
cheers marco
23-09-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: Gearbox options
Originally Posted by MAD YUM
See a post the other night but cant find it
Just would like to know where you would go from a fixit kit
Speaking to lee today is he is well happy with his, and also heard that mike did over 35k in miles
And all this from a standard input shalf and 1st gear
But what about standing starts.
So who know what then???
This is a info post only and just wanting to know whats out there and how much!!
Cheers
Dave
Just would like to know where you would go from a fixit kit
Speaking to lee today is he is well happy with his, and also heard that mike did over 35k in miles
And all this from a standard input shalf and 1st gear
But what about standing starts.
So who know what then???
This is a info post only and just wanting to know whats out there and how much!!
Cheers
Dave
I am on 3.9 diffs which gives the box a much easier time though.
Car might be a little lighter than yours though. Not as much as you think though. Big cage don't forget!
I will be changing to that dog box though if Bara start doing them!!!
Cooooooooooooool
23-09-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by stevieturbo
So which Ford based box will handle a 10 second capable car all day or weekend long at a sticky track and some decent tyres, without having to worry about getting stranded ?
Mullit ? Fixit ? other ?
Mullit ? Fixit ? other ?
Seem to be very good for the money too...
Si
Fixit is alot quieter than the Bara box as its helical not straight cut.
Bara has better parts availibity and service.
I am using Fixit at moment. Its been bombproof in the very few miles I have done. Its quiet and strong and very good..... and is now FOR SALE
23-09-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
the difference is, in a syncro box, the syncromesh matches the speed of the gears "before" allowing the gears to be changed! on a dog engagement box the gears just bang straight in, dissadvantge of the dog box of cause is that the "dogs" will wear
dog gears
dog gears
You CAN very easily Buzz an engine with a Dog box.
Martin, Sean, Wes and a think Kev sharp all buzzed engines with dog boxes....
The chances of me not doing it are slim to none
23-09-2007, 01:00 PM
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Dog boxes are HORRID on the road, unless you are on it and attacking each gear change, it will crunch and might not go in, unless you are doing constant track work I personally would stick with a syncro box
The upside of the dog box is that when you are going for it, the change is very fast, Stu's data logging equiptment couln't pick up 4th-5th in 4x4_ste's 3 door, the one in last months fast ford
The upside of the dog box is that when you are going for it, the change is very fast, Stu's data logging equiptment couln't pick up 4th-5th in 4x4_ste's 3 door, the one in last months fast ford
23-09-2007, 01:16 PM
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[quote="Porkie"]
I will be changing to that dog box though if Bara start doing them!!!
Cooooooooooooool
Hi Lee
I have asked him to make 3 dog kits for now to keep cost down
the dog box is only a little more expensive not much more tho
marco
Originally Posted by MAD YUM
I will be changing to that dog box though if Bara start doing them!!!
Cooooooooooooool
I have asked him to make 3 dog kits for now to keep cost down
the dog box is only a little more expensive not much more tho
marco
23-09-2007, 02:56 PM
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cossiemanden wrote:
martin-reyland wrote:
A synchro Skyline box could be a good option for a road car.
A price would be nice martin
About 6k fitted
martin-reyland wrote:
A synchro Skyline box could be a good option for a road car.
A price would be nice martin
About 6k fitted
Have a friend that has used an r/d 6 speed dog box, and abused it for a long time now, still works sweet, but SHIT it´s noisy
Have bought some 15" M/T dragradials for my car now with some 15" superlegeras, but havent got the time to test them as i have sold my management system.
Should be fun to see what the driveline are gonna say to 550+bhp and full launch with those tyres on.(fixit std diffs)
23-09-2007, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Dog boxes are HORRID on the road, unless you are on it and attacking each gear change, it will crunch and might not go in, unless you are doing constant track work I personally would stick with a syncro box
The upside of the dog box is that when you are going for it, the change is very fast, Stu's data logging equiptment couln't pick up 4th-5th in 4x4_ste's 3 door, the one in last months fast ford
The upside of the dog box is that when you are going for it, the change is very fast, Stu's data logging equiptment couln't pick up 4th-5th in 4x4_ste's 3 door, the one in last months fast ford
23-09-2007, 06:14 PM
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Everyone wants to knock the R+D,and yes their service does'nt have a great reputation, but i hav'nt seen many people beat Martin's 0-60 time with one fitted and i did'nt see many people pass Gallachers Focus at Croft.According to PF mag he's running R+D also.
23-09-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by allsteel
Everyone wants to knock the R+D,and yes their service does'nt have a great reputation, but i hav'nt seen many people beat Martin's 0-60 time with one fitted and i did'nt see many people pass Gallachers Focus at Croft.According to PF mag he's running R+D also.
But who has them then?
23-09-2007, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by allsteel
Everyone wants to knock the R+D,and yes their service does'nt have a great reputation, but i hav'nt seen many people beat Martin's 0-60 time with one fitted and i did'nt see many people pass Gallachers Focus at Croft.According to PF mag he's running R+D also.
23-09-2007, 06:30 PM
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R+D are sometimes are hit and miss
some of them last a long time some break quicker than others
scottys r+d broke doing standard start off the line so did Seans and Andrew broke his not so long ago so that statement is incorrect
to be honest all of the gearboxes will break at some point nothing lasts forever thats just motorsport
having them inspected does help to make them last longer that goes for any box
nothing is fit and forget .lol...
marco
some of them last a long time some break quicker than others
scottys r+d broke doing standard start off the line so did Seans and Andrew broke his not so long ago so that statement is incorrect
to be honest all of the gearboxes will break at some point nothing lasts forever thats just motorsport
having them inspected does help to make them last longer that goes for any box
nothing is fit and forget .lol...
marco
23-09-2007, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
A synchro Skyline box could be a good option for a road car.
Obviously its not straightforward to fit one as you know....but I'll get there eventually
24-09-2007, 10:54 AM
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so how much is a mullit to get compared to a quaife then? and i take it that quaife really dont like to do launches?
i actually really like the winey box soumd tbh.makes the car sound a bit more mean.
i actually really like the winey box soumd tbh.makes the car sound a bit more mean.
i think it's cheaper than the quaife built up and stronger
24-09-2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by Porkie
Update.....
:cry
FUCKING REDSTRIPE
:cryFUCKING REDSTRIPE
Porkie
what about 1/2 dog box for you 2nd 3rd 4th ??? 1st standard syncro/ 5th syncro reverse syncro ???
marco
Can he make it today? that would be good
24-09-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by Porkie
Update.....
:cry
FUCKING REDSTRIPE
:cryFUCKING REDSTRIPE
Porkie
what about 1/2 dog box for you 2nd 3rd 4th ??? 1st standard syncro/ 5th syncro reverse syncro ???
marco
Can he make it today? that would be good
lee
not today
ill find out about 1 o'clock just waiting on a call see if it can be done or not
marco