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Right does anyone know anything bad about these machines apart from the usual wear and tear items?

and can anyone work out from this pic what guages these are and what they read as I have no clue!




Any sensible help will be useful

Stavros

No idea about em, well not as much as the Evo onwers on here.

Gauges look like Boost, EGT, and Oil Temp tho.
Aftermarket Greddy ones.

Mike Rainbird

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The RS version of the Evos (IMO) are the best versions. This is because they don't have the AYC (which requires the short service intervals). Also the RS diffs are VERY strong and is what all the big power boys convert over to (at a cost of around £3k for the rear diff!).

The 7 is an aquired taste, but again (IMO), I think they look better than the 6.

The gauges are (top to bottom) Greddy oil temp, boost (with peak recall) and EGT (with peak recall). Very nice gauges .

Chip

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Top one looks like oil temp
Second one looks like boost
bottom one looks like EGT

None of those are standard kit though on the RS as far as im aware.

Chip

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Doh, beaten to it by rainbird

Stavros

who was already beaten to it by me

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Nice on chaps! Looks like I could be onto a winner then!

Tuning potentials are pretty much the same as any other turbocharged engined car but are there any specialists out there who are good for these?

Porkie

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Mike Rainbird

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But neither of you mentioned the peak recall facility on the gauges or answered the questions about the Evo .

Chip

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You are limited by the conrods, 400bhp is pushing it frankly

I wouldnt really care less either way about gauges on the car when you get it as tehy are so easy to fit anyway.

Chip

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PS

Tuner = Mark Shead @ MA Developments

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So say a mild 350 bhp and it would be safe? The gauge question was just a small issue I was inquiring about, but who does the best tuning for these? (ooPs Chip has already answered!)

Charlie Chalk

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MAD
Norris Designs
RC Development

Mike Rainbird

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Gary and Christian at APT - 01603 870 990.

In fact Gary has a 2.3 AMS conversion on his Evo 7, that he has converted to RS gearbox / diff and it runs 600bhp on Motec. The car is awesome .

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...226904&start=0

Mark at MAD is also VERY good.

It just depends who is closest .

Chip

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350 is safe all day long mate yes

You need to be swapping those rods out to make the most of it though, its a chassis and suspension package begging for 450+ IMHO!

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Merci Monsieur Cunt

Chip

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Owen developments are also very good with Evo's


Basically, you are spoilt for choice with top tuners

PT

One of my mates has an evo 9 RS. Awesome thing 411 bhp @ wheels

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Thanks for all the advice people! I shall hopefully have this car in my possession soon

Charlie Chalk

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Pictures?!

Staffi

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350 Will be absoultly fine, if that's your kind of figure in mind and you want no more in the future i'd have the car ECUTEK mapped, this will give you 350+ and similar torque. RC Developments do this package with a Fuel Pump/Plugs/ and one of there custom exhausts, i had this on my Tommi Mak, very good value.

If however you want to go forged etc, i'd look no further than Mark Shead (MA DEVELOPMENTS) He also carried out the work on my Evo when i had Autronic fitted and my cossie, one of the best tuners on both makes IMO..

Hope this helps...

Don't forget, if it's a genuine RS SPrint, it'll have 320 bhp standard..

Chip

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Also it will be low geared if its an RS Sprint which makes it seem quicker too

Big Will_

The 7's are good, but they brought out the 8's soon after to rectify the few little faults the 7's had.

Also, when you have a 7 serviced - tell them to service it to evo 8+ spec, the suggested oil in the transfer case on the 7's is 80W90, yet for an 8 and beyond its 80W140 which has the added benefit of shock protection.

Tuning wise - 350 lb/ft is your safe ceiling for torque, don't worry about doing ARP rod bolts for that sort of power, it's bullshit - the standard ones are fine.

I know when i was at RC Developments we did our Ecutek package for £1760 - which was Apexi AVCR boost controller, Apexi Induction kit, HKS iridium plugs, Walbro in tank pump and a full RC 3" Stainless exhaust system and it honestly did transform the car...

If you can - save up and get an Evo 8 MR - they are in my opinion 'the one' - the cams have an extra 1mm of lift, the exhaust housing is bigger on the turbo and the bottom ends are strong to over 400 lb/ft.

If you are mega keen on this 7 - let me know and i'll come view it with you

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Points taken and thank you again

Stavros

Here is a nice Evo8 for sale, quite swift, decent spec for a 1st time owner, never raced or rallied, etc etc

http://www.sumopower.com/sumo%20evo%...for%20sale.htm

MikeR

Can i jump in please

The rs diff is the one that everybody buys for big power like Rainbum has said, i believe that they are a little lower specced cars (fewer creature comforts) not sure what though.

Gary at APT is very good with these so is Simon at Norris Designs,

I wanted Autronics so opted for Mark Shead who is very good with these, take a look around and different cars and see who has built what and acheived what with these things

The MLR have a thing called MLR Modified were you can compare different specs and cars and tuners they playing field is leveled somewhat because they only allow Dyno Dynamic results to be used.

Mike

Also i have been told and hopefully Will can clarify this that an Apexi Boost controller is not really needed with the right managment i know i certainly dont have one for mine but i dont know enough about this/these to say for sure

And as Steve has just posted that looks a great car hate to think what they want for it they should have left it the previous color as that pink is horrible IMO

Staffi

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BUT not half as rare as the RS Sprint and quite abit heavier aswell and the Sprint will be up tp 100mph in a flash..
Remeber, RS versions aren't bought for comfort, OR topend, they do what they say on the tin...

Big Will_

Mike,

No - you can run independant boost control within other management systems - most of them can control a solenoid...

However - the 'tried and tested' solution at RC was with an AVCR and we personally found it more reliable and easier to alter 'in car'

MikeR

Arh ok, you see i can not alter my boost in car which to be honest is fine by me,

Will are you going to Rally Day ??

Mike

Mark Shead

Mike

You can have a Ecu selected switched boost but why would you want to turn it down .

Mark

Big Will_

Yes i am mate, if you'd like to PM me your number i'll give you a shout and we'll catch up

MikeR

I want it to go up not down but lets see what you say on Saturday

Will pm coming your way

Mike

PT

Redkop

Has James had more done to his car recently then? When I saw him at Dono at the end of July he said it was probably over 400bhp at the fly..... he didn't know for sure.

PT

Havent seen him for a while to be honest Lynne. Will prob see him wknd and ask. Their was talk of a Porsche last time I spoke to him
411 @ the fly was what I was told. Dont know on whos rollers

Redkop

Paul... you said at the wheels before, that's why I questioned you

Other than exhaust/decat and induction kit, I didn't think James has actually had any engine mods done to it yet, if he has it's only an EcuTek reflash. His car went very well at Dono though

PT

Sorry, cant type right lol. He told me @ the wheels it was 411bhp. He has fastest lap at local go karting track as well and it says 411 @ the wheels on the board. You' ve got me curious now, so will have to find out what mods he has lol.