Me Vs. Norfolk Police (UPDATED - Back from court......)
15-10-2007, 05:34 PM
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Keep going to court and prooving your innocenence and wait untill it gets thrown out.
have the local media there and the mother of a serious crime victim and highlight the police and cps wasting there time on shit like this, tax payers money etc etc
have the local media there and the mother of a serious crime victim and highlight the police and cps wasting there time on shit like this, tax payers money etc etc
15-10-2007, 05:37 PM
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RWD_cossie_wil - The only person getting involved with this is me..... I am prepared to go the distance with it though.... 
Shings - Sounds like such a plan! Wish i could get some sort of media involvement with it, i know then it wouldnt take long to resolve!
Lambchop - Exactly my thoughts! Im simply not having it!
Shings - Sounds like such a plan! Wish i could get some sort of media involvement with it, i know then it wouldnt take long to resolve!
Lambchop - Exactly my thoughts! Im simply not having it!
15-10-2007, 05:41 PM
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Oh yer, just to add! Upon reading the second statement, there is a line in there where the officer is quoting me by saying....
"That he had points on his licence and didnt want anymore!"
Now ive had a clean licence for the past 2 years+ (Infact ive NEVER had any sort of penatly!!)
Why ever would i say that, and even more so why would he quote me on it?! The other statement (the one i got first) makes no mention of this! 
"That he had points on his licence and didnt want anymore!"
Now ive had a clean licence for the past 2 years+ (Infact ive NEVER had any sort of penatly!!)
Why ever would i say that, and even more so why would he quote me on it?! The other statement (the one i got first) makes no mention of this!
15-10-2007, 05:50 PM
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Mate, basically they KNOW they have fucked up, but rarther than say "really really sorry, you were right we were wrong, our bad", they are trying to save face and push it through anyway. Beware of majestrates, they are a bunch of bent bastards as well, they will ALWAYS side with the pigs, it's not a case of innocent until proven guilty, it's march in the guilty bastard and his lying mates 
- Even though it is against our whole legal system, YOU are being treated guilty until you can prove your innocence ..... Really, trust me on this, get a good brief and you will walk, on your own and they will cream you 
.... Been there done that, even if you know you are in the right .
Have you contacted the sun yet? They love a good waste of time by the piggys/courts story
- Even though it is against our whole legal system, YOU are being treated guilty until you can prove your innocence ..... Really, trust me on this, get a good brief and you will walk, on your own and they will cream you .... Been there done that, even if you know you are in the right .Have you contacted the sun yet? They love a good waste of time by the piggys/courts story
15-10-2007, 06:10 PM
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W. T. F? 
as said go to local/national press. Just copy & paste the threads from here
if you have the strength, go to the end and fight. the law is an ass. and when you finally win, sue the cunts for "stress".
as said go to local/national press. Just copy & paste the threads from here
if you have the strength, go to the end and fight. the law is an ass. and when you finally win, sue the cunts for "stress".
15-10-2007, 08:40 PM
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keep going back to court mate it WILL get thrown out and hopefully the twats that charged you in first place get there balls wrapped.
they deffo wouldnt offer you a lesser charge at this late stage if they had any proof imo.
they deffo wouldnt offer you a lesser charge at this late stage if they had any proof imo.
15-10-2007, 08:53 PM
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Hi mate 
Wont go into one of the times I was in court and one of the coppers had to re write there and then for the magistrates her statement and drawings of roads FIVE times
to be correct as the magistrate NEW the roads , oh and identical to mine , or where I was meant to have mounted the pavement and run these two women down (they was in the road when I hit em ! 
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But anyway as I remember it on your original thread the cops got kinda cocky and said it didnt matter whether you could prove you had used YOUR phone or not AS it may not have been your phone you was on (basically they was gonna try doing ya anyway, and was confident they could ), anyway if they can do this, SURELY they should have confiscated ALL the mobile phones present in the car at that time, and had them ALL checked for usage, maybe the fact they didnt do this could help you, as in if they deffinately see you usaing A PHONE, surely they need them all if they gonna try using that excuse , or didnt they see clearly enough what the phone looked like that you was using If they described yours PERFECTLY you can PROVE it wasnt used, if they CANT describe YOURS then maybe they didnt see the offending phone as clearly as they are saying
The only worry I would have if I was you, is the fact one of the coppers on here stated it DOESNT have to even be a mobile phone, the phone isnt the exact thing you will be being done for, will be summit distracting your driving or not in full control etc
The fact they are trying to alter your charge is all good tho, they are now obviously worried they cant make the original charge stick, and if I was you I wouldnt allow them to change it and say NO you accused me of "this" now charge prove and convict me of THAT offence
GOOD LUCK with it any how
Steve
Wont go into one of the times I was in court and one of the coppers had to re write there and then for the magistrates her statement and drawings of roads FIVE times
to be correct as the magistrate NEW the roads , oh and identical to mine , or where I was meant to have mounted the pavement and run these two women down (they was in the road when I hit em ! )But anyway as I remember it on your original thread the cops got kinda cocky and said it didnt matter whether you could prove you had used YOUR phone or not
AS it may not have been your phone you was on (basically they was gonna try doing ya anyway, and was confident they could ), anyway if they can do this, SURELY they should have confiscated ALL the mobile phones present in the car at that time, and had them ALL checked for usage, maybe the fact they didnt do this could help you, as in if they deffinately see you usaing A PHONE, surely they need them all if they gonna try using that excuse , or didnt they see clearly enough what the phone looked like that you was using If they described yours PERFECTLY you can PROVE it wasnt used, if they CANT describe YOURS then maybe they didnt see the offending phone as clearly as they are saying The only worry I would have if I was you, is the fact one of the coppers on here stated it DOESNT have to even be a mobile phone, the phone isnt the exact thing you will be being done for, will be summit distracting your driving or not in full control etc
The fact they are trying to alter your charge is all good tho, they are now obviously worried they cant make the original charge stick, and if I was you I wouldnt allow them to change it and say NO you accused me of "this" now charge prove and convict me of THAT offence
GOOD LUCK with it any how
Steve
15-10-2007, 09:03 PM
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Hi mate
Wont go into one of the times I was in court and one of the coppers had to re write there and then for the magistrates her statement and drawings of roads FIVE times to be correct as the magistrate NEW the roads , oh and identical to mine , or where I was meant to have mounted the pavement and run these two women down (they was in the road when I hit em ! )
But anyway as I remember it on your original thread the cops got kinda cocky and said it didnt matter whether you could prove you had used YOUR phone or not AS it may not have been your phone you was on (basically they was gonna try doing ya anyway, and was confident they could ), anyway if they can do this, SURELY they should have confiscated ALL the mobile phones present in the car at that time, and had them ALL checked for usage, maybe the fact they didnt do this could help you, as in if they deffinately see you usaing A PHONE, surely they need them all if they gonna try using that excuse , or didnt they see clearly enough what the phone looked like that you was using If they described yours PERFECTLY you can PROVE it wasnt used, if they CANT describe YOURS then maybe they didnt see the offending phone as clearly as they are saying
The only worry I would have if I was you, is the fact one of the coppers on here stated it DOESNT have to even be a mobile phone, the phone isnt the exact thing you will be being done for, will be summit distracting your driving or not in full control etc
The fact they are trying to alter your charge is all good tho, they are now obviously worried they cant make the original charge stick, and if I was you I wouldnt allow them to change it and say NO you accused me of "this" now charge prove and convict me of THAT offence
GOOD LUCK with it any how
Steve
Wont go into one of the times I was in court and one of the coppers had to re write there and then for the magistrates her statement and drawings of roads FIVE times
to be correct as the magistrate NEW the roads , oh and identical to mine , or where I was meant to have mounted the pavement and run these two women down (they was in the road when I hit em ! )But anyway as I remember it on your original thread the cops got kinda cocky and said it didnt matter whether you could prove you had used YOUR phone or not
AS it may not have been your phone you was on (basically they was gonna try doing ya anyway, and was confident they could ), anyway if they can do this, SURELY they should have confiscated ALL the mobile phones present in the car at that time, and had them ALL checked for usage, maybe the fact they didnt do this could help you, as in if they deffinately see you usaing A PHONE, surely they need them all if they gonna try using that excuse , or didnt they see clearly enough what the phone looked like that you was using If they described yours PERFECTLY you can PROVE it wasnt used, if they CANT describe YOURS then maybe they didnt see the offending phone as clearly as they are saying The only worry I would have if I was you, is the fact one of the coppers on here stated it DOESNT have to even be a mobile phone, the phone isnt the exact thing you will be being done for, will be summit distracting your driving or not in full control etc
The fact they are trying to alter your charge is all good tho, they are now obviously worried they cant make the original charge stick, and if I was you I wouldnt allow them to change it and say NO you accused me of "this" now charge prove and convict me of THAT offence
GOOD LUCK with it any how
Steve
Surely this by itself proves this is not the case!
And im not going to have any of this "Alternative Charge", its 5 months on and ive already taken legal advice on the original charge, also having appeared already for the first offence im not going to be holding my hands up to anything else!
15-10-2007, 09:28 PM
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Who have you spoken to at my gaff Neil?
15-10-2007, 10:54 PM
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The amount of hearings you are having is not unusual. Some people havea ridiculous amount
Also you are wondering why only now you have had an alternative charge laid. The top and bottom of it is just before your PTR date is the first time a lawyer will actually review in detail the file.
The second statement is no difficulty in getting, just a phone call to one guy, who emails the officer. Next time they are on they just print, sign and send back. As long as its served before your next hearing the prosecution are safe.
Also you are wondering why only now you have had an alternative charge laid. The top and bottom of it is just before your PTR date is the first time a lawyer will actually review in detail the file.
The second statement is no difficulty in getting, just a phone call to one guy, who emails the officer. Next time they are on they just print, sign and send back. As long as its served before your next hearing the prosecution are safe.
17-10-2007, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Redeye Jedi
Going to see a solicitor tomorrow, gonna get him on board!! No more fucking around, time to take them to the cleaners! 
26-10-2007, 01:35 PM
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Well after spending 3 hours in court this morning, i was found GUILTY of the offence "Using a mobile phone whilst driving", issued 3 points and Ł215 charge/fine!
What a fucking complete shower of shit the police and the court system actually are, absolutely no evidence against me apart from the 2 coppers statements which when read in court appeared very suspect!
Cant get over it, although im glad its over with. Not the result i wanted as i clearly did not commit the offence but i guess what the police says goes nowadays!
CUNTS!
What a fucking complete shower of shit the police and the court system actually are, absolutely no evidence against me apart from the 2 coppers statements which when read in court appeared very suspect!
Cant get over it, although im glad its over with. Not the result i wanted as i clearly did not commit the offence but i guess what the police says goes nowadays!
CUNTS!
26-10-2007, 01:54 PM
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Im not going to bother wasting any more time and effort on it now, in total its cost me in excess of Ł350, and 4 days off work.
The papers werent interested before the trial so they sure arent going to be now, im just glad its over and done with!
Lost every bit of trust and respect in the police now, cunts!
The papers werent interested before the trial so they sure arent going to be now, im just glad its over and done with!
Lost every bit of trust and respect in the police now, cunts!
26-10-2007, 02:20 PM
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as a general rule the only time any of us come into contact with the old bill is when we are being shafted by 'em, from what you have said that sounds truely disgusting and just about sums up our society today
as has been said how can we possibly have any respect for these kretins when issues like this are raised, truely diplorable
as has been said how can we possibly have any respect for these kretins when issues like this are raised, truely diplorable
26-10-2007, 02:49 PM
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I'm sorry to the very few 'straight' coppers around, but I haven't met one yet.
WANKERS. WANKERS. WANKERS.
WANKERS. WANKERS. WANKERS.
shit result mate.there probably in the same lodge as the judge
26-10-2007, 03:09 PM
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i find it very difficult to believe that, with the paper evidence of the phone company supporting your claim that you were not on the phone at the time youwere stopped, the judge found you guilty of being on the phone
wheres that fella who does legal stuff?
can't you appeal on the grounds that the judge was a fuckwit or soemthing?
wheres that fella who does legal stuff?
can't you appeal on the grounds that the judge was a fuckwit or soemthing?
26-10-2007, 04:36 PM
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I'd appeal personally, drag the bent c*nts back into court and discredit them. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?, with the evidence to back up you are innocent.
26-10-2007, 04:52 PM
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as much as i don't agree with people causing damage to other cars etc i would torch the coppers own cars for being such cunts. Then see if they can prove that. Which they would probably say they seen you anyway. Can't win can you.
26-10-2007, 05:39 PM
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Did you have a soliciter with you and did you get copies of all the phone records they had? Mate I TOLD you the fucking wankers would do this , it's an absolute disgrace , Appeal this PLEASE!!!!
, it's an absolute disgrace , Appeal this PLEASE!!!!
