General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

change my t3 to a t2 hybrid....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-09-2007, 11:35 AM
  #1  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default change my t3 to a t2 hybrid....

im thinking of getting a better turbo..wanting to go hybrid

i have a fiesta efi engine with a t3 conversion...but would a t2 stage 1 hybrid be better?

Old 12-09-2007, 11:43 AM
  #2  
xr4x4rs
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (5)
 
xr4x4rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: coventry
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

no mate

as its already a smaller turbo

you rbetter off leaving the t3 on

as if you put the t2 on you have to have a new downpipe made, boost hoses which are smaller,air filter pipe etc
Old 12-09-2007, 11:43 AM
  #3  
Neil@FastFord
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Neil@FastFord's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Oldham + Fast Ford
Posts: 4,657
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

No, T2's are wank!!

Overpriced and fragile
Old 12-09-2007, 11:46 AM
  #4  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

so obviously should look for a stage 1 t3?

whould a stage 2 or 3 be to much for my near standard setup? (exhaust, filter and 31 actuator)
Old 12-09-2007, 12:15 PM
  #5  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

.............?
Old 12-09-2007, 12:23 PM
  #6  
luke89
Team HOTHOT!
iTrader: (1)
 
luke89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Reading, Berkshire
Posts: 4,166
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

if your lookin to go for more power at a later date go for the stage3 t3 , put your proper cooler on change to ofab and get a 195 chip and then have everything checked
Old 12-09-2007, 12:31 PM
  #7  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

a few people have said change to ofab....

thought ofac was the better of the two?

whats the stages 1/2/3 like...bhp gains? more lag? price obviously..

what kind of bhp would you gain for a stage 1/2/3 hybrid t3?

what kind of bhp would be gained from my grs fmic?
Old 12-09-2007, 12:36 PM
  #8  
xr4x4rs
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (5)
 
xr4x4rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: coventry
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

as far as im aware its just different internals or things done insde the turbo to cope with more boost when needed

so your car will still run the same power wether its a stage 1 or 3 as you will only run the same amount of boost but the turbo will be able to stay together better at that sort of boost

obviously a bigger cooler is going to help a lot and you should see a big improvement id think

ofab is the better way, ofac is just the easiest to wire up thats whya lot of cars are converted using ofac

cossie mangaement s what you really want top get full gains out of your engine though, but not really needed unless its a good spec engine id say
Old 12-09-2007, 01:53 PM
  #9  
luke89
Team HOTHOT!
iTrader: (1)
 
luke89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Reading, Berkshire
Posts: 4,166
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

as above really the stage 3 will hold to getther much better if u ever need to wind the boost right up, but some have cut back blads diffrent bearings 360o ect ect , ofab runs 12psi standerd i think ? but also can run 3bar map senser were as the ofac can only run a 2, fittin the cooler will see good glains when the boost is turned up but you have to run more boost becuase of the size
Old 12-09-2007, 04:15 PM
  #10  
Carlsworth
Former Sponsor
 
Carlsworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: blackpool
Posts: 4,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

heres some figures
based on turbo supplied

standard £225 (recon)
stage 1 £315
stage 2 £440
stage 3 £629


hth
carl
Old 12-09-2007, 04:30 PM
  #11  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

putting down a deposit tonight on a turbo off a mate, very good standard t3, no play or nothing bearing spins very smooth and been told it doesnt smoke at all....

what sort of price would be a decent price for a standard t3 turbo like the above?
Old 12-09-2007, 04:31 PM
  #12  
DanCossie
Post Whore
iTrader: (1)
 
DanCossie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chingford
Posts: 7,037
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i paid my mate £50 quid each for 2 turbos i bought off him as spares for emergencies
Old 12-09-2007, 04:52 PM
  #13  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DanCossie
i paid my mate £50 quid each for 2 turbos i bought off him as spares for emergencies
yer so obviously they had seen better days..

i mean how much would a very good condition standard t3 cost?
no play in shaft, no damage/wear on blades and doesnt smoke at all.

how much could a sell my t3 for, just started to smoke, still comes on boost and pulls well but just smokes abit?
Old 12-09-2007, 04:56 PM
  #14  
xr4x4rs
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (5)
 
xr4x4rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: coventry
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

about 80-100 quid mate

there not really worth a lot

and it could last years or it could last 5 mins

edit, thats for a working one lol

yours is worth i dont know, say £20
Old 12-09-2007, 04:56 PM
  #15  
DanCossie
Post Whore
iTrader: (1)
 
DanCossie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chingford
Posts: 7,037
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

if its smoking why would anyone buy it mate??

and they werent shagged they were just sittin in his garage so i offered him £50 quid each.

have a look on ebay mate
Old 12-09-2007, 05:00 PM
  #16  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
about 80-100 quid mate

there not really worth a lot

and it could last years or it could last 5 mins
80/100 for a very good condition t3? or for mine, thats decent condition just smokes a little on boost.

but if its going to cost around 230 to have it reconned and to supply the turbo, i could buy this mint t3 off my mate, sell mine which is pretty decent to be honest and still boost very well, so it wouldnt have cost much.

thanks for the replys tho
Old 12-09-2007, 05:01 PM
  #17  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

20 quid for a decent one, boost fine just smokes a tad? dont think so mate, got to be worth more than that
Old 12-09-2007, 05:01 PM
  #18  
xr4x4rs
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (5)
 
xr4x4rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: coventry
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

read my reply mate as i didnt read your post correctly



no one wants a smoke turbo, there worth sod all and just good paper weights
Old 12-09-2007, 05:02 PM
  #19  
bonus_boy
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
 
bonus_boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: brierley hill
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
read my reply mate as i didnt read your post correctly



no one wants a smoke turbo, there worth sod all and just good paper weights
i might try and find a rebuild kit and try it out myself
Old 12-09-2007, 06:29 PM
  #20  
Terry Tibbs
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Terry Tibbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Essex!
Posts: 3,115
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bonus_boy
Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
read my reply mate as i didnt read your post correctly



no one wants a smoke turbo, there worth sod all and just good paper weights
i might try and find a rebuild kit and try it out myself
Good luck mate
Old 12-09-2007, 06:49 PM
  #21  
Oranoco
Professional Waffler
 
Oranoco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: HertFORDshire
Posts: 25,425
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

T2 is shite which is why so many people (me included) bin them of their Fiesta's.

IF you can rebuild the turbo yu certainly won't be able to balance it. Send your turbo off and have it rebuilt. At your spec standard should suffice. TBH I wouldn't worry about Stage 3 as I found my car beame less drivable when I swapped mine over Gained about 8bhp peak but the driveability suffered
Old 12-09-2007, 07:52 PM
  #22  
Carlsworth
Former Sponsor
 
Carlsworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: blackpool
Posts: 4,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

TBH I wouldn't worry about Stage 3 as I found my car beame less drivable when I swapped mine over Gained about 8bhp peak but the driveability suffered


stage 2 is a good all rounder for rst imo...
obviously not if your going 8million bhp,....

carl
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
abz474
Cars for Sale
9
01-11-2015 06:53 PM
nicodinho
Ford Non RS / XR / ST parts for sale.
6
07-10-2015 12:56 PM
dojj
General Car Related Discussion.
2
29-09-2015 10:32 PM
rsguy
General Car Related Discussion.
44
29-09-2015 03:29 PM
marky_g
General Car Related Discussion.
4
12-09-2015 04:26 PM



Quick Reply: change my t3 to a t2 hybrid....



All times are GMT. The time now is 06:19 AM.