How will a 230bhp escort turbo compair to a 350bhp cosworth?
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I dont personally think most birds find a car with solid suspension and a noisy exhaust a turn on.
Roll up in your nice BMW and then I'd say you are more likely to impress.
Out of the choice of a nova or RS Turbo I would take a nova anyday, much better all rounder IMO , one can moan that you need a LET to be fast but very few stick with a cvh anymore do they.
Both are fun cars though which IMO is what counts
Roll up in your nice BMW and then I'd say you are more likely to impress.
Out of the choice of a nova or RS Turbo I would take a nova anyday, much better all rounder IMO , one can moan that you need a LET to be fast but very few stick with a cvh anymore do they.
Both are fun cars though which IMO is what counts
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I had a bit of a problem explaining to my bird why i was selling my 325 coupe with air con and cream leather to fund a Zetec Turbo engine
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For full on 0 - top speed a cossie would win hands down.
But for instance i can keep a 380 bhp escos 4x4 of my tail from 30 - 130 no problems, but i have a car thats set up to do it. Its down to the power to weight ratio of the car....
With all the right parts for handling the power - quaife box, rose jointed adjustable arms etc mine will not loose traction at all.... unless wet of course lol.
if any one has seen the video on here of Andrew G focus at knockhill the caterhams are giving that car hell of good run.. with probably half the power, as its half the weight.
however a cossie will piss past me once 130 is reached and i cant catch it for shit.
my car is 300 bhp per tonne
a 380 bhp 4x4 cossie is 299 bhp per tonne - less power loss through transmission..
Differrant engines have differant power delivery so who knows if it will ever ever happen lol
But for instance i can keep a 380 bhp escos 4x4 of my tail from 30 - 130 no problems, but i have a car thats set up to do it. Its down to the power to weight ratio of the car....
With all the right parts for handling the power - quaife box, rose jointed adjustable arms etc mine will not loose traction at all.... unless wet of course lol.
if any one has seen the video on here of Andrew G focus at knockhill the caterhams are giving that car hell of good run.. with probably half the power, as its half the weight.
however a cossie will piss past me once 130 is reached and i cant catch it for shit.
my car is 300 bhp per tonne
a 380 bhp 4x4 cossie is 299 bhp per tonne - less power loss through transmission..
Differrant engines have differant power delivery so who knows if it will ever ever happen lol
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My 180 BHP rst has beaten many a Cossie around Combe and Donno over the years,a few of the owners are on this site,as are the witness's.The thing I've noticed about the Cossie is its all about straight line power,but it cant get around corners.Regards,Micky
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Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
can one say that above +/- 240bhp (if you think of the torque that usually comes with that) in a RS Turbo isnt a nice car to drive anymore, because of the wheelspin?
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Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
can one say that above +/- 240bhp (if you think of the torque that usually comes with that) in a RS Turbo isnt a nice car to drive anymore, because of the wheelspin?
I dont know about any higher bhp.. but il let you know with the new engine...
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by joo5ty
Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
can one say that above +/- 240bhp (if you think of the torque that usually comes with that) in a RS Turbo isnt a nice car to drive anymore, because of the wheelspin?
I dont know about any higher bhp.. but il let you know with the new engine...
Like you m4dyeti I have spent a fair few quid on the suspension side of things
Totally transforms the cars doesn't it
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Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by joo5ty
Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
can one say that above +/- 240bhp (if you think of the torque that usually comes with that) in a RS Turbo isnt a nice car to drive anymore, because of the wheelspin?
I dont know about any higher bhp.. but il let you know with the new engine...
Like you m4dyeti I have spent a fair few quid on the suspension side of things
Totally transforms the cars doesn't it
Certainly does, how is your zetec coming along mate - im just strting to purchase the main bits for mine..
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by joo5ty
Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
can one say that above +/- 240bhp (if you think of the torque that usually comes with that) in a RS Turbo isnt a nice car to drive anymore, because of the wheelspin?
I dont know about any higher bhp.. but il let you know with the new engine...
Like you m4dyeti I have spent a fair few quid on the suspension side of things
Totally transforms the cars doesn't it
Certainly does, how is your zetec coming along mate - im just strting to purchase the main bits for mine..
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Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by joo5ty
Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
can one say that above +/- 240bhp (if you think of the torque that usually comes with that) in a RS Turbo isnt a nice car to drive anymore, because of the wheelspin?
I dont know about any higher bhp.. but il let you know with the new engine...
Like you m4dyeti I have spent a fair few quid on the suspension side of things
Totally transforms the cars doesn't it
Certainly does, how is your zetec coming along mate - im just strting to purchase the main bits for mine..
excellant Cliff il bring a notepad too then lol
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
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it would also depend on if the cossie was 2 or 4wd, 2wd cossies are quicker thwn 4x4's.
i've had a few 200+ bhp escort turbos & a 300+ bhp 2wd cos would win hands down, 4x4 would struggle.
i've had a few 200+ bhp escort turbos & a 300+ bhp 2wd cos would win hands down, 4x4 would struggle.
down lanes sideways etc then 4x4 is faster
4x4 cosworth was for rallying, series2 rs turbo was for err i don't know
even though i have had them in every standard colour ford made them
my reply was for general use, people normally race on long straight roads in the dry, 4x4 has a big power loss compared to 2wd on a 300bhp cosworth, i wasn't talking about a rally stage in a storm
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
if both cars were full weight then IMO the cossie would still win i think the only way a rst would stand a chance if it was totally stripped of all its weight and the cossie wasn't....
i'm not into racing much tbh but i have not lost one yet i'm only running 390hp but evo's and skylines to rst's none have matched me yet, mine is by no means fast. But lets face it i owned a 200+hp fiesta and i sold it because the cosworth is a better car, it'll put the power down and feels alot stronger and happy on the road, the fiesta felt harsh and was violent... TBH i think my fiesta ran its nicest runnin 190hp,210lbft over 200hp in it just felt too much... just my 2pence
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sorry mate,, but the nova still has one real bad thing going against is
ITS A FUCKING NOVA
no matter how smart and no mater how much money shes got and if she lets her mates also join you for sex sessions,,,,,,, your mates are still gonna look at her and see shes fat
same with cars im afraid,,, nova is the rich fat girl scientist whos got fit mates,,,,, thats your car no matter what the rest is,,,, its a nova first
ITS A FUCKING NOVA
no matter how smart and no mater how much money shes got and if she lets her mates also join you for sex sessions,,,,,,, your mates are still gonna look at her and see shes fat
same with cars im afraid,,, nova is the rich fat girl scientist whos got fit mates,,,,, thats your car no matter what the rest is,,,, its a nova first
Not much more for most Saffs either.
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
my reply was for general use, people normally race on long straight roads in the dry, 4x4 has a big power loss compared to 2wd on a 300bhp cosworth, i wasn't talking about a rally stage in a storm
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Not going on an RST or a cossy.
But i drive a 202bhp starlet turbo and a Evo6 (standard) daily.
Power to weight theres nothing in them, but the Evo is much quicker.
Handles better, doesn't wheelspin, brakes better etc etc.
I'm sure this would be the case with the cossy and RST.
Which is more fun? A tough 1 as i've not done many miles in the Starbus, but i reckon it's more fun at the minute.
But i drive a 202bhp starlet turbo and a Evo6 (standard) daily.
Power to weight theres nothing in them, but the Evo is much quicker.
Handles better, doesn't wheelspin, brakes better etc etc.
I'm sure this would be the case with the cossy and RST.
Which is more fun? A tough 1 as i've not done many miles in the Starbus, but i reckon it's more fun at the minute.
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Originally Posted by ryan_belfast
well my 300bhp escort rs turbo was beaten by a 380bhp 4x4 sapphire cossie, not by a hell of a lot mind you but the sapphire was quicker...
The sapphire was never proven bhp but its guessed at around 380,it had one of stu's "off the shelf chips" an was running greys etc...
the rs turbo had problems getting power down in first, but in second with toyo R888s and on a dry day it gripped 100% with no wheelspin... the car was an animal to drive, always fun fun... you had to concentrate 100% of the time or else you would torque steer into a ditch lol...
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
Originally Posted by cozzfather
Originally Posted by GUZZLER
it would also depend on if the cossie was 2 or 4wd, 2wd cossies are quicker thwn 4x4's.
i've had a few 200+ bhp escort turbos & a 300+ bhp 2wd cos would win hands down, 4x4 would struggle.
i've had a few 200+ bhp escort turbos & a 300+ bhp 2wd cos would win hands down, 4x4 would struggle.
down lanes sideways etc then 4x4 is faster
4x4 cosworth was for rallying, series2 rs turbo was for err i don't know
even though i have had them in every standard colour ford made them
my reply was for general use, people normally race on long straight roads in the dry, 4x4 has a big power loss compared to 2wd on a 300bhp cosworth, i wasn't talking about a rally stage in a storm
i know what you mean Guzzle i would rather drive a 2wd in a
straight line, but show me bends,roundabouts, lanes, damp etc and
its 4x4 for me
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