Whats the best monitoring software for Cossies?
31-07-2007, 10:34 AM
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Whats the best monitoring software for Cossies?
Ive got a L6 ecu,and a laptop. I remember stu selling something that had graphs, datalogging etc.
Who was it made by? Any other good ones about?
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Who was it made by? Any other good ones about?
Cheers!
31-07-2007, 01:32 PM
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I thought that the L6 did not datasteam and this is the biggest issue to overcome, and this is why the Petel Monitor and Collins Monitor does not work on them
I think your choices are a SECS monitor or upgrading your ecu to L600 or better spec
I think your choices are a SECS monitor or upgrading your ecu to L600 or better spec
31-07-2007, 02:12 PM
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the software as sold by Stu is made by RP Labs and needs the ecu / chip to datastream the 'pectel' output - L6 as it is cannot do this as it does not have enough resources. as said, you need either an upgraded L600 or a L8
it is worth doing though, the monitoring and diagnostic software is awesome
it is worth doing though, the monitoring and diagnostic software is awesome
31-07-2007, 02:23 PM
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The RP software is superb.
SECS monitors do have a data stream output, I just never got around
making it available.
If someone fancies writing an application to use it, I will give out the
protocol freely although you will be limited to what the monitor itself
shows.
SECS monitors do have a data stream output, I just never got around
making it available.
If someone fancies writing an application to use it, I will give out the
protocol freely although you will be limited to what the monitor itself
shows.
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31-07-2007, 02:35 PM
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what language was used to write the software for the secs monitor ?
Just curious and interested in this area.
What do you consider to be the technical advantages of each product available for monitoring such as a collins monitor, pectel, rp labs, secs etc and what do you consider their weakness to be..
Just curious and interested in this area.
What do you consider to be the technical advantages of each product available for monitoring such as a collins monitor, pectel, rp labs, secs etc and what do you consider their weakness to be..
31-07-2007, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
what language was used to write the software for the secs monitor ?
Just curious and interested in this area.
What do you consider to be the technical advantages of each product available for monitoring such as a collins monitor, pectel, rp labs, secs etc and what do you consider their weakness to be..
Just curious and interested in this area.
What do you consider to be the technical advantages of each product available for monitoring such as a collins monitor, pectel, rp labs, secs etc and what do you consider their weakness to be..
I havent used the collins but as I understand its a pectel monitor WITHOUT
the data logging facility.
The RP software allows pretty pictures and much harddisk memory for logging.
This will also have more data items available over the secs/pectel/collins monitor.
The secs monitor measures the values independantly of the ecu which
is why it works on all variants without modification.
It records maximum value acheived and has outputs for alarm/water injection.
Pectel monitor is just too damn expensive
31-07-2007, 03:16 PM
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Nick,
An L8 is 95% an L6. (It doesnt have the lambda sensor input)
The factory L8 baby board added extra ram and more program memory.
Other than those two points, they are virtually identical.
An L8 is 95% an L6. (It doesnt have the lambda sensor input)
The factory L8 baby board added extra ram and more program memory.
Other than those two points, they are virtually identical.
31-07-2007, 03:45 PM
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simon - why are L6 known for burning the earth track but L8 not if they're basically the same? i also assume that as L8 has more hardware and functionality than L6 that it would be using and delivering more current?
31-07-2007, 05:43 PM
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foreigneRS,
There are differences in the PCB tracking to accomodate space for the
extra components. I can only assume the L6 tracking problems only
arose after it was released and fixed on the next version... The L8.
There are differences in the PCB tracking to accomodate space for the
extra components. I can only assume the L6 tracking problems only
arose after it was released and fixed on the next version... The L8.
31-07-2007, 06:24 PM
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JonnyBravo,
boost pressure, coolant temp, charge temp, battery voltage, rpm, boost duty,
injector duration, ignition advance, fault codes.
Probally forgotten something
boost pressure, coolant temp, charge temp, battery voltage, rpm, boost duty,
injector duration, ignition advance, fault codes.
Probally forgotten something
31-07-2007, 07:01 PM
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Cool, thought it may help knowing what it does as I have one sitting in my garage
I'm not familiar at all with Ford fault codes but I presume its a simple setup like the earlier non obd vauxhalls used ?
I'm not familiar at all with Ford fault codes but I presume its a simple setup like the earlier non obd vauxhalls used ?
31-07-2007, 07:08 PM
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It'll pretty much tell you what the error is from memory e.g. TDC sensor error, and how many errors it sees (e.g. 1 of 2)
Some late models also have oil pressure (and lambda I think?) but need a seperate sensor for oil pressure (think Damo V had one that did this).
Some late models also have oil pressure (and lambda I think?) but need a seperate sensor for oil pressure (think Damo V had one that did this).
31-07-2007, 07:19 PM
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Cool, similar to the vauxhall one then IF you had the tech 2 computer, I always flashed the faults out and checked the book but the Pectel sounds good if it actually displays the actual fault.
It would be nice to think that I wont need to use that function though
It would be nice to think that I wont need to use that function though
31-07-2007, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Billabong
It'll pretty much tell you what the error is from memory e.g. TDC sensor error, and how many errors it sees (e.g. 1 of 2)
Some late models also have oil pressure (and lambda I think?) but need a seperate sensor for oil pressure (think Damo V had one that did this).
Some late models also have oil pressure (and lambda I think?) but need a seperate sensor for oil pressure (think Damo V had one that did this).
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31-07-2007, 07:40 PM
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I've got the one Ryan had for sale which I suspect just does what a normal one did but its in a larger housing with a larger screen.
Definately going to have to try out the Rp Labs stuff although is it really required if your car has been live mapped already ?
I don't mind working on my car but mapping is something I prefer to leave to those that GENUINELLY know what there doing.
Everyone I know with Jap motors have gone mad for mapping their own cars which tbh I feel is a little risky ?
Definately going to have to try out the Rp Labs stuff although is it really required if your car has been live mapped already ?
I don't mind working on my car but mapping is something I prefer to leave to those that GENUINELLY know what there doing.
Everyone I know with Jap motors have gone mad for mapping their own cars which tbh I feel is a little risky ?
31-07-2007, 08:14 PM
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68332 thanks for the info
JonnyBravo the monitors and the software do not just tell you faults - they show live data that the ecu is reading from it's sensors so you can diagnose any problems while running or dataog for tuning or fault finding
JonnyBravo the monitors and the software do not just tell you faults - they show live data that the ecu is reading from it's sensors so you can diagnose any problems while running or dataog for tuning or fault finding
31-07-2007, 09:20 PM
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Jonny, you may be getting confused - there's the RP Lab's mapping/ECU conversion, which Mike sells, and there's the RP Lab's IAW monitor, which Stu is the UK agent for - two different things but from the same source company.
My car's been mapped, but I like having the Pectel monitor and other gauges just for piece of mind. It also instantly highlighted a couple of sensor faults when I had some issues a few years back, which saved arguing with the AA - you can't fix it, just send a low loader
My car's been mapped, but I like having the Pectel monitor and other gauges just for piece of mind. It also instantly highlighted a couple of sensor faults when I had some issues a few years back, which saved arguing with the AA - you can't fix it, just send a low loader
31-07-2007, 10:42 PM
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Your not wrong there, I was getting a little confused.
I only got the Pectel monitor as they are getting rarer and rather than try and source one when my car is finished (one day) I got one whilst I could.
No doubt I will get the chance to have a look at the Rp Labs software at some point
I only got the Pectel monitor as they are getting rarer and rather than try and source one when my car is finished (one day) I got one whilst I could.
No doubt I will get the chance to have a look at the Rp Labs software at some point
01-08-2007, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by T S M
We can still get pectel monitors brand new ,if you have an old monitor this can be upgraded to use on p8 and also upgraded to monitor egt fuel pressure and oil pressure
Dare I ask how much they charge to upgrage the unit though ?
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