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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Been thinking of getting my 6 month old pup some obediance training, he does the basics ie, sit, paw etc but can be bit of a handfull when being walked on his lead mainly for the misses as she finds it quite hard to walk him, anyone had classes for there dog and did it make much of a difference?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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in the middle of taking our 7 month old rottie pup at the minute and yeah it makes a difference but you gotta remember he aint gonna learn it in an hour a week session go in there with the mind set that they are teaching you to teach the dog n not teaching the dog for you, its all about practice at home and well worth it!!
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Cheers fella, how did you find your trainer ie recommended or just through net etc, do you go to trainer or do they come to yours, how long is your course for or do just keep going till you decide you wanna stop, also what sort of price should i expect to pay per hour, sorry for all the questions but wanna get as much info as poss
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we take ours to classes with lots of other doggies we paid £25 for the first 5 weeks then its 3 quid a session thereafter basically you stop going when all your aims for the dog are reached or you can keep going onto agility training etc
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Thanks again mate will google a local trainer to me
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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You should find a trainer through your vet's, most advertise at least 1 or 2.

As for the training, you'll find it's more about training the owner in how to train the dog. A lot of it seems like a waste of time, but it's good practice for when you need to actually teach it someting useful.

We took our pup and put her through the keenel club puppy foundation, then bronze, then silver programmes. 2 years on and she probably still remembers it all. It's said the first 18 months are the most important in a dog's life for learning things

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Cheers mate Had a read up and they mostly say its more about training the owner than the dog, will try ringing vets tomorrow to see if they can recommend a good one, gonna be tough though i think cause the dog is as dopey as they come
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I once got a 7 yr old german shepard bitch given that had been a gurad dog all her life and had never been on a lead, she was a total nightmre to lead train i ended up buying a halti it goes round the dogs head a bit like muzzle but the lead clips to the bottom of it and when they pull it pulls around there mouth it worked a treat within about 1 week i had her walking to heal without pulling then i just swapped the lead over to her collar but kept the halti on for a few weeks job sorted
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Any links mate? Are they sold in normal pet shops etc?
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HALTI-HEAD-COLLAR-BLACK-SIZE-1-WESTIE-JACK-RUSSELL_W0QQitemZ230147909363QQihZ013QQcategoryZ20 752QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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They are very good like, it turned what was basically a wild animal into a pefectly lead trained dog in just a couple of weeks
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Will order one tomorrow and see how i get on with that but think i will still try the obediance classes too
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Apart from the obedience benefits of dog training classes there is another major factor. The dog will be socialised with other dogs and also with other people, this is most important with a young dog and lack of socialisation can give rise to all sorts of behavioral problems as the dog gets older.

A word of warning if using a Halti, do not rely on it completely to control the dog. Despite the claims the manufacturers make for the product, it is all to easy for an intelligent dog to work out how to remove it. One of my German Shepherds did this within hours of it been fitted. You can imagine the consequenses if the dog slips the Halti when out and runs off into traffic or to chase something. I always use two leads when trainig on a Halti.

Trainging classes should be compulsory for all owners as it is usually the owners that need training more than the dogs.
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we have two 9 mth old husky pups and they pull like fuck(as its their job)
we tried a class with them and they were spot on in class!heeled,came to us etc but in the outside world they were back to normal, we now have an army trainer coming in to help us train them tbh its more about training you two before the dog.

oh and those holties are shit for our dogs.we use chain chockers and they still pull like mad.
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Be aware that some dogs won't accept a Halti however hard you try to get them accustomed to one.

There's no way my GSD will accept one.
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Originally Posted by sabres74
Apart from the obedience benefits of dog training classes there is another major factor. The dog will be socialised with other dogs and also with other people, this is most important with a young dog and lack of socialisation can give rise to all sorts of behavioral problems as the dog gets older.
That's a bloody good point

Try and get it used to other things too, like kids, busy high street's/shopping centres, walk it along main roads to get it used to the traffic, taking it in the car to the park rather than just when it goes to the vet's so it doesn't see the car as only leading to a bad place etc, etc, etc.

All these and the above will mean you'll have a much better dog when it gets older.

As for it being dopey, some dogs appear to be stupid, but the minute you put a treat under their nose they soon liven up a bit

Good luck!!!
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Apart from the obedience benefits of dog training classes there is another major factor. The dog will be socialised with other dogs and also with other people, this is most important with a young dog and lack of socialisation can give rise to all sorts of behavioral problems as the dog gets older
Dog is already socialised, goes to the local park near me where they have an area specifically for dogs to run around in at least once a day for an hour or so, always plenty of people and dogs there and has no problem with that,
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Be aware that some dogs won't accept a Halti however hard you try to get them accustomed to one.

There's no way my GSD will accept one.
I got one today but he hates it
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Apart from the obedience benefits of dog training classes there is another major factor. The dog will be socialised with other dogs and also with other people, this is most important with a young dog and lack of socialisation can give rise to all sorts of behavioral problems as the dog gets older.
That's a bloody good point

Try and get it used to other things too, like kids, busy high street's/shopping centres, walk it along main roads to get it used to the traffic, taking it in the car to the park rather than just when it goes to the vet's so it doesn't see the car as only leading to a bad place etc, etc, etc.

All these and the above will mean you'll have a much better dog when it gets older.

As for it being dopey, some dogs appear to be stupid, but the minute you put a treat under their nose they soon liven up a bit

Good luck!!!
He is great with my 2 kids and mates kids etc, gets walked up to local shop near busy roads too, and loves being in the van, i take him to the park in van most times, as for the dopey bit as far as im aware thats just the breed until they get to about 12-18 months (American Bulldog)
Thanks to all for info
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if he hates the halti try putting it on and feeding him small treats though it he will soon love putting the damn thing on lol
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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if he hates the halti try putting it on and feeding him small treats though it he will soon love putting the damn thing on lol
Not always... trust me
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