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Old 28-06-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Noble M12 pistons???

Anyone know what they are? They have 'Ford' stamped into them... Need one!
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V6 mondeo engine isnt it? with two turbos stuck on
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
V6 mondeo engine isnt it? with two turbos stuck on
so they are standard ford mondeo pistons?

doubt it
Old 28-06-2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
V6 mondeo engine isnt it? with two turbos stuck on
so they are standard ford mondeo pistons?

doubt it
They had better not be as Noble want 2k for a set
Old 28-06-2007, 02:57 PM
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yeah they are mondeo engines not sure what varient though
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well i know the engine was from the mondeo, and they have ford stamped on them

M12 GTO MR is; 6 cyls ine veee, 2968cc, twin turbochargers; 352 bhp at 6200rpm; compression ratio 8:5:1; bore/stroke 89/79.5.
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Well if its 8.5:1 then they arent standard mondeo pistons!

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Old 28-06-2007, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Well if its 8.5:1 then they arent standard mondeo pistons!
Second and skimmed Calibra Turbo ones like ZVHs i reckon
Old 28-06-2007, 03:09 PM
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lol, it may have started life as a 'mondeo engine' but im pretty sure 'mondeo' pistons dont run twin turbos and a cr of 8:5:1
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all the info i can find says its an extensively modified duratec v6, maybe its not standard pistons but ford must make them or do they decompress it in other ways?
makes me wonder if jag used the similar engine in the supercharged cars when they were ford owned they must have run a lower c/r
Old 28-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
makes me wonder if jag used the similar engine in the supercharged cars when they were ford owned they must have run a lower c/r
The unit, which in base form also powers certain Jaguar cars


also...

Internally, the engine has been modified with higher-lift cams and forged, rather than cast pistons, for extra strength.
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what a guess
Old 28-06-2007, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
what a guess
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
makes me wonder if jag used the similar engine in the supercharged cars when they were ford owned they must have run a lower c/r
Err, all supercharged Jags were V8s or straight 6s. No V6 mongao engines, they were just in the n/a X-Types.
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i only guessed
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Wouldn't surprise me if the were standard pistons and a spacer plate was used to lower the c/r and / or they lopped the pistons .
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the v12 astons under ford ownership, was based around the mondeo v6 build, just doubled up
Old 28-06-2007, 05:34 PM
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Did Nobles in Chesterfield not have something to do with this engine?


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Old 28-06-2007, 05:42 PM
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next time your up at bruntingphorpe try and see if you can have a word with one of the waltons who own the site i know they've bought three crashed nobles to make one good one so they might have some engine parts going spare.
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Originally Posted by xrmalin
martin-reyland
next time your up at bruntingphorpe try and see if you can have a word with one of the waltons who own the site i know they've bought three crashed nobles to make one good one so they might have some engine parts going spare.

Thanks for that
Old 28-06-2007, 05:52 PM
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martin cant you just whip in a cossie piston must have afew laying around
Old 28-06-2007, 09:37 PM
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mike gurney might be worth a try, as im sure he knows a little about nobles now
Old 28-06-2007, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Wouldn't surprise me if the were standard pistons and a spacer plate was used to lower the c/r and / or they lopped the pistons .
il second that lol!! no numbers on them then? had a proper good look inside the skirt?
Old 29-06-2007, 08:00 AM
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Martin, speak to Roush/Mountune as I think they do the builds/rebuilds on these for Noble.
Old 29-06-2007, 08:06 AM
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im sure i read these are mahle pistons some where, cant for the life of me think were now though,

gotta be worth a ring though,
or try cosworth, being a duratec engine, im sure thy make some for them now
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