bigbobby

Dannn

You keep calling them VICTIMS i think were the victims having to read your bull shit.

Dannn

How much do you consider every penny?

Would you buy one, if so what would YOU pay for it ?

Out of interest, forgotting the alleged values of the cars invloved. Would you swap you Escort for a non Evo RS200 ? (I don't think you would as your escort is a better car!)

It's Czech Mate

Dannnnnnnnnnn just because no-one has come to you on this webiste and spoon fed you information on how much they paid doesnt mean it doesnt happen

This website doesnt encompass the whole Ford world or anything like it..despite being a cracking website

Once again i'll point out that what you 'reckon' means fuck all and has little influence on what actually happens!

Dannn

Tell you what, tell my why the rs200 is such a good car, I take it you know lots about them ? Tell us why you would own own ? Tell us the difference between the EVO and NON EVO models ?

Personally I think anyone that pays over £50K (even that in my eyes is way too much money) for a non EVO rs200 is a victim.

I also don't feel there is many people who would actually buy one even if they had the money.

You see I have an opinion but most people on PF give it large without actually expressing their own.

Less.

Was one sold on here a about 3 years ago for 50k

so if you can get one for 30k i will est my rs2000 (if the rust dont eat it first)

It's Czech Mate

Group B racing as it was then allowed for 20 Evolution models from the homologated model to be of an up-rated spec and Ford responded by producing the RS200 Evolution.

They were destined to be chassis 201 > 220 and FORD had around 40 2.1L BDT "E" motors ready but as Group B was stopped, FORD decided not to produce an extra 20 cars but to use some of the original remaining 1.8 cars.

They took 20 cars from the warehouse of remaining vehicles:-

Chassis 012, 070, 071, 081, 083, 084, 086, 087, 096, 097, 098, 099, 101, 105, 106, 145, 146, 153, 168, 174

... and set them to be EVO'd. (Chassis 12 was already the EVO prototype)

Having read old RS200 Owners Club newsletters, a further four cars were built from new as Evolutions after the 20:-

Chassis Numbered 020, 089, 161 and 182.

...... it is probably best to refer to them as "Factory 2.1 EVO versions" - In some way even rarer I suppose !

They set aside chassis numbers 201 > 220 to be the evolution cars.

The relationship was planned to be:-

201=012 202=146 203=174 204=087 205=097 206=098 207=099 208=145 209=081 210=153 211=101 212=168 213=070 214=084 215=105 216=106 217=096 218=083 219=071 220=086

These vehicles were then sent out to be upgraded which included a new engine, this time a 2.1 litre. This needed a new block as the walls were too think to handle this extra sized bore. That meant new heads which meant the ports had moved which required all new associated inlet parts, the chassis had to be slightly cut to fit the longer engine and there is a cut out of the firewall between driving compartment and the engine bay which is where the distributor sits, this has a removable panel so you can access it from the inside of the car for adjustment etc

When the cars returned there was no need to allocate the intended 201 onwards range of numbers so they kept their original VIN plates although Bob Howe is sure at least one slipped out with a VIN plate in excess of the figure 200 although the newsletters suggest NONE did so

Dannn

As you are not actually the buyer or seller or an rs200 then forgive me if I don't value what you have to say really .

It's Czech Mate

Do you KNOW i havent brokered a deal?

Nope

Dannn

You cunt - that question was for someone else to prove a point and you have stepped in and answered it for him....

bigbobby

Thats because im part of the CROWD

Dannn

No - your like a lot of people on PF who don't really have an opinion and just follow what the masses say to be part of the crowd and then have the fucking nerve to dish out some insults.

Is the reason you don't have opinions because your a thick cunt ?

Less.

not following the masses see a non veo rs200 sell for 50k

bigbobby

I do have opinions thats why i called you a twat. You will now be ignored as im much higher up the pecking order than you.

Dannn

Your probably right - I give you that!

Less.

and theres me right at the bottom of the pecking order

bigbobby

What you doing out the muppet room?

Dannn

Less,

Your see them for sell for a lot more than that. The question is do they really sell for that kind of money, I personally don't think they do - if one does then I would say its a rare occasion.

dan

Less.

they might not sell for the exact price pf say 50k but cant see em selling for 30k

i popped out the muppet room just for this thread

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

thats a lot cheeper than the one i saw last year at RON HODGSON'S
sports car garage,his was 100 grand,them cars were for sale by ford
for 50 grand around 1988,ford couldn't sell them
but in rallycross they kicked the arses of allcomers,
the fella in my sig did it best,he kicked pat dorans arse and he had
a rs200 too,and he kicked Teir Schie and he had a 205 T16 E2
WATCH MY LINK AND YOU CAN SEE+HEAR A RS200 EVOLUTION

Less.

remember seeing martin scanche (spl) at lydden hill in his rs200 pure class

It's Czech Mate

Of course its a 'rare' occasion

They only made 150 all up, with 24 EVO's from the factory

Its not like selling a £7k saff on here

ryan_belfast

Right right.... ladies ladies...

come on now....



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cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

Iirc the amount of evo rs200's was very low
i have seen SUE COLLINS race hers(evo rs200) against Paul Bailey
and the noise it makes is the best.
they are the ultimate RS imo


never seen a rs200 evo beat all the other crap group b cars?
watch it beat will gollop(6r4 bi turbo) into the lead.
the guy's a legend and so is the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjQY...elated&search=

Physio

One of the most ugliest cars ever built!!

I dont know why people cum in their pants when they see one

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

i don't think what it looks like matters,it was built to rally, it did and
as soon as it started winning it was banned.
martin schanche adapted one for european ra11ycross and it
became a winner
they look ok, but in competition they did the bizzo
they also caught fire real good,were very hot inside and as a
road car were capable of conking out regularly

Matt

i bet this peenarse thinks mk2 escorts are shit at rallying too!
can you not see the ford heritage in this benchmarking group b legend or were you just a little bit too young
as for value anything is worth what somebody is willing to pay

banhambuilt

i have just wasted my time reading about a guy with issues

grow up you cock

dave

Dannn

Matt,

Out of interest why do you start your post buy calling me a "peenarse". I would have thought you would be the last person on here to follow the masses. Why not just give your opinion etc without it.......

I think MK2 Escort are proper - more respect for them than an RS200. I would happily own one, perhaps I will one day.

LOL @ Benchmarking group b legend - fook off - your joking - why don't you tells why its a "benchmarking group b legend" ?

Little too young - think I am acutally older than you Matt.

I agree "anything is worth what somebody is willing to pay" and in this case I don't feel many will pay £70K for it.

Dan

Dannn

Issues because I have an opinion that is different to most on here.

Your the one with issues driving round in a fake car - COCK!

Matt

peenarse is a quote in a film i like that seemed quire apt at the point of reply, nowt more
i dont follow any masses, anyone who knows me will tell you this, im not one to pull any punches or not speak my mind
as for age, dunno pal, im 33, but i remember the rs200 20 years go, you dont come across like you do hence the age comment

"I would have thought you would be the last person on here to follow the masses. Why not just give your opinion etc without it......."

i did, why do you think i didnt?

SS1

iTrader: (3)

Dannn

Not really!!

btw - I'm 33 in a couple weeks so we are more or less the same age - (btw "pal"l got a feeling we may have even met many moons ago!)

Dannn

Matt

ive met lots of people off here over the years PAL

Robski

2 RS200's(evo s) came up for sale recentley,both 100k plus,one sold in 2 days,the other took a few days longer to shift . Some people in here just don't understand the value of these cars and try and compare them with the current mass produced jap crap rally derived type style cars that are available at any Autotrader website and have the residual value of a Proton! The one that is for sale in this link will sell for sure and won't lose the new owner money!....but some people in heRe just won't be convinced!
If i had the space and the money to buy one knowing that it wasn't an everyday car and would only be used occasionally,then i'd happily part with my cash.......i was seriously tempted at one last year that was going for around the 50k mark......but for me having 50k invested in a car when it could be used on properties was too mnuch 4 me......if i was richer,it wouldnt have been an issue.........maybe one day.....

david

Dann at 70k its an investment at least for someone, maybe not the most profitable but still a sure bet.

As for not being part of the 'in crowd' its all about how much you want to put in to get back out

I personally dont think there is such a thing on here. I dont post that often but people are always helpful if ive asked something and have met many good folk from here too.

And expect to get ribbed, thats life.

RS200Babe

Hi Peeps

I have been to see the Rs200 in question more out of interest and sod all else to do on a rainy sunday.
This car is a very good example of a 200+
The interior has been very well trimmed in grey leather inc the dash and looks quite stunning..
Unfortunately as with many 200+ cars it is not entirely legit.
Panels dont necessarily line up odds and sods missing and the odd non original RS200 part.
But having said that it is still a very nice car.
£70K????
No wayyyyyy. More like £30K - £40K
For a totally original Rs200 with some good history I would defo pay anything from around £50K - £70K
But alas......I`m skint lol

Everyone has theire preferences for choosing theire favourite car to own
and good luck to anyone who gets to live the dream.
There will always be faults and reasons why people dislike and prefer different cars ...but hey....who gives a flyin fook.
Work hard, play hard...enjoy