who makes rs turbo downpipes for cossie turbos?
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22-06-2007, 06:58 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by smitsturbo
i think jamsport still do them for £120 or something 
how fucking much
do you know how much exhausts cost to actually make
we buy FULL exhaust systems for most cars INCLUDING CATS and sell them for just over that
hell a FULL 1.8 escort exhaust system including cat i sell at 85 quid
theres not a metre of stainless there and its BENT on a pipe bender and they charge that
or if its tig welded the its gonna cost MAX 40 quid to get done
fuck me the performace game rips people off
22-06-2007, 07:52 PM
#16
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mate,,,, what ever people charge we need to look at WHAT OTHERS SELL THEM FOR !!!
i work for one of the BIGGEST exhaust distributers in the country and so i get to know what others pay for them
150 quid is alot,,,, if a company is selling them them and there SERIOUS then i can get them made in batches for a decent amout of cash
they could be sold at 80 quid for a profit,,, though i doubt these companys belive it working for a 35% margin i guess
rick would yopu like me to supply you with 4ins dimeter pipes of mild steel in 2 meter lenths,,, less than 30 quid too mate
stainless ok thats more cash i agree,,, but if you buy it right its not a issue
my boss started hes business in his dads shed back in the 70's and selling them at hes prices hes built up a business of over 16 branches and STILL growing and hes never turned up for work for the last 5 years
imagine if he had people who was willing to pay that for them
ok things are worth what someone is willing to pay,,,, but i NOW know what things cost to make,,,, mlr head gaskets less than 10quid
cossie headgaskets LESS THAN 5 QUID !!!
the cossie headgasket costs the same to make as a vauxhall cavalier,,, they are made at 500 orders at a time and one of em sells for 13 quid the other at 75 quid
the rover K series head gasket cost in total over 3 million to redesign over time to solve the problem with them,,, due to that its a very expensive gasket and sold for 90 quid with the extra shim
how much is wrc one,,, made of the same material
sorry but we are being ripped of people
thats why the vaux boys do better than us at totb,, the price of parts is alot less !!!
i work for one of the BIGGEST exhaust distributers in the country and so i get to know what others pay for them
150 quid is alot,,,, if a company is selling them them and there SERIOUS then i can get them made in batches for a decent amout of cash
they could be sold at 80 quid for a profit,,, though i doubt these companys belive it working for a 35% margin i guess
rick would yopu like me to supply you with 4ins dimeter pipes of mild steel in 2 meter lenths,,, less than 30 quid too mate
stainless ok thats more cash i agree,,, but if you buy it right its not a issue
my boss started hes business in his dads shed back in the 70's and selling them at hes prices hes built up a business of over 16 branches and STILL growing and hes never turned up for work for the last 5 years
imagine if he had people who was willing to pay that for them
ok things are worth what someone is willing to pay,,,, but i NOW know what things cost to make,,,, mlr head gaskets less than 10quid
cossie headgaskets LESS THAN 5 QUID !!!
the cossie headgasket costs the same to make as a vauxhall cavalier,,, they are made at 500 orders at a time and one of em sells for 13 quid the other at 75 quid
the rover K series head gasket cost in total over 3 million to redesign over time to solve the problem with them,,, due to that its a very expensive gasket and sold for 90 quid with the extra shim
how much is wrc one,,, made of the same material
sorry but we are being ripped of people
thats why the vaux boys do better than us at totb,, the price of parts is alot less !!!
22-06-2007, 07:54 PM
#17
just finding my feet
anyone that can be bothered to make them i can supply the metal and i can prob get it delivered to you aswell anywhere in the country
serious offer,,, im gonna check out the prices aswell as the bendy pipes we got too as we got that in stainless for truck jobs
serious offer,,, im gonna check out the prices aswell as the bendy pipes we got too as we got that in stainless for truck jobs
22-06-2007, 08:06 PM
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Ginge, i'm with u all the way - but it's a supply and demmand thing isn't it - u pay for one off's, and the time it takes someone to develop it.
One of the reasons i have the s2 though, is it's so cheap to run. Remember the other day, u said that 3 years is the avetage life of a bearing? I thought - bollocks, mine have lasted me double that!
Anyway, this morning my back one suddenly started to drone
Went to Unipart, got a new bearing kit for £6.19. Installed in 20 mins - job done, cheap motoring 
.
One of the reasons i have the s2 though, is it's so cheap to run. Remember the other day, u said that 3 years is the avetage life of a bearing? I thought - bollocks, mine have lasted me double that!
Anyway, this morning my back one suddenly started to drone
Went to Unipart, got a new bearing kit for £6.19. Installed in 20 mins - job done, cheap motoring .
22-06-2007, 08:08 PM
#20
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abs all you need to do is make a 90 degree bend about 2.5 ins on the inside of the bend from the turbo housing and then follow in straight down like the original erst exhaust goes and its made,,,,, its that simple mate that ANYONE can make one,,, you DONT need a jig made for it,,, that just makes em get tacked together in 10mins and then tig weld um up and 20 mins later you have 170 quid,,,, thats 340 quid per hour
22-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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Ginge !
its a custom pipe work so its going to cost no matter what. it all depends if he is using a cosworth back ex housing and wants to reduce down to his 2"/half ex .and another thing is it looks alot better if its made all one pieac and if he is happy with crapy hydrolic bends or proper madril bends that dont reduce as it sweps round on its bend makes a diffrence so if you add it all up the welding wire and the gas and the bends and time £150 is not alot of money at all my price has just gone up
its a custom pipe work so its going to cost no matter what. it all depends if he is using a cosworth back ex housing and wants to reduce down to his 2"/half ex .and another thing is it looks alot better if its made all one pieac and if he is happy with crapy hydrolic bends or proper madril bends that dont reduce as it sweps round on its bend makes a diffrence so if you add it all up the welding wire and the gas and the bends and time £150 is not alot of money at all my price has just gone up
22-06-2007, 09:04 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Rick
Ginge, i'm with u all the way - but it's a supply and demmand thing isn't it - u pay for one off's, and the time it takes someone to develop it.
One of the reasons i have the s2 though, is it's so cheap to run. Remember the other day, u said that 3 years is the avetage life of a bearing? I thought - bollocks, mine have lasted me double that!
Anyway, this morning my back one suddenly started to drone Went to Unipart, got a new bearing kit for £6.19. Installed in 20 mins - job done, cheap motoring .
One of the reasons i have the s2 though, is it's so cheap to run. Remember the other day, u said that 3 years is the avetage life of a bearing? I thought - bollocks, mine have lasted me double that!
Anyway, this morning my back one suddenly started to drone
Went to Unipart, got a new bearing kit for £6.19. Installed in 20 mins - job done, cheap motoring .
who was it made by ?, skf, autex ?
wanna know who else there selling
22-06-2007, 09:06 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by abdr500
Ginge !
its a custom pipe work so its going to cost no matter what. it all depends if he is using a cosworth back ex housing and wants to reduce down to his 2"/half ex .and another thing is it looks alot better if its made all one pieac and if he is happy with crapy hydrolic bends or proper madril bends that dont reduce as it sweps round on its bend makes a diffrence so if you add it all up the welding wire and the gas and the bends and time £150 is not alot of money at all my price has just gone up
its a custom pipe work so its going to cost no matter what. it all depends if he is using a cosworth back ex housing and wants to reduce down to his 2"/half ex .and another thing is it looks alot better if its made all one pieac and if he is happy with crapy hydrolic bends or proper madril bends that dont reduce as it sweps round on its bend makes a diffrence so if you add it all up the welding wire and the gas and the bends and time £150 is not alot of money at all my price has just gone up
i do understand what you say to a point... but i KNOW i can get them made cheeper,,,, you charge more ok
but theres actual companys like walker, bm,euro flow and then if you feel rich bosal who make them fo a living and they can also do them for one offs cheeper as thats what they do all day long
22-06-2007, 09:18 PM
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plus the rest
just buy a pipe of jamsport its easyer
plus the rest
just buy a pipe of jamsport its easyer
22-06-2007, 09:22 PM
#25
they dont do stainless in bosal book
3 inch 316 stainless bends are around £30 each to buy 4 inch are £40
flange fitting laser cut are around £60
band clamp kits for gt turbos are £120 complete on there own
so £120 for a down pipe is cheap
it cost me over £600 to make my exhaust in parts alown not including my labour which was around 30 hrs
3 inch 316 stainless bends are around £30 each to buy 4 inch are £40
flange fitting laser cut are around £60
band clamp kits for gt turbos are £120 complete on there own
so £120 for a down pipe is cheap
it cost me over £600 to make my exhaust in parts alown not including my labour which was around 30 hrs
22-06-2007, 09:34 PM
#26
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brom is the jamsport one A stainless,,,, B 3ins and C
BOSAL ARE FOOKING EXPENSIVE
try timax next time,, though they also dont do stainless im afraid
i can get it though if i need it from one of out suppliers
BOSAL ARE FOOKING EXPENSIVE
try timax next time,, though they also dont do stainless im afraid
i can get it though if i need it from one of out suppliers
22-06-2007, 10:07 PM
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Thats the shitty downpipe I have on mine, and its cracked for the 2nd time, I do have a 90 degree mandrel bend that is going to be fabricated onto the flange etc for me, but a one off complete piece would be better
This is the pipe I have got to be "attached"
22-06-2007, 10:13 PM
#30
just finding my feet
stu you thought aboout fitting a mount to the front part of the exhaust like the xr3i's have and ease the presure
and getting a better welder too might help as he cant be getting it to the right temp i would guess
and getting a better welder too might help as he cant be getting it to the right temp i would guess
22-06-2007, 10:16 PM
#32
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The first time it was done (on pic) was basically the previous owner, and the amount of bodges we found its surprising he didnt use sellotape..
the 2nd time really was just a "quick fix" to get me to APT RR day
More thought will be going into it this time, with the "support" you talk about, but if you can get costs down, I think you have some money to be made with the one off moulded piece!
Certainly food for thought!
the 2nd time really was just a "quick fix" to get me to APT RR day
More thought will be going into it this time, with the "support" you talk about, but if you can get costs down, I think you have some money to be made with the one off moulded piece!
Certainly food for thought!
22-06-2007, 10:18 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Roosie
sorry stu that looks pony
LOL
It does have exhaust wrap on now to hide the "shit" LOL
But obviously after a more reliable solution now...
22-06-2007, 10:23 PM
#34
just finding my feet
stu if welded right they it wouldnt crack,, though that bend is a little awkward to be fair and not a good idea
the bend looks proper nice though has to be said
the bend looks proper nice though has to be said
22-06-2007, 10:34 PM
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last effort by prev owner, not gonna open a can of worms so well end that there..
Got the new bit for £25 of the bay from some metal dude, looks really good workmanship tbh, although getting the angle right might be tricky..
heres what happened 1st time
It ripped when I removed it from the car, I was giving it some love
Got the new bit for £25 of the bay from some metal dude, looks really good workmanship tbh, although getting the angle right might be tricky..
heres what happened 1st time
It ripped when I removed it from the car, I was giving it some love
theres a pic of the jamsport down pipe on the left