Turbos.. T4 vs GT35
14-06-2007, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by boosthappy1
I thought that 37 psi on a T4 with ALS and LC would of kept you amused longer than a week. 
I actually like the sound of Mikes T4, it will certainly be a nicely presented package as far as fitment goes. External gating presents a load of horrible challenges which i personally think will be a bit of a shame on your car.
However, its all about what YOU want Steve, so give me a shout when you get time and lets bolt something a little bigger on mate.
14-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by boosthappy1
I thought that 37 psi on a T4 with ALS and LC would of kept you amused longer than a week.
I actually like the sound of Mikes T4, it will certainly be a nicely presented package as far as fitment goes. External gating presents a load of horrible challenges which i personally think will be a bit of a shame on your car.
However, its all about what YOU want Steve, so give me a shout when you get time and lets bolt something a little bigger on mate.
stop encouraging him , this is the longest he has had a car that actually goes well and works for a while 
14-06-2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
this is the longest he has had a car that actually goes well and works for a while
Mind you, he told me he sold it to some Tw@ who ripped it to bits!!*
*Hoping i remember the story right now...
14-06-2007, 11:05 PM
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you mean this wee beastie??
She is currently sat on my drive minus 2 driveshafts and a front diff, but is now sporting a T5 for proper wheel drive
and has a couple of snags to fix, loose ex manifold+blowing gaskets , need a decent mount for the T5 box in the 4x4 shell, waiting for a bit off ford for that, and a few bits like a heatsheild etc, then its good to go 
38PSI of T4 , but i'm sure you remember that - sure you will make it's aquaintance again soon when it gets ALS and LC
She is currently sat on my drive minus 2 driveshafts and a front diff, but is now sporting a T5 for proper wheel drive
and has a couple of snags to fix, loose ex manifold+blowing gaskets , need a decent mount for the T5 box in the 4x4 shell, waiting for a bit off ford for that, and a few bits like a heatsheild etc, then its good to go 38PSI of T4 , but i'm sure you remember that - sure you will make it's aquaintance again soon when it gets ALS and LC
14-06-2007, 11:14 PM
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only things missing are the big brakes that ste had back, and a poxy 4x4 drivetrain, now a Real wheel drive car, going to have to sort a brom beam though as I don't think a 7" diff is going to put up a fight for long
Although I do have a 25/26mm ported head , a BD 16 inlet and 14 exhaust cam and a GT35 sat in my bedroom looking quite bored
must resist
Although I do have a 25/26mm ported head , a BD 16 inlet and 14 exhaust cam and a GT35 sat in my bedroom looking quite bored
must resist
14-06-2007, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
only things missing are the big brakes that ste had back, and a poxy 4x4 drivetrain, now a Real wheel drive car, going to have to sort a brom beam though as I don't think a 7" diff is going to put up a fight for long
Although I do have a 25/26mm ported head , a BD 16 inlet and 14 exhaust cam and a GT35 sat in my bedroom looking quite bored must resist
Although I do have a 25/26mm ported head , a BD 16 inlet and 14 exhaust cam and a GT35 sat in my bedroom looking quite bored
must resist GT35 eh?... and Steve's been offered a deal on one eh?
14-06-2007, 11:23 PM
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shhhhh mate, I think I have more cossie bits in my room than Paul and pete put together got 8 rondell 122's in the loft , a long studded 200 block , WRC head, H section rods, GT35, WRC manifold, 2 x cranks, about a million autometer guages, a P8 super 8 ALS, 2 sets of greens, 2 x escort cossie front spoliers, 3x cam covers, a brand new saff front bumper, a rouse sport rear spoiler and bootlid, ............. and that is just off the top of my head....
Not to mention in my front room the pile of bits for the escos, AP 362mm 6 pots, a thickwall front diff, Adj TCA's + poly bushes, a T38 turbo, full engine rebuild kit, ANOTHER 200 long studded block and loads and loads of other bits and bobs ..... shocking....
oh and a spare saff, behind the silver one
mate, I think I have more cossie bits in my room than Paul and pete put together got 8 rondell 122's in the loft , a long studded 200 block , WRC head, H section rods, GT35, WRC manifold, 2 x cranks, about a million autometer guages, a P8 super 8 ALS, 2 sets of greens, 2 x escort cossie front spoliers, 3x cam covers, a brand new saff front bumper, a rouse sport rear spoiler and bootlid, ............. and that is just off the top of my head.... Not to mention in my front room the pile of bits for the escos, AP 362mm 6 pots, a thickwall front diff, Adj TCA's + poly bushes, a T38 turbo, full engine rebuild kit, ANOTHER 200 long studded block
and loads and loads of other bits and bobs ..... shocking.... oh and a spare saff, behind the silver one
14-06-2007, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
shhhhh mate, I think I have more cossie bits in my room than Paul and pete put together got 8 rondell 122's in the loft , a long studded 200 block , WRC head, H section rods, GT35, WRC manifold, 2 x cranks, about a million autometer guages, a P8 super 8 ALS, 2 sets of greens, 2 x escort cossie front spoliers, 3x cam covers, a brand new saff front bumper, a rouse sport rear spoiler and bootlid, ............. and that is just off the top of my head....
Not to mention in my front room the pile of bits for the escos, AP 362mm 6 pots, a thickwall front diff, Adj TCA's + poly bushes, a T38 turbo, full engine rebuild kit, ANOTHER 200 long studded block and loads and loads of other bits and bobs ..... shocking....
oh and a spare saff, behind the silver one
mate, I think I have more cossie bits in my room than Paul and pete put together got 8 rondell 122's in the loft , a long studded 200 block , WRC head, H section rods, GT35, WRC manifold, 2 x cranks, about a million autometer guages, a P8 super 8 ALS, 2 sets of greens, 2 x escort cossie front spoliers, 3x cam covers, a brand new saff front bumper, a rouse sport rear spoiler and bootlid, ............. and that is just off the top of my head.... Not to mention in my front room the pile of bits for the escos, AP 362mm 6 pots, a thickwall front diff, Adj TCA's + poly bushes, a T38 turbo, full engine rebuild kit, ANOTHER 200 long studded block
and loads and loads of other bits and bobs ..... shocking.... oh and a spare saff, behind the silver one
14-06-2007, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by aduz
Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
shhhhh mate, I think I have more cossie bits in my room than Paul and pete put together got 8 rondell 122's in the loft , a long studded 200 block , WRC head, H section rods, GT35, WRC manifold, 2 x cranks, about a million autometer guages, a P8 super 8 ALS, 2 sets of greens, 2 x escort cossie front spoliers, 3x cam covers, a brand new saff front bumper, a rouse sport rear spoiler and bootlid, ............. and that is just off the top of my head....
Not to mention in my front room the pile of bits for the escos, AP 362mm 6 pots, a thickwall front diff, Adj TCA's + poly bushes, a T38 turbo, full engine rebuild kit, ANOTHER 200 long studded block and loads and loads of other bits and bobs ..... shocking....
oh and a spare saff, behind the silver one
mate, I think I have more cossie bits in my room than Paul and pete put together got 8 rondell 122's in the loft , a long studded 200 block , WRC head, H section rods, GT35, WRC manifold, 2 x cranks, about a million autometer guages, a P8 super 8 ALS, 2 sets of greens, 2 x escort cossie front spoliers, 3x cam covers, a brand new saff front bumper, a rouse sport rear spoiler and bootlid, ............. and that is just off the top of my head.... Not to mention in my front room the pile of bits for the escos, AP 362mm 6 pots, a thickwall front diff, Adj TCA's + poly bushes, a T38 turbo, full engine rebuild kit, ANOTHER 200 long studded block
and loads and loads of other bits and bobs ..... shocking.... oh and a spare saff, behind the silver one
15-06-2007, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Fagin
People seem to underestimate the GT30.
I'm running a GT30 hybrid core in a standard bolt on fit (yes you heard lol) housing on my Sccob currently. 1bar at 2700-2800rpm, full boost (1.5bar) at 3000rpm. 480bhp @ Fly at only 1.38bar boost (was on a hub dyno the other day and got 395 ATW) due to not having a strong enough actuator. This core will run 2bar all day, go figure what it would be capable of at this boost level (it made just under 400bhp at 1bar).
I am about to bang a different core in (but still a GT30 hybrid) and wind the boost up. The aim is to have the same response as present and make about 550bhp on pump fuel...... this will still be using a GT30 type core.
Plenty of life in a quick response GT30 Hybrid turbo me thinks.
I'm running a GT30 hybrid core in a standard bolt on fit (yes you heard lol) housing on my Sccob currently. 1bar at 2700-2800rpm, full boost (1.5bar) at 3000rpm. 480bhp @ Fly at only 1.38bar boost (was on a hub dyno the other day and got 395 ATW) due to not having a strong enough actuator. This core will run 2bar all day, go figure what it would be capable of at this boost level (it made just under 400bhp at 1bar).
I am about to bang a different core in (but still a GT30 hybrid) and wind the boost up. The aim is to have the same response as present and make about 550bhp on pump fuel...... this will still be using a GT30 type core.
Plenty of life in a quick response GT30 Hybrid turbo me thinks.
. Would you like to remind the viewers what capacity your car is compared to a Cosworth? 
15-06-2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by boosthappy1
I thought that 37 psi on a T4 with ALS and LC would of kept you amused longer than a week.
I actually like the sound of Mikes T4, it will certainly be a nicely presented package as far as fitment goes. External gating presents a load of horrible challenges which i personally think will be a bit of a shame on your car.
However, its all about what YOU want Steve, so give me a shout when you get time and lets bolt something a little bigger on mate.
Im supprised you want to get in the car with me again after nearly dropping the laptop down the back roads And also you notice this post goes up on a thursday night
15-06-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 4x4 ste
You know me so well Im supprised you want to get in the car with me again after nearly dropping the laptop down the back roads
And also you notice this post goes up on a thursday night
Im supprised you want to get in the car with me again after nearly dropping the laptop down the back roads And also you notice this post goes up on a thursday night
Actually, i hadnt noticed, but now you come to mention it...
15-06-2007, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Doh, you didnt pull it to bits? That fooked my joke didnt it?
Be nice to see her again, its a great car.
That fooked my joke didnt it? Be nice to see her again, its a great car.
Yes the girly 4x4 one
15-06-2007, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Fagin
People seem to underestimate the GT30.
I'm running a GT30 hybrid core in a standard bolt on fit (yes you heard lol) housing on my Sccob currently. 1bar at 2700-2800rpm, full boost (1.5bar) at 3000rpm. 480bhp @ Fly at only 1.38bar boost (was on a hub dyno the other day and got 395 ATW) due to not having a strong enough actuator. This core will run 2bar all day, go figure what it would be capable of at this boost level (it made just under 400bhp at 1bar).
I am about to bang a different core in (but still a GT30 hybrid) and wind the boost up. The aim is to have the same response as present and make about 550bhp on pump fuel...... this will still be using a GT30 type core.
Plenty of life in a quick response GT30 Hybrid turbo me thinks.
I'm running a GT30 hybrid core in a standard bolt on fit (yes you heard lol) housing on my Sccob currently. 1bar at 2700-2800rpm, full boost (1.5bar) at 3000rpm. 480bhp @ Fly at only 1.38bar boost (was on a hub dyno the other day and got 395 ATW) due to not having a strong enough actuator. This core will run 2bar all day, go figure what it would be capable of at this boost level (it made just under 400bhp at 1bar).
I am about to bang a different core in (but still a GT30 hybrid) and wind the boost up. The aim is to have the same response as present and make about 550bhp on pump fuel...... this will still be using a GT30 type core.
Plenty of life in a quick response GT30 Hybrid turbo me thinks.
. Would you like to remind the viewers what capacity your car is compared to a Cosworth?
15-06-2007, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
you mean this wee beastie??
She is currently sat on my drive minus 2 driveshafts and a front diff, but is now sporting a T5 for proper wheel drive and has a couple of snags to fix, loose ex manifold+blowing gaskets , need a decent mount for the T5 box in the 4x4 shell, waiting for a bit off ford for that, and a few bits like a heatsheild etc, then its good to go 38PSI of T4 , but i'm sure you remember that - sure you will make it's aquaintance again soon when it gets ALS and LC
She is currently sat on my drive minus 2 driveshafts and a front diff, but is now sporting a T5 for proper wheel drive
and has a couple of snags to fix, loose ex manifold+blowing gaskets , need a decent mount for the T5 box in the 4x4 shell, waiting for a bit off ford for that, and a few bits like a heatsheild etc, then its good to go 38PSI of T4 , but i'm sure you remember that - sure you will make it's aquaintance again soon when it gets ALS and LC My favourite saff this was until you got your
hands on it Will.
Leave that girlie car in pieces and put some cash into the proper car.
15-06-2007, 08:48 PM
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cheers Euan, hopefully you might have a bit of company in the T4 saff performance shoot-outs soon
Im no expert but anything you need to know just ask
15-06-2007, 09:34 PM
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well, it's currently running cossie forged pistons 7.5:1 ish I think, have to check the build sheet, T4 ( unsure of trims) with 1000cc injectors, ported head, STD cams I belive, 2wd manifold with a 3" downpipe, and holds 38Psi ... Next area for development is going to be the rear end, what diff/beam do you run? ... Also I think the Std 4x4 brakes will need upgrading sooner rarther than later
Deffo going to get Stus ALS and LC as well as soon as I have 2 pennies to rub together again
... Next area for development is going to be the rear end, what diff/beam do you run? ... Also I think the Std 4x4 brakes will need upgrading sooner rarther than later Deffo going to get Stus ALS and LC as well as soon as I have 2 pennies to rub together again
15-06-2007, 09:46 PM
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I have standard diff and rear end
Got a getrag gear box now.
The rest sounds very similar to mine apart from comp and cams.
the brakes will be lethal mate
Is Stu on mapping duties?
Got a getrag gear box now.
The rest sounds very similar to mine apart from comp and cams.
the brakes will be lethal mate
Is Stu on mapping duties?
15-06-2007, 10:02 PM
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Yep, 260 Mile round trip but its the free Tea that swings it for me
15-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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whens that happening?? I take it you don't launch yours then? And remember im on a 7" diff due to it being a 4x4 saff with a T5 box in until I sort a more permanant solution
And remember im on a 7" diff due to it being a 4x4 saff with a T5 box in until I sort a more permanant solution
15-06-2007, 10:12 PM
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whens that happening?? I take it you don't launch yours then? And remember im on a 7" diff due to it being a 4x4 saff with a T5 box in until I sort a more permanant solution
And remember im on a 7" diff due to it being a 4x4 saff with a T5 box in until I sort a more permanant solution usually november time.
I never launch it and have never floored it in 2nd gear either.
A 2wd diff should get you by
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