8 injectors...now this could be the dumest question ever
21-09-2004, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
but- surely as run 8 injecotrs in pairs, why not just run 4 at twice the flow rate - less to go wrong, less wiring etc? or are thinking .... ive got 8 greens lying around for free so lets make use of them..?
Each to their own I guess
21-09-2004, 04:18 PM
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That is not possible on todays fuel from the turbo or the greens....sorry the rollers were WRONG
21-09-2004, 04:19 PM
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Doug...you pay a tuner to do your work i dont...so its MY decision 
This post AS SAID is purely a hypothetical question..which can be done by all accounts.....
This post AS SAID is purely a hypothetical question..which can be done by all accounts.....
21-09-2004, 04:20 PM
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dav...they will be wrong yes as it isnt accurate enuff as shown many atime.
Thanks for your vote of confidence,fortunately i dont care though
Thanks for your vote of confidence,fortunately i dont care though
21-09-2004, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ima-Racing500
That is not possible on todays fuel from the turbo or the greens....sorry the rollers were WRONG
as that was where it was taken, and paul hills exact words were that is the best engine I have ever seen on greens 
It did make 378.9 but had to be backed off slightly as it was on the verge of detting 
but hey, 370BHP from a homebuild on a budget isn't bad I don't think
21-09-2004, 04:26 PM
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sorry mate.i do wish you all the luck in the world.i just wish i had the balls to try myself or the money to waste trying
saw it go wrong to many times and sumtimes think it better to just pay the extra to get things done right.if you werent an electrician would you rewire your own home
surely its only a matter of time before something goes wrong and you have a 100page thread of i told you so. good luck anyway mate 
saw it go wrong to many times and sumtimes think it better to just pay the extra to get things done right.if you werent an electrician would you rewire your own home
surely its only a matter of time before something goes wrong and you have a 100page thread of i told you so. good luck anyway mate
21-09-2004, 04:39 PM
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dav......well it hasnt happened yet...just teething problems at this level.....the stage 3 was the best.....i do sometimes think why did i bother when this was reliable enuff...but hey i had to do it...in for a penny in for a pound
If it blows (and will be my first proper engine failure!) i will start again..
..I am DIY till i die
If it blows (and will be my first proper engine failure!) i will start again..
..I am DIY till i die
21-09-2004, 06:23 PM
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Phil, as much as it pains me...lol...i do agree with what you do. If my engine blows i will be the one rebuilding it. Only thing ill go to a tuner for is diagnostic fault finding and setting up/mapping. I dont see the pleasure in not doing it yourself!
21-09-2004, 06:27 PM
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Lee....i hate to have to be normal in my reply to you but diagnostics for me is via my Cosworth Technicians manual and my new pectel (collins) diagnostic moniter
but diagnostics for me is via my Cosworth Technicians manual and my new pectel (collins) diagnostic moniter
21-09-2004, 06:30 PM
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Well thats quite cool. Mines usually trial and error...which can be expensive. Usually find the cure but my latest one has arse fucked me big style
When i say id use a tuner for diagnostic...thats what i mean..i WOULD use one,,,i havent yet though lol! I will be going Stus tho for a setup etc
When i say id use a tuner for diagnostic...thats what i mean..i WOULD use one,,,i havent yet though lol! I will be going Stus tho for a setup etc
21-09-2004, 06:56 PM
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Phil
Autronic can drive 8 injectors on 4 outputs and have perfect emissions ,Stu would be the best man to try on weber but I bet when you add cost/time you should have got another Ecu.
Mark
Autronic can drive 8 injectors on 4 outputs and have perfect emissions
,Stu would be the best man to try on weber but I bet when you add cost/time you should have got another Ecu.Mark
22-09-2004, 09:24 AM
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Phil,
Thanks for returning the ECU promptly, even nicer to see that you havent
even opened up the software/instructions pack.
Could it be that you were not serious about using it in the first place ?
You quoted the retail price of the S8 further up this thread.
As a trader, this price would have been discounted for you...
I would not normally do this for an unofficial SECS trader but as it was
an excercise in public relations i would have done so for you.
I think the retail price is a pretty good value anyway.
As for MAPS, If you had gave me an idea of the final engine spec,
I could have put a base map together to get you going.
After all, the idea of the S8 is to be plug and play in 99% of applications.
Hope this makes you regret your Level 8 decision a little bit more but as you
have said before and I agree it is up to you at the end of the day.
Thanks for returning the ECU promptly, even nicer to see that you havent
even opened up the software/instructions pack.
Could it be that you were not serious about using it in the first place ?
You quoted the retail price of the S8 further up this thread.
As a trader, this price would have been discounted for you...
I would not normally do this for an unofficial SECS trader but as it was
an excercise in public relations i would have done so for you.
I think the retail price is a pretty good value anyway.
As for MAPS, If you had gave me an idea of the final engine spec,
I could have put a base map together to get you going.
After all, the idea of the S8 is to be plug and play in 99% of applications.
Hope this makes you regret your Level 8 decision a little bit more but as you
have said before and I agree it is up to you at the end of the day.
22-09-2004, 10:17 AM
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Simon...i DID read the instructions,the envelope was one you could open and close ......as proof not all the pages were stapled together.
I find that rather a childish attempt at a dig TBH
If i thought you could do me a base chip that would be safe for my engine without the need for a mapping session..ie i just can fiddle myself without too major problems i would have tried it....infact if you CAN do that and is compatible with the pectel (collins moniter) you can re send it and i will try it....seeing as you so want me to use it and everyone is calling me a tosser...Your call...i explained WHY i didnt want it...its up to you to remedy those fears.
......as proof not all the pages were stapled together.I find that rather a childish attempt at a dig TBH
If i thought you could do me a base chip that would be safe for my engine without the need for a mapping session..ie i just can fiddle myself without too major problems i would have tried it....infact if you CAN do that and is compatible with the pectel (collins moniter) you can re send it and i will try it....seeing as you so want me to use it and everyone is calling me a tosser...Your call...i explained WHY i didnt want it...its up to you to remedy those fears.
22-09-2004, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ima-Racing500
That is not possible on todays fuel from the turbo or the greens....sorry the rollers were WRONG
as that was where it was taken, and paul hills exact words were that is the best engine I have ever seen on greens It did make 378.9 but had to be backed off slightly as it was on the verge of detting but hey, 370BHP from a homebuild on a budget isn't bad I don't think 
22-09-2004, 10:31 AM
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Phil,
Sorry, I retract the 'not being serious' remark.
As for my S8 ecu being able to work with the pectel (cough cough, collins) monitor,
I could not bring my self to limit the data available to the said monitor by using what is
effectivly a device that is 10 years out of date even if it is being remanufactured new.
I will think about re-making the offer..
Sorry, I retract the 'not being serious' remark.
As for my S8 ecu being able to work with the pectel (cough cough, collins) monitor,
I could not bring my self to limit the data available to the said monitor by using what is
effectivly a device that is 10 years out of date even if it is being remanufactured new.
I will think about re-making the offer..
22-09-2004, 10:33 AM
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Steve,
3rd.
3rd
.Has anyone been able to give a clear reason why, and if this really is the reason for some (?) of the EA figures seeming high?
Edit to say I don't want to start a fight, and I am sure that the car is still plenty quick on the road 370 hp or not.
22-09-2004, 10:53 AM
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Rolling roads no matter who's it is, will never be accurate.
There are far too many un measured assumptions used in calculating BHP.
E.G. powertrain loss/tyre grip/clutch slip/ambient temperature...etc.
The ONLY accurate way is on a proper certified engine dyno.
There are far too many un measured assumptions used in calculating BHP.
E.G. powertrain loss/tyre grip/clutch slip/ambient temperature...etc.
The ONLY accurate way is on a proper certified engine dyno.
22-09-2004, 11:14 AM
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SECS.............i dont want the ability to adjust via the Collins just to see all the data.
Its funny you harped on soooooooo much for me to try it and now you having to re think LOL......as i said if my said worries are quashed i'd be mad not to try it Its up to you.......................i am easy either way just ask Rainbird
Its funny you harped on soooooooo much for me to try it and now you having to re think LOL......as i said if my said worries are quashed i'd be mad not to try it
Its up to you.......................i am easy either way just ask Rainbird
22-09-2004, 11:16 AM
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i know what ima means, it's be handy if you could have a display showing what the ECU does...
i wonder if SECS provides a feature like this
oh n wait, they provide 4 different solutions for this
i wonder if SECS provides a feature like this
oh n wait, they provide 4 different solutions for this
22-09-2004, 11:36 AM
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phil, heres a little table to help you realise where the cost goes... lol
please fill in the blank for how much the L8 chip costs and how much the monitor costs and then you can work out your totals
ps you realise that the S8 has built in datalogging and monitor displays to any PC based system (like a little tiny laptop like lewises)
please fill in the blank for how much the L8 chip costs and how much the monitor costs and then you can work out your totals
ps you realise that the S8 has built in datalogging and monitor displays to any PC based system (like a little tiny laptop like lewises)
22-09-2004, 11:52 AM
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jim you clearly know more about cossies than phil, please go buy one and stop continually buying those shitty thumper engines you have an obsession with
22-09-2004, 11:55 AM
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matt i didnt think i wanted a cossie...
..then i drove one on monday (t34 greens etc. etc.)
now i KNOW i dont want one
stu... ring, ring
i think the fooker's got caller ID and is sitting there watching the phone ring with my name on it and laughing
..then i drove one on monday (t34 greens etc. etc.)
now i KNOW i dont want one
stu... ring, ring
i think the fooker's got caller ID and is sitting there watching the phone ring with my name on it and laughing