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30-05-2007, 02:52 PM
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138.68 mm is the minimum depth (According to the workshop manual).
I have heard of heads which are below the recomended limit being used without any problems, but it would be work chatting with one of the engine builders before you do it.......
I have heard of heads which are below the recomended limit being used without any problems, but it would be work chatting with one of the engine builders before you do it.......
30-05-2007, 03:32 PM
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I have no knowledge of yb block repairs but some of you have mentioned welding.
One thing i do know is that welding cast iron is very tricky to do properly.
Especially on something the size of an engine block which will act as a large heat soak.
One thing i do know is that welding cast iron is very tricky to do properly.
Especially on something the size of an engine block which will act as a large heat soak.
30-05-2007, 06:48 PM
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It was running valve cut outs
Now my net is back up and working I'll post some more pics
The minute I walk away from this pc though I know I'm going to lose my connection
Now my net is back up and working I'll post some more pics
The minute I walk away from this pc though I know I'm going to lose my connection
30-05-2007, 07:09 PM
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It does seem to me, that the cossie-nutter was well and truly had by whichever tuner built the engine.
I'm thinking cossie-nutter is obviously not the type of person who looks like they're into cars?
They did seem to have you over a barrel mate
I'm thinking cossie-nutter is obviously not the type of person who looks like they're into cars?
They did seem to have you over a barrel mate
30-05-2007, 07:20 PM
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He is into his cars mate but a oil change and spark plugs is as far as he ever ventured with mechanical work.
Shame the engine is actually so old now or I would of posted through said tuners window but even back then I feel there would of been a excuse for the block and god knows how they could of answered for the damage to the head.
Shit luck for my mate as he spent a fucking lot of money with them, not exactly great for me either though, I'm quite sure the pistons will be ok and hopefully the crank
Shame the engine is actually so old now or I would of posted through said tuners window but even back then I feel there would of been a excuse for the block and god knows how they could of answered for the damage to the head.
Shit luck for my mate as he spent a fucking lot of money with them, not exactly great for me either though, I'm quite sure the pistons will be ok and hopefully the crank
30-05-2007, 07:23 PM
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It does seem to me, that the cossie-nutter was well and truly had by whichever tuner built the engine.
I'm thinking cossie-nutter is obviously not the type of person who looks like they're into cars?
They did seem to have you over a barrel mate
I'm thinking cossie-nutter is obviously not the type of person who looks like they're into cars?
They did seem to have you over a barrel mate
Im not to clever on how to build engines etc... but im ok with anyhing else like swapping parts n' stuff!
30-05-2007, 07:44 PM
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You seem to forget to tell people that your top speed run was down the A1 from peterborough to huntingdon which is about 20 miles not good holding your foot to the floor for that long then you also forget to tell people that you are far to good to run a engine in before you act a clown giving it the big up in a car park and then when you smash it up you go and buy a 4+4 cosworth then try to donut that and manage to spap a cam in have 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY
then you also forget to tell people that you are far to good to run a engine in before you act a clown giving it the big up in a car park and then when you smash it up you go and buy a 4+4 cosworth then try to donut that and manage to spap a cam in have 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY
30-05-2007, 07:50 PM
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You seem to forget to tell people that your top speed run was down the A1 from peterborough to huntingdon which is about 20 miles not good holding your foot to the floor for that long then you also forget to tell people that you are far to good to run a engine in before you act a clown giving it the big up in a car park and then when you smash it up you go and buy a 4+4 cosworth then try to donut that and manage to spap a cam in have 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY
then you also forget to tell people that you are far to good to run a engine in before you act a clown giving it the big up in a car park and then when you smash it up you go and buy a 4+4 cosworth then try to donut that and manage to spap a cam in have 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY 
30-05-2007, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ellicoss
You seem to forget to tell people that your top speed run was down the A1 from peterborough to huntingdon which is about 20 miles not good holding your foot to the floor for that long then you also forget to tell people that you are far to good to run a engine in before you act a clown giving it the big up in a car park and then when you smash it up you go and buy a 4+4 cosworth then try to donut that and manage to spap a cam in have 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY
then you also forget to tell people that you are far to good to run a engine in before you act a clown giving it the big up in a car park and then when you smash it up you go and buy a 4+4 cosworth then try to donut that and manage to spap a cam in have 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY All my cars WAS RUN IN right before "Acting the clown as you put it"
My 4x4 cossie was already going to have a rebuild as was pissing oil a gooden and was fecked and had the wrong cams in so im told!
Not that any of this has anything to do with you or this post i never know!
Oh and of course i bet you have never done anything wrong or stupid in your life!
30-05-2007, 07:56 PM
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Look mate i dont need to talk shit on here put your storys up not a problem but PLEASE tell poeple both sides of the story theres no need for the 2nd head or the cracks in the block that is bad on the tuners behalf but your driving and lack of care is also to blame
30-05-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ellicoss
Look mate i dont need to talk shit on here put your storys up not a problem but PLEASE tell poeple both sides of the story theres no need for the 2nd head or the cracks in the block that is bad on the tuners behalf but your driving and lack of care is also to blame
I did say about the top speed run hitting the limiter in 5th and it went bang after the 3rd time of doing it! as i was stupid that i openly admit!
Ive always run my cars in propley as dont really want to go back for another build etc... as costs ŁŁŁŁ
And as for both sides of the story i feel i have done that!
30-05-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ellicoss
Look mate i dont need to talk shit on here put your storys up not a problem but PLEASE tell poeple both sides of the story theres no need for the 2nd head or the cracks in the block that is bad on the tuners behalf but your driving and lack of care is also to blame
Hold on one second mate
I totally see where you are coming from besides Mels top speed run he probably done less stunts in that car than 90 % of people on Pf
The head was fitted less than 1k before he crashed it, when he crashed it he wasn't being a arse as I happened to be there.
For the reason that the engine had covered very few miles since the rebuild was why I had it from him.
Its totally out of order that you point the blame at his driving when that is clearly not to blame, he got done over, half because he doesn't have a clue whats what with a cosworth and the other he was waving a fair bit of cash about.
30-05-2007, 09:37 PM
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Agreed Dave but is that to do with everyone slating the 205 block, i am sure the must be some big power 205 engines out there,broms comes first to mind, the reports on the 200 blocks cracking is all to common these days i think to disregard the other options.
Whatever happend to the 202 blocks that were in circulation a few years back.
Steve.
Whatever happend to the 202 blocks that were in circulation a few years back.
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30-05-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
lesson for this thread is dont mess about trying to repair fucked engines.
I dont think 200 blocks have a habit of failing tbh, I think its incorrectly built engines that are a cause.
I already know of 2 very good reasons why they do that.
One thing is that there is no way this is going to halt my project, its only money and as mentioned its a lesson learnt.
30-05-2007, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I measured the head last night and it was 138.2 if I took the correct measurement.
Is that scrap too ?
my head measures 137mm and is running 500+ bhp i am running a thicker head gasket though
so i wouldnt scrap the head as for the block i wouldnt take the risk you will only have to replace it sooner or later
30-05-2007, 10:09 PM
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Surely a thicker casted 200 block HAS to be better than a 205 block, a overbored 200 block however is no better than a 205 iirc
Swings and roundabouts with what can handle what tbh, if the bloke that bolts it together is paying more attention to something else rather than the job in hand then anything could fail.
Swings and roundabouts with what can handle what tbh, if the bloke that bolts it together is paying more attention to something else rather than the job in hand then anything could fail.
30-05-2007, 10:23 PM
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I would of thougth so Dave.
You dont see tuners building big spec engines from 205 blocks.
Infact I would like to see how many race cars running 500hp are using 205 blocks, not many if not none
I am 90% sure 200 blocks are better as long as they aren't bored to a certain amount
You dont see tuners building big spec engines from 205 blocks.
Infact I would like to see how many race cars running 500hp are using 205 blocks, not many if not none
I am 90% sure 200 blocks are better as long as they aren't bored to a certain amount
30-05-2007, 10:33 PM
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Well I have already sourced another block, already long studded too.
Its not new but it is bored correctly to suit my pistons so its a start.
I do need to get the engine over to my mate though for him to inspect it but he has said over the phone that he wouldn't advise using it.
If the head will go again then I'll send that off to Karl I think as Nick Waples who I would use "might" take a while and I expect karl can turn it round a bit quicker, I'll have to call him when I get a spare min though.
Hopefully should get the engine done over the next few months by which time the shell will be painted and I'll be ....urmm skint lol
Anyone fancy a buggered 5k old 200 block, I'll admit its probably not as good as a 205 block
Its not new but it is bored correctly to suit my pistons so its a start.
I do need to get the engine over to my mate though for him to inspect it but he has said over the phone that he wouldn't advise using it.
If the head will go again then I'll send that off to Karl I think as Nick Waples who I would use "might" take a while and I expect karl can turn it round a bit quicker, I'll have to call him when I get a spare min though.
Hopefully should get the engine done over the next few months by which time the shell will be painted and I'll be ....urmm skint lol
Anyone fancy a buggered 5k old 200 block, I'll admit its probably not as good as a 205 block
30-05-2007, 10:45 PM
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My head has already been worked so I dont know much more its going to need to make it work right with the T38.
It does sound like my head is on its limit, maybe one more skim left which typically it needs to get those marks out
Got any spare heads Dave ?
It does sound like my head is on its limit, maybe one more skim left which typically it needs to get those marks out
Got any spare heads Dave ?