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Old 24-05-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default L8 ALS and LC

Got my chip back from Stu tday after a few mods and to add LC and ALS.

Was having starting trouble but starts fine now. Cheers Stu

LC, what can I say. I plugged the ecu back in at 20:00pm and let the car warm up to test, BAD IDEA.

Think I woke the whole town up!!!!

Will let you all know how it pulls off and how the ALS works at the weekend when its all wired in.
Old 24-05-2007, 08:54 PM
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how do you wire in the LC and ALS ? once the chip is sorted?
Old 24-05-2007, 08:59 PM
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Where the ecu multiplug is you have a 3 pin connector socket....On a 2wd anyway.....the bottom left is LC bottom right ALS. just short them with the ground which is the third pin. I will wire to switches over weekend...

Easy...
Old 25-05-2007, 08:33 AM
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Your welcome pal, thanks for your custom, fancy trying it at that time of night... its louder than it sounds in the vidoe isnt it?
Old 25-05-2007, 09:26 AM
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i have mine but i fooked my idle control valve
Old 25-05-2007, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Roosie
i have mine but i fooked my idle control valve



The LC will work just fine without it though pal.
Old 25-05-2007, 09:48 AM
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yeah but ive gotto get a whole new valve as the middle thread is fooked also so the car wont run with no valve will it.

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Old 25-05-2007, 10:06 AM
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If you can reassemble it, then yes, just put it back in and leave it unplugged mate.
Old 25-05-2007, 10:16 AM
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Is there ANY way of having launch control on the L6? Not interested in AL just LC
Old 25-05-2007, 03:16 PM
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do you have a price now stu???

as id send you back my chip mate?
Old 25-05-2007, 03:24 PM
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Yes price please.
Getting very excited about this.
Old 25-05-2007, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
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Is there ANY way of having launch control on the L6? Not interested in AL just LC
Can you Stu?
Old 26-05-2007, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
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Is there ANY way of having launch control on the L6? Not interested in AL just LC
Can you Stu?
No. He already explained that on the other thread (no capacity on the ECU to do it).
Old 26-05-2007, 05:30 PM
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can someone briefly xplain what LC actually controlls?
Old 27-05-2007, 11:48 AM
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It winds back your timing and prevents the car from reving past a certain rpm point so that when you go to launch the car, you just hold the throttle wide open and dump the clutch and release the switch at the same time. When you release the switch, it allows the engine to rev. It's to hold the power at a fine ballance between bogging off the line and too much wheel spin.
Old 27-05-2007, 04:55 PM
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To elaborate just a little on Daz's kind explanation, it dumps energy into teh exhaust stroke that on a turbocharged car is then harnessed by teh turbocharger, allowing you to actually have boost pressure at launch point as the video shows. Something the standard system simply cannot do. It ups the power available at launch massively.
Old 27-05-2007, 05:01 PM
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wheres this vid? wana see it!!
Old 27-05-2007, 05:31 PM
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Was on another topic, but here it is pal.

Old 27-05-2007, 06:34 PM
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haha thats great cheers! wish id messed about with the lc on the fiesta more now!! (megasquirt) never sounded like that!
Old 28-05-2007, 04:23 PM
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Old 28-05-2007, 08:21 PM
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wonder how many 4x4's are gonna need new front diffs soon


fair play stu for getting this sorted,,, whats the price for a all singing and dancing mod on the l8 ecu then ?

as in if somone had a 4x4 cossie and wanted all the functions,,, just a rough price
Old 28-05-2007, 08:53 PM
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do you need a 247 shaft for LC or is it only for anti lag
Old 28-05-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by abdr500
do you need a 247 shaft for LC or is it only for anti lag
iirc you can get away with mild anti lag on a standard turbo but i think you would need a 247 shaft for launch control.
I tried mine the weekend at msd and its superb
Old 28-05-2007, 09:50 PM
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any price on just the LC and does it work with other people chip or do i have to get car mpped buy stu first then add the LC
Old 28-05-2007, 09:57 PM
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Is it possible to just leave the car with you Stu and then collect it, with ALS and LC all fitted and running?

Also can you supply the necessary parts? Such as the modified ISCV?
Old 28-05-2007, 10:03 PM
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Ł350 inc vat for the ALS program
Ł250 inc vat for the Launch Control Program.

Ł500 inc vat for both options together.

It can be done by post and teh chip posted back out teh same day on next day delivery.

Both systems are ONLY available with our own ECU Calibrations, so if you have a NON Motorsport Developments chip, you will have to buy a chip for your spec as well. We decided against converting other tuners software, even though we can, as then we would be the last to touch the map, and we have no interest in going down that route, sorry.

We can do all the fitting, but would prefer you get your own ALS valves and Throttle bodies as we are not really equipped for machine work. These items are readily available and we provide DIY instructions detailing how to mod your own valve for teh mildest version of ALS.

Worth noting, Launch Control does NOT require a modded valve at all and it works out of teh box.
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ok say for example I changed my cam and I needed a re map and I took my car to a different tuner once the other tuner has finished mapping the car would it loses the LC function or does it run off a different chip all together
Old 28-05-2007, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by abdr500
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ok say for example I changed my cam and I needed a re map and I took my car to a different tuner once the other tuner has finished mapping the car would it loses the LC function or does it run off a different chip all together
When the re-map took place presumably you would have to buy a chip off them as stu's chip would be coded. So my understanding is you would lose it yes
Old 28-05-2007, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4 ste
When the re-map took place presumably you would have to buy a chip off them as Stu's chip would be coded. So my understanding is you would lose it yes
Correct.
Old 28-05-2007, 10:36 PM
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stu you have a pm
Old 28-05-2007, 10:42 PM
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Is launch control something that a P8 can do too?
Old 04-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Just some feedback on the antilag and LC. I had it fitted on a 2wd saph track car running the following just so you can compare.

t35.63 (without maram shaft) 34psi peak
greys
closed loop
7.8.1 cr.
4x4 inlet and matched to heavilly ported head. BD10's
500 IC

I have machined the idle valve as per Stu's instructions and also machined the throttle body both for more air flow. Antilag works spot on.
The noise is unbelievable but the way it works is even better. Instant throttle response when changing up and down gears and approaching corners etc. The heat the turbo produces is massive so we will see how long it lasts but planning to upgrade soon anyway

LC is a bit overkill for what I use the car for but thought I might aswell get it while Stu has the chip, 2wd and launch control dont really mix well unless you have slicks

Both well recommended though and easy to fit from the instructions.

Cheers Stu.
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Originally Posted by montecos400
Just some feedback on the antilag and LC. I had it fitted on a 2wd saph track car running the following just so you can compare.

t35.63 (without maram shaft) 34psi peak
greys
closed loop
7.8.1 cr.
4x4 inlet and matched to heavilly ported head. BD10's
500 IC

I have machined the idle valve as per Stu's instructions and also machined the throttle body both for more air flow. Antilag works spot on.
The noise is unbelievable but the way it works is even better. Instant throttle response when changing up and down gears and approaching corners etc. The heat the turbo produces is massive so we will see how long it lasts but planning to upgrade soon anyway

LC is a bit overkill for what I use the car for but thought I might aswell get it while Stu has the chip, 2wd and launch control dont really mix well unless you have slicks

Both well recommended though and easy to fit from the instructions.

Cheers Stu.
Great feedback, many thanks pal.
What boost does your T34 generate with launch control? I could soften it up a little if you like, maybe drop the rpm and boost a little?
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will the lc generate to much heat for none maram shafted turbo stu?
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Originally Posted by Jaycos
will the lc generate to much heat for none maram shafted turbo Stu?
Hard to say as its very dependant on use, but my personal feelings ar ethat if you keep its use down, it will be fine. The heat generated in a launch is not that bad as lets face it, you dont keep it switched on for minutes at a time do you? Its on for maybe, 10 seconds on teh start line MAX.
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cheers stu
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Ill check the boost on the launch control and get back to you stu...
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What PSI Is it running at idle with the T35.?
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Originally Posted by montecos400
Ill check the boost on the launch control and get back to you stu...
Any news fella?


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