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23-05-2007, 06:57 PM
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My 63mm AH fabs one is comin on 3 years old now, and they were using them for quite a while before.
But my new ones being made at the mo, With even better core.
But my new ones being made at the mo, With even better core.
23-05-2007, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
AH fab's for my cossie.
63mm as std.
And the original for the latest designs..
63mm as std.
And the original for the latest designs..
Alex Hanczarski
Tel 01432 354704
Fax 01432 359762
E-Mail ahfabrications@mac.com
Web www.ahfabrications.co.uk
Unit 6 H, Thorn business Park, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT.
They do the Demon tweeks stuff, and are heaverly in the motorsport sceen.
23-05-2007, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by K.Goa
Anyone know how much better the Proalloy radiator is compared to the original one? as it dos`nt look much bigger..
I didnt notice any improvement with the pace over the standard either..
23-05-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
Originally Posted by Dan
Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
AH fab's for my cossie.
63mm as std.
And the original for the latest designs..
63mm as std.
And the original for the latest designs..
Alex Hanczarski
Tel 01432 354704
Fax 01432 359762
E-Mail ahfabrications@mac.com
Web www.ahfabrications.co.uk
Unit 6 H, Thorn business Park, Rotherwas, Hereford, HR2 6JT.
They do the Demon tweeks stuff, and are heaverly in the motorsport sceen.
24-05-2007, 09:42 AM
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yep i have changed my mine again, gonna go for radtech one now
as mikes 'fractionally' cheaper is Ł100
thats a fooking lot of money to me
radtech 60mm it is, whos gonna do me it the cheapest then?
as mikes 'fractionally' cheaper is Ł100
thats a fooking lot of money to me radtech 60mm it is, whos gonna do me it the cheapest then?
24-05-2007, 09:55 AM
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When you replace a radiator, you are normally replacing it because it is knackered. So if you fit an alloy one instead of a the standard knackered one, you are bound to see improvements.
Same as if you replace a standard knackered one with a standard new one you will still see improvements.
I wonder how much better new standard ones are compared to new alloy ones, have any magazines done tests like they do with coolers/ACT's etc?
Incidentally i just replaced an 8 year old Pace alloy rad with a new Radtec one, and noticed good improvements.
Pace and Radtec are very similar build quality IMO, both good
Same as if you replace a standard knackered one with a standard new one you will still see improvements.
I wonder how much better new standard ones are compared to new alloy ones, have any magazines done tests like they do with coolers/ACT's etc?
Incidentally i just replaced an 8 year old Pace alloy rad with a new Radtec one, and noticed good improvements.
Pace and Radtec are very similar build quality IMO, both good
24-05-2007, 10:11 AM
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The Radtech 60mm is Ł320
Pro-Alloy 50mm is Ł350
Pro-Alloy 65mm is Ł400 (but this is 140mm wider than standard and has additional scoops to force air into cooler and not allow it to bypass around the outside, so has additional features not found on other intercoolers, so not a like for like comparison).
Pro-Alloy 50mm is Ł350
Pro-Alloy 65mm is Ł400 (but this is 140mm wider than standard and has additional scoops to force air into cooler and not allow it to bypass around the outside, so has additional features not found on other intercoolers, so not a like for like comparison).
24-05-2007, 01:27 PM
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its all down to fasion imo and what make is seen to be more populaand blingy. End of the day is it really going to make that much difference on your average ford sierra that has more major issues to be addressed than which make of intercooler should go on it
24-05-2007, 02:57 PM
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ive got an ally rad...............dont see no difference in temps........(havn't got a digi gauge though)..........do u not think the thinner the core,the easyer the heat will be lost...??????
25-05-2007, 02:06 AM
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let me stick my nose in here 
, ah have been making the 60+mm ones for the last few yrs, radtec matched there design a yr ago... the ah has been proved for yrs and now due to copycats and matching they are improving there design...
the reason radtec and ah are similar priced is basically there the same core, now mike my cooler is the same size as yours by ah and a guarentee works as good if not better, yet pro charge ŁŁŁ more for the pleasure....
dan is totally correct in saying the new design is being done, the cores are in its just having the time to knock the new design up and test them out, i know the new theory behind it all as i am very close with alex and lars @ah, my car along with 1 or 2 others will be the first to test the new coolers out along with the new rads they will be producing to go with the coolers both are being updated to allow for further progress in the market...
IMO for the price you pay radtec or ah are the best to go for atm i personally feel the pro alloy is overpriced and as many people have found they dont fit correct and how they force the air in i'd like to know, as to me it just looks like the dams sit there they dont 'force air in' and before you say they fit escorts mike paul R's didnt fit he sent his back!!! or trimmed it....
the new ah ones will when made will be a similer price to the pro alloy ones price now but the design will be new/better hence the extra, but for now IMO by a radtec/ah save some $$$
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, ah have been making the 60+mm ones for the last few yrs, radtec matched there design a yr ago... the ah has been proved for yrs and now due to copycats and matching they are improving there design...the reason radtec and ah are similar priced is basically there the same core, now mike my cooler is the same size as yours by ah and a guarentee works as good if not better, yet pro charge ŁŁŁ more for the pleasure....
dan is totally correct in saying the new design is being done, the cores are in its just having the time to knock the new design up and test them out, i know the new theory behind it all as i am very close with alex and lars @ah, my car along with 1 or 2 others will be the first to test the new coolers out along with the new rads they will be producing to go with the coolers both are being updated to allow for further progress in the market...
IMO for the price you pay radtec or ah are the best to go for atm i personally feel the pro alloy is overpriced and as many people have found they dont fit correct and how they force the air in i'd like to know, as to me it just looks like the dams sit there they dont 'force air in' and before you say they fit escorts mike
paul R's didnt fit he sent his back!!! or trimmed it....the new ah ones will when made will be a similer price to the pro alloy ones price now but the design will be new/better hence the extra, but for now IMO by a radtec/ah save some $$$
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25-05-2007, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
let me stick my nose in here , ah have been making the 60+mm ones for the last few yrs, radtec matched there design a yr ago... the ah has been proved for yrs and now due to copycats and matching they are improving there design...
the reason radtec and ah are similar priced is basically there the same core, now mike my cooler is the same size as yours by ah and a guarentee works as good if not better, yet pro charge ŁŁŁ more for the pleasure....
dan is totally correct in saying the new design is being done, the cores are in its just having the time to knock the new design up and test them out, i know the new theory behind it all as i am very close with alex and lars @ah, my car along with 1 or 2 others will be the first to test the new coolers out along with the new rads they will be producing to go with the coolers both are being updated to allow for further progress in the market...
IMO for the price you pay radtec or ah are the best to go for atm i personally feel the pro alloy is overpriced and as many people have found they dont fit correct and how they force the air in i'd like to know, as to me it just looks like the dams sit there they dont 'force air in' and before you say they fit escorts mike Paul R's didnt fit he sent his back!!! or trimmed it....
the new ah ones will when made will be a similer price to the pro alloy ones price now but the design will be new/better hence the extra, but for now IMO by a radtec/ah save some $$$
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, ah have been making the 60+mm ones for the last few yrs, radtec matched there design a yr ago... the ah has been proved for yrs and now due to copycats and matching they are improving there design...the reason radtec and ah are similar priced is basically there the same core, now mike my cooler is the same size as yours by ah and a guarentee works as good if not better, yet pro charge ŁŁŁ more for the pleasure....
dan is totally correct in saying the new design is being done, the cores are in its just having the time to knock the new design up and test them out, i know the new theory behind it all as i am very close with alex and lars @ah, my car along with 1 or 2 others will be the first to test the new coolers out along with the new rads they will be producing to go with the coolers both are being updated to allow for further progress in the market...
IMO for the price you pay radtec or ah are the best to go for atm i personally feel the pro alloy is overpriced and as many people have found they dont fit correct and how they force the air in i'd like to know, as to me it just looks like the dams sit there they dont 'force air in' and before you say they fit escorts mike
Paul R's didnt fit he sent his back!!! or trimmed it....the new ah ones will when made will be a similer price to the pro alloy ones price now but the design will be new/better hence the extra, but for now IMO by a radtec/ah save some $$$
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2. The lads at Pro-alloy forgot to measure the required length of the deflector plates after doing mine, hence why the subsequent two after that didn't fit
.3. As to how they work, just goes to show you should stick to what you know best (battering fish
), air will ALWAYS take the path of least resistance, so a lot of the flow is lost as the air will go AROUND the intercooler / radiator rather than through it. The deflector plates stop this from happening, so the path of least resistance is through the intercooler / radiator 
.Also, please note I have in NO way slagged off AH OR Radtec and these are intercoolers I would be happy to fit on my own car / sell. I just prefer the quality of the Pro-Alloy ones and also they are reasonably local to me for custom parts and when I have funny ideas about what I want, they will build them (my twin pass "head" cooler as an example
).
25-05-2007, 08:11 AM
#64
Originally Posted by space hoppers
just ask mad yum how many times his pro alloy big cooler like yours mike went back due to lack of flow 
. How can they test the flow on a car that's not running . Basically Mark wanted to change the design as YUM's car had some more room to improve things and Mark felt that he wanted every advantage the car could possibly be given, so the intercooler was taken back at Pro-Alloys cost and modded so that every available bit of space used as per Mark's request . This is what happens on custom builds .
27-05-2007, 05:44 AM
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Pro Alloy :
Not being a design engineer, I looked at them all before I decided on Pro Alloy, and the thing that clinched it for me was the quality of the items, the welding, and for me what turned out to be a perfect fit.
Not being a design engineer, I looked at them all before I decided on Pro Alloy, and the thing that clinched it for me was the quality of the items, the welding, and for me what turned out to be a perfect fit.
