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Old 22-05-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Apex 500+BHP RWD Skyline vs APT 600+BHP Evo!

.....at Snetterton!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjUwOUwCFs

I was genuinley scared watching the rivalry between Bren and Gary that day. Seeing Gary nailed to Bren's bumper down the start/finish straight, knowing that Gary would not have given up until he knew he had done all he could to get past really was quite concerning!!

Old 22-05-2007, 07:44 PM
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crackin vid enjoded that,
Old 22-05-2007, 07:52 PM
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is bren still about then? I thought he packed up
Old 22-05-2007, 07:53 PM
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Sweet

I always thought my next car would be an Escort Cossie, but everytime I see Gary's Evo I'm tempted to get one...







...when I finally decide to stop spending £££'s on my rust bucket!

Old 22-05-2007, 07:55 PM
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watching now..
Old 22-05-2007, 08:26 PM
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cool video
Old 22-05-2007, 08:27 PM
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was the evo really pushing it on the bends?

Wouldnt have thought the skyline would have kept up...

Bren looks handy behind the wheel anyway

Is it me or are all skyline laggy as fook?

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Old 22-05-2007, 09:17 PM
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Thats awesome. Proper fast cars. and the noise
Old 22-05-2007, 09:41 PM
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Thats another vid to go in the "see, drift cars do handle" folder.

The GTST seemed laggy, but maybe it was the vid (as its impossible to tell throttle position etc in a vid) or the way he was driving it, as that turbo isnt too bad on a RB25 in my experience, and in Rd1 of EDC and Japfest on Sat it seems responsive enough.

Well, it has to be for drifting.
Old 22-05-2007, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Is it me or are all skyline laggy as fook?
yeah watch this for lag..old vid but you get the point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXloF...elated&search=
Old 22-05-2007, 11:21 PM
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Quality fun video

Skyline looked like it was longer geared than the evo and therefore caught out coming out of the slower bends.

Both drivers driving hard.

Skyline looked nicely controlable (and well done Bren) coming out of the bends with the fun drifts.

Enjoyed watching that!

RW
Old 22-05-2007, 11:29 PM
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skylines are quite laggy, but rev to like, what 8000-9000rpm out of the box.

would have thought a 600bhp evo would have beasted a 500bhp liner htough,

i was told, a 400bhp evo woul beat a 500 bhp skyline, but may just be hype
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wicked vid
Old 22-05-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyobrien
skylines are quite laggy, but rev to like, what 8000-9000rpm out of the box.

would have thought a 600bhp evo would have beasted a 500bhp liner htough,

i was told, a 400bhp evo woul beat a 500 bhp skyline, but may just be hype
why are they quite laggy?

totally bizzare statement, can only say somethings laggy or not as a generalisation about standard cars, and thats far from a standard car.

and whoever told you the 400 vs 500 thing is massivley generalising too, beat how? what spec? what skylines? etc.
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sorry, ill elaborate,

old mans got a r33, i think that its laggy, doesnt really have any poke low down ( feels pretty shite tbh) and then comes on boost and goes spastic,

now, i think this is down to bad mapping, so its just gone in for 2 new 2860 rs turbos, and a apexi fc ecu.


and the statement with regards to the evo, it was a evo 6 rs, and a r33 gtr
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i understand that the consept of lagg is relative to,

personnaly i dont htink it maters for shit, as the rev range is so broad.

i mean, you no your jap shit starvos, whats your opinions?

personally, i think that the r33s feel like heavy car,
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2860s are good for about 700bhp, that on a 2.6litre badly mapped car isnt never going to be instant, but ive been in cars with them on and with the right spec theres still good get up n go from about 3grand.

lag (well, boost threshold) depends a lot on cams and mapping, and with so many cars running stupid duration cams and spacca mapping, i can see why lots are laggy.
its not the car is a laggy car for its engine size, its the spec.

the evo6 rs vs r33 gts thing is still a bit vauge (allthough now we have the lightest evo by far versus a heavy GTR so obv a disadvantage in that way).

my opinions are i dont like skylines, not cause they bad, they awesome, but i just dont.
r33s dont feel too heavy, feel ok for their size, but they are big cars, they dont try to be anything else.

but that vid shows even a RWD GTST can be pretty handy...
Old 22-05-2007, 11:53 PM
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ill give my self a
didnt actually wach the video,

the car has just had the turbos fitted,

it was on standards before,
and tbh there werent much power before 4grand,

i agree with you, i personally prefere the likes of an evo 4, or a s14 or s15,

think the the liner is a very big wide car,

and i understand the obviouse weight disadvantage lol

hows your r32 comming now?
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