RichardPON

Strong? Only going on what was said.....

Anyway, done with this now. Have fun.

Charlie Chalk

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I haven't read at all that he was sparked out.. He got hit.. but he took it

Shings

RichardPON


Did he ever produce an RST that he got 230bhp out of JUST by fitting cossie management?


I though you were following that one up?



GINGE

C+B's car is ONE of the best in the country.... Ollies and Tims are certainly in the top 3 with it... if not above it in my opinion.

YOU BLINKERED FOOL!

Turbocabbie

Your comments are irrelevant as nobody ever stated that any specific tuner takes this course of action, likewise nobody suggested for a moment that ALL engine problems could be solved by listening to them... your comments have been soley aimed at discrediting specific people.

You haven proven you spead gossip and misinformation by suggesting that Jano got sparked out when someone who was actually present has stated this was not the case... It begs the question can anything you say be unserstood as fact, or experience, it could simply be more misinformation or gossip.

You have made statements such as the guy continually lies and copies other's work, trying to pass it off as his own while suggesting that you are sad enough to seek information to discredit the very person you have been attempting to do this to throughout this thread.
If you had any info capable of discrediting anyone you would have posted it without doubt, going by the endless enjoyment you seem to get from such things..... what wonderfull news do you have that is going to shock the frigging world

Ford mapped these management before tuners... so everyone in effect copies and develops what went before them, Ford Motorsport made rear beams for Cosworths before Zoo, Adrenaline and Amhed --- does this mean they are going to hell or Santa is going to miss their house this year ?

What about the companys who make aftermarket management do they know someone already made an electronic management so in effect they are copying it..

You contributed little of value, I even doubt you have used many of the tuners you make random comments about

scotty86d

ive been to powers and spoken to ian there and he helped me out in his lunch hour. nice chap although im most likely to take my car to torque of the devil as its a bit cheaper(im a student), and the guys there said they can do it on a day or twos notice, handy for me.
Give them a try and see what they are like. you will find someone who meets your needs eventually

jano has been helpful and seems like a nice guy. there are loads of people that are total biased twats on here but go to him if he's nearby and try him out. As said above if he isnt to your taste, try someone else. Every tuner (nearly) has good and bad, you just need to sift through the shit

5axo.rst

Heres my two pence. Ok, I bought an escort rst and didn't know much about them. I knew about Oddkidd Creations after going to the Ace at one the the Fast Ford meets. The idiot who owned the car before me had it running 172bhp on a standard intercooler!

I took it Jano after him telling me the boost needed to be turned down and the reasons for it and ever since my car has been going strong. I wouldn't take it anywhere else! I've been back to have cam/GRS/head gasket/vernier pulley fitted and I will carry on going back to him!

He is such a nice, friendly helpful guy who isn't trying to rob anyone of there money simply so he can fit cossie management!!! If you want it, then he'll tell you the pros/cons etc. He's certainly never forced me into having it!
If you have work done by him, he doesn't charge the world (which is something incredibly rare in this day and age)

His cars truly speak for themselves! As for him never ragging them, he's got a mint S1 which he's ragged around Brunters for Fast Ford and his XR3 he takes to track days all over the country!

The guy is passionate about what he does. Give him a call and see for yourself!

C COS

As stated already, I totally agree with all the positive comments about Jano

He's a very knowledgable and helpful guy who gives very thorough explanations and is always willing to help, even for free!!

He's not afraid of rolling road shoot outs and is always out for several sessions on the track at most shows....proven cars with proven power

Everyone company has happy and unhappy customers, but I feel Jano gets a raw deal on PF. He's just a guy trying to make a living out of what he is passionate about

We could slag off every tuner on the RS scene for one reason or another

Chip

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VERY GOOD POINT!!


I went down there too and made the same decision, wouldnt touch them with a bargepole.

NO mega tidy reception area
Mechanics wearing dirty jumpers that had oil on them etc.

It was nothing at all like my local ford dealer.


Ok, so on the plus point Jamie is a very good tuner, all the lads are PROPERLY petrol heads interested in doing a good job and theyve got a decent set of rollers, years of experience, and do a great job.

But obviously its the looks of the place that matter so please dont anyone go anywhere near them, go to a cunt like Jayson who has a clean and tidy set of expensive premises instead



Seriously though, Jamsport are a top bunch of lads IMHO and I would happily recomend them

THEYGOTMETOO

[quote="UnseenMenace"]Excellent point... except its rendered completely void due to the fact the person you're attempting to defend doesn't agree with it ... I would just post a link to the thread in question that Jano started - the one entitled "Liberty" .. or something to that affect but it's been deleted for some reason Just because Jano sells or designs something he seems to think he has sole rights to it and that no one has thought of the idea before ... wishful thinking on his part I'm afraid.

Apart from his apparent lack of business acumen, strange ideas and short-sightedness; I wouldn't really like to comment on his workmanship as I have had no personal experience of his work ... never seen in person a car he has worked on or seen in person any of his products. The only other experience I have had with him is when I bought a 2wd Cossie inlet manifold and plenum from him, that was dealt with quickly and without any problems.

Terry Tibbs

As for Jano getting 'sparked' out, bullshit as far as I know, as it was his mate Aaron with the black S1. Atleast he has the bottle to stand up for what he has done or said. Which is a lot compared to most of the immature middle aged keyboard warriors that hide behind their computers on here.

PON, you need to grow up. As Guzzler has said, most simple problems can be diagnosed without taking the engine apart you goon. If you really think the 'good' tuners rip apart every engine they get to find a worn camshaft, shagged tappets etc. etc. etc. you really need to go and listen to the engines you're working on.

Even I could tell someone that there is something wrong by the sound of the engine (dependant). I even said it to someone last week when his engine was hesitating in his fiesta - MAF sensor, was I right? yes.

Turbocabbie

It matters to me personally very little if someone else agree or not with my beliefs unless they are capable of providing some additional information which allows me to learn something.
The point I was attempting to make was that I do not believe that the stated 'information sourced' to discredit a person was going to shake the foundations of the industry and that many people such as myself could not actually care if something is copied so long as it does the job intended and is of good quality and price.
There is appears to be a self motivated minority intent on destroying someone's lively hood rather than a desire to contribute any information of substance to this thread for the community.

Gra

I have used jano in the past, he's a top bloke, did what i asked for, for what was a good price and the quality of his work was top notch. On the basis of that i would recomend him.

Alps Pacino

You have pm

maxrs16

I sent a link to Jano of this post.

His reply:-


I had a look through the 4 pages and found these people have productive and REAL things to say.


Gra
Flip2k3
THEYGOTMETOO
C COS
5axo.rst
scotty86d
Charlie Chalk
maxrs16
LS35A
s1kid
GUZZLER
M K
timturbo
pau1rs
markyd3
MattRS1600i
Sexy-RS
xr3-keith
the sludge
L33 BYT
Jasesapphy
PT
Nash
cfoster

Maybe this is because that they actually know Jano or have had work done by him or they know someone close to them that Jano has worked on their car.

rsdene

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my brother took his s2 there, and well............ what a waste of time just made the problem 10x worse, didnt seem to know what he was doing.

drove straight to jamsport and they sorted the problem,

COMEDY DAN

Surely this is enough pages of blurb for the topic starter to make a decision.

Surely its not going to go on for another 10 pages, and cups of tea and biscuits....

Martyn

10 pages... as little as that?

Gary F

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Sounds to me like your keys fucked
I've never heard of a key clicking before

COMEDY DAN

Charlie Chalk

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Having met Jano loads of times, and delt with him... Not got any problems at all, He even delievered my GRS intercooler by hand, driving from Essex to West London

Giving me and a few other's i know Info on several cars


Makes me laugh, how you get 'keyboard warriors' who don't know the guy, come on here and slate him just because what they read, Very grown up I must say!

timturbo

[quote="scotty86d"]ive been to powers and spoken to ian there and he helped me out in his lunch hour. nice chap

ian really knows his stuff was talking to him for hours when went down power many mixed things about power engineering could speak highly enough of ian he works on the tuning and mapping side, over the road is the lyk mechanics workshop who do take there time.

Sexy-RS

Exactly Rad!

We was on our way to southend one night on the 127 and Alexs cabrio was shaking all over the place pulled over and after having a wheel put on we found someone had hand tightened the nuts The wheel was hanging off! We did not have a wheel brace so gave Jano a call as he was the only person we had a number for who lived in essex lol He was not in the area but went out of his way and called round and sent one of his freinds out to us with tools His a sound bloke

S2martin

Bit late in the thread i guess but might as well carry on lol..

When i got my last s2 last year i had a few problems with it and didnt want to drive it far due to a fueling issue so someone said try Jano as he is lit a 5 mins drive from my house..

Now to be fair i didnt fancy taking it there as i read on here he is a bit of a knob but i thought i'll try him the once and see for myself in case he wasn't lol

Now i can honestly say when i got there he listened to what i had to say spent about an hour with me and the car just checking EVERYTHING over not just the fueling like i asked he then sorting out the amal valve for me as it was fucked and just generaly (spl) made me as a customer feel very confident in his abilities with my erst....

Now i'm not brown nosing him or fuck all but he doesnt deserve the rep he gets on here at all as not once did he mention to me cossie management not once did he try to sell me anything and he charged me next to nothing for spending a couple of hours on my car even to the point of when i tried to give him an extra score for a drink he said leave off just get me a tea at a meet or something lol

So i would def use him again as he honestly to me seemed a genuine guy who knows what he is doing with the rs turbo.. i can't say anything about what he is like with cossies as i never took either of mine to him.

Mart

RichardPON

I wasn't going to bother replying to this, but putting utterly thick cunts in their place is what everyone should aim to do

I never said for one minute that you couldn't diagnose engine problems by listening to an engine in most instances. It was simply that you suggested that this was a reason to go to Jano, as if it was something he did over and above any other tuner. What's he running? A premium rate phone line so you diagnose engine problems down the phone?

As for Rudey's drivel about what information I have, I didn't go searching for anything. In my previous quest to ask Jano how he managed to achieve 230bhp @ fly on a standard RST engine on cossie management and various other bollocks, I was emailed a massive amount of information regarding this fella's business practices. I also have personally seen a cossie management installation that looks like it was wired in by my 5 year old cousin and was downright dangerous. The reason I haven't posted any of this is that I'm NOT going out of my way to discredit anyone's business.

However, I simply posted to give the guy the general information I had about Jano in order for him to make an informed decision. The fact that he lies continually and copies other people's work then claiming it is his own should be reason enough not to hand over money to this fella.

The last time this happened, he claimed to work at West LB in the city. When quized by people when he worked there, it was proven that he didn't at all, and was simply lying in order to bolster his appearance..... and then again with more things than I care to remember. How does that support someone's credibility?

As Guzzler said, having worked in this industry does not make me an engine expert, but it arms you with information about tuners history etc that would blow your mind. As I said, I'm not out to discredit anyone, as he does that well enough himself - only giving the overview of what information I have so this guy knows who he's spending his money with if he goes there.

RichardPON

So you have to "know" the guy to have information on his business practices.

I thought the guy asked about Jano as a tuner, not as a friend or what his personality was like?

Or would you consider it more "grown up" for me not to give out information I had simply because you don't agree with it?

Anyway, I'm done. I've given the guy information, and it's up to him how he proceeds. No doubt some of Jano's cars have banged in some proper fast times, and that old S1 was quite a nice car. However, whilst I might dislike customers of certain tuners like MAD for example, I would always recommend someone goes there simply because it's a solid trustworthy reliable and very good company. IMO, the same can't be said for Jano, although no doubt there will be a bunch of "keyboard warriors" who are going to tell me I'm not entitled to my opinion even if it is based on fact.

Have fun kiddies.

belcher

jano is a top man

big up all oddkidd's
can you tell me where u can go and see more that one erst you would like to own. oddkidd's have some of the nicest car's in essex

DanS

His modeling agency ripped up his contract after the "double chin" appeared

Anyway, back to the arguing

Zetec_mk4_XR3i

fookin hell, four pages so far

Not met Jano or used him as such but he's given he advice a few times over the net when i diagnosed a problem and how to go forward, very good advice and straight away - seems like a good guy who i'd use happily - prices are good too.

Charlie Chalk

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Its helps yes! Take me for example I go see Danny to get to know the guy and have a general chat.. After all Im spending a fair wack of cash with his business.. I dont wanna just let him do the work, pay him and fuck off. People are going to and have asked..

" Whats Adrenaline Like!" "Whats the work like" " Whats Danny like" etc..


When did I say he didnt?! I was just answering you...


If you dont know much about Jano and his business, then no?! I wouldnt say half the stuff you have on this forum, about ANY tuners, even though I do have stuff to say about one or two.. But me being me, I keep it to myself..



Done, didnt you say that on the last page

And you are entitled to your opinion.. But only if its right IMO!

No kiddies here

CossieRich

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So after 4 pages of utter lunacy and amusement, is SGT Pepper taking his rs to jano or not

Charlie Chalk

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With all the arguments etc, He probably wont be seen again on PF

CossieRich

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rofl

ballin

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not had tuning done by Jano but got a few bits off him and seemed like a decent bloke.

i suppose whats coming next is the bit about a 'rather well known tuner/supplier' being heavily involved in TWOC'ing a few years back

CossieRich

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now you've done it

buckle up

Chip

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Be more specific, cause thats most of them

Butch.

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So! so far some people think jano is good and some people think he's shit i wouldnt know as i havent ever delt with jano!!

And some people saying that jamsport are shite and others say its good well as ive worked for jamie i dont want to comment to much but when i was working there all the work got done and the customers were happy dont know how differnt that is now but i would have thought i was still doing well........




but lol out this thread

Daveyboy

Alright Chap I think a few people on here are under the assumption that you are now 'unseen menace' mate

Daveyboy

Dude, ive seen him post - i know it aint you

up until now i never needed to point it out to anyone though

Hope you're keeping well fella