frosty

moving house shortly as we got another baby on the way as this one ain't big enough, soon as we moved going too be buying an EVO 7 or 8, i know a few people on here have got EVO's and just wanted a few opinions on the 2 cars just so i can make me mind up on what too buy....cheers....

cfoster

I prefer the 7's but never owned an 8. I love the front of the 7's. (8's looks a little too rounded!). Underneath though I think they are pretty much the same (depending on models)

Chris

Basky

if 0nly they made an escort cosbine in a 4 dr model craig,
personally like the 6s better,and when they go wrong it,ll probably
be a recall

Dicko&Vacant

iTrader: (3)

whatever you do though mate please dont sell your escos for one

Basky

i did
only cause we needed a 4dr for the bin lids
back to cossie now tho

rstoughy

iTrader: (5)

I did as well and have done more miles in the Evo since picking it up in Jan than i did with the Escort in 2yrs

Got a 7 RS2 FQ300 and pretty impressed with it for an "out of the box" car

frosty

don't worry the cossies stopping in my possesion, did think about selling it but changed my mind, need 4 doors again so its an excuse too have an EVO (well my excuse any way)...

aduz

7

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

other than the gearbox, my evo 8 had a 6 speed
and i prefer the 5 speed boxes in the evo 7,the 6 speed feel notchy and slower to change imo.

i think from a rallying pov you may notice a differance but not as a
road car it wasn't a big evolution the jump from a 7 to a 8

frosty

was just wondering whether the 8's are worth the extra money for the fq...

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

its getting to the stage where you can find 8's for less than 7's
they also did 7fq's too(no 6 speed though)
but why get a 7fq when you may find a 8 for simmilar wedge
i have seen 8's for 10 and a half grand 54 plate but the 260 model
5 speed and only 260 hp.
evos though are just begging to be modified so i would rather have
a 8 260 for cheep money and spend a few bob getting it to fq spec
or higher.
i prefer the 7 for rallying reasons, it was the last proper group a car
ralliart did,the 8 was only a international group n car.
i saw alister mcrae in the evo7 gp a car and it was AMAZING
and tbh i prefer the looks of it,plus the 9 looks too much like a 7 imo

MikeR

We should have a sticky for Evo owners and wannabee owners

Right i wanted a TME but got offered such a good deal that i brought mine brand new, i have a MR FQ 320, out the box it is a weapon with some tweaking it is awsome. I do not really keep up on the prices as i am neither selling it or conserned about depriciation.

I do not see the point buying the 340 unless you want the sat nav and alcantra seats and the extra 20 bhp, as if you plan on modding it then the potential extra you have paid only buys you the seats and sat nav.

I have a 6 speed and on long runs the 6th certainly makes a huge difference to the revs and fuel consumption.

Do i like it, i fucking love it it is a very fun car to drive (have never drivern a cossie but been in a few genuine 400bhp ones) and as a point to point car out of the box i think very little will touch it, all this crap about a cossie can if i do x y and z maybe so, but let me do similar mods and then we return to square one again get my point

I prefer the front of the 7 and the rear of a 9 but these are all things that can be changed at a later date and i probably will change.

Mike

Tangodeltasierra3

Buy my 6 lol its lovely.

Redkop

An VIII anyday of the week

Compare the 2 models together in full HERE

MODEL HISTORY
VII
The Lancer Evolution VII brought along the Lancer Cedia Body styling and improved engineering features and elegant body styling. The Body kit design accommodatse a wider track rim and wheel selection. The Body frame is a larger size but has retained strength while giving a lighter weight.

For its front suspension, Evolution VII retains the MacPherson strut arrangement - with its legendary handling and straight line stability characteristics - extensively optimized to the model's new dimensions. Cornering performance - from initial response right up to the limit - has been improved in a well-balanced manner by widening the track, optimizing the roll center height and increasing the bump stroke by 15mm. The steering gear box has been lowered to realize greater linearity in toe changes, and to increase vehicle stability when turning.

Evolution 7 features a new Active Center Differential using an electronically controlled variable multi-plate clutch. The ACD boasts a differential limiting capacity three times greater than that of the viscous coupling-type differential used to date. In addition, the ACD's ability to tailor slippage for different driving conditions brings levels of steering response and traction control not possible with a viscous coupling differential. A 3-way manual override switch enables the driver to select Tarmac, Gravel or Snow modes to suit his preferences or conditions. The ACD also frees the differential on operation of the parking brake - thereby enabling the driver to make more effective use of side brake turns in rallies and other events.

Improvements to the turbocharger, larger capacity intercooler and oil cooler, and the use of triple-nozzle auto-adjust intercooler sprays (with manual override) realize class-topping maximum torque of 282lbs/ft at 3500rpm as well as a wider torque band. To accommodate the increase in torque, the transfer, propeller shaft and drive shaft specifications have all been uprated

MODEL HISTORY
VIII

Evolution VIII, takes a further step up the evolutionary ladder with the introduction of Super AYC, a 6-speed close ratio manual transmission and other cutting-edge automobile technology.

Evolution VIII’s more aggressive and hi-quality exterior incorporates the defining elements of the new MMC design identity. It also features significant advances in aerodynamic and cooling performance reaped from extensive testing during development on the Nürburgring in Germany and in MMC’s own advanced wind tunnel facility. Reducing drag and lift, Evolution VIII’s exterior lines give it better high-speed straight line stability and handling through corners than its predecessor. The design also achieves the increased cooling performance necessary to extract the full potential of the new model’s uprated power plant and drivetrain. The hot air extraction vents in the engine hood, meanwhile, are 60% larger than on Evolution VII and with an improved heat protector design double the effective area. The rear spoiler uses carbon fiber-reinforced plastic for both horizontal and vertical components – a world-first on a 4-door production sedan.

The powerplant now generates class-topping torque of 290lbs/ft at 3500rpm, the result of optimizing the turbocharging characteristics of the twin-scroll turbocharger to increase boost pressure to 40mm Hg around peak torque. Engine durability and reliability have also been improved by uprating the aluminum pistons and forged steel con rods. With a number of other ranges the engine is now 2.5kg lighter.

Standard on the GSR, Evolution VIII uses a 6-speed close ratio gearbox to maximally utilize the extra torque generated by the uprated engine.

AYC has come under criticism in some quarters for not transferring enough torque to match the increased power outputs of the latest Evolution models when shod with high-grip tires and driven on race circuit or other high-friction surfaces. Responding to this, MMC developed and now introduces Super AYC after carefully calculating torque transfer requirements under simulated race conditions. Switching from the use of a bevel gear to a planetary gear differential, the new unit is able to transfer twice the torque of the current AYC.

saff_cossie

VII over the VIII. I know plenty of people with both here but prefer the lines of the VII which I have. Few pics and vids of mine floating around on here.

Some vids: www.youtube.com/safcos

Redkop

Looks over performance or performance over looks?

I'd choose performance and newer technology over the slight frontal changes from the VII to the VIII.

VIIs are older cars - so why choose an older car without the newer VIII's technology just on looks?

cozzfather
I don't think so!

frosty
The FQs are seen as UK cars and will command more money than an imported VIII GSR like mine is.... 280bhp. With a few mods this can be easily brought up to the UK spec of an FQ300. There is hardly any difference and a lot of insurance companies don't load you for it being an import either.

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

lynne i have see some cheep evo 8's for a lot less than
some people want for evo 7's
i have seen evo8's for around 11 grand,and looking on the autotrader
you can spend more than that on a 7
its a good thing for us 7 owners that they seem to imo gaining
in popularity.

saff_cossie

My VII is more punchy than my mates 8MR. The gear box is tighter in mine as are the seats. He has had a fairly major gearbox failure with the 6 speed also. With mine the box is very springy between gears where as his is quite floaty (difficult to describe but mine is more like the arcades)The VII's here are about 2-3K pounds less than the 8MR's too.

I am not a fan of the 8 rear spoiler either so a few things I prefer the VII on. IX, nice car but has even more things I dislike over the VII.

So in short, very happy with the VII and personally believe it to be the best choice from the VII, VIII, IX.

Redkop

I went all through AutoTrader after you posted..... a fair few VIIs under 12k mostly between 12-13k there are a few Evo VIII 260s but damned if I can find an FQ or GSR cheaper than a VII. Most of the VIIIs are going for more money than a VII.

There's so many mis-described Evos on AutoTrader - it's unbelievable, some of these sellers are totally clueless to what model they are actually selling There's loads saying Evo VIII GSR when in fact they are only an Evo 260 model

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

when i say i have seen evo 8 for around 11 grand (and under)
they were at british car auctions, but they did sell for that price
in the trade they are well behind what enthusiasts think they are worth
and in my experiance people will buy from anywhere if the price is right
you will have to trust me when i say,i have seen 8's for less than 7's
and that includes the autotrader

PT

Take you evo 8 blinkers off redkop

rstoughy

iTrader: (5)

I paid more for my VII than my mate did for his VIII. We both bought them in Jan this year.

heres the links to the for sale adds for them both just to give you an idea.

Also i paid a little over the odds for mine compared to others but it is a stunner

His VIII
http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...hreadid=114864


My VII
http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...hreadid=134460

Redkop

Why? It's a no-brainer that a newer technology car is going to be better, that's why its called EVOLUTION or aren't you aware what evolution means?

Redkop

People can put 'silly' prices on what they think it's worth, but it doesn't necessarily mean they will get that price. At the end of the day - a car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

rstoughy

iTrader: (5)

That is so true,

Take a look at the adds and you will see that the VIII has everything on it including Coilovers / big brakes ect yet my VII only has a set of wheels basically. Both were advertised around the same price but i decided that i didnt need another modified car what with having the 3 door so decided on going for the best VII that i could find.

Like i said in one of my earlier posts for a standard car it deffo ticks all the boxes

PT

evolution takes time, not 2 weeks before another model comes out

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

Toughy
Mr Hunter bought the 8 eh? Did the rouse sell?


As for every evo owner here having there own biased opinion to their own model its not on. Now i dont have an evo so i think i can speak unbiased and i FAR prefer the 8 lol

Redkop

What are you on about?

PT

lol im winding you up hon

rstoughy

iTrader: (5)

Chops,

Yes and Yes,

The Rouse was sold in Jan to Stevetoon off of here and he just sold it on last week.

STUCOS

iTrader: (8)

Bargain evo 7 here for under 8k

cheeRS stu

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www...00713277019206

Redkop

Standard or near standard cars are harder to find, when I was looking I didn't want a modded one as I had the modded Escos too. Luckily I found an excellent example of one with 17k on the clock and got it at a much, much lower price than it was advertised at even lower than what you or your mate paid, although it was advertised for a lot more...

I notice that the heavily modded VIII your mate bought had been 'for sale' since June of last year until he bought it in Jan this year. So it does go to show if you're not in a hurry to sell, you can hang out for a price you want.

Luckily I got the price I asked for my Escos which was quite a bit more than some are being sold for currently.

Redkop

LOL @ 'With engine problems it is running on 3 cylinders'

frosty

well....plenty of opinions there ....cheers....

S1rst

Neither. If you really have to get one id get a 6.

M.A.D.RST

VI or IX

These are my options

Red16

if youre handy with the spanners, buy this one and make it a bargain

remember a stroker kit (steel crank, steel rods, forged pistons and rings, big end and journal bearings) can be had from around $1500

could be a 'cheap' big performance car

but i'd agree with this man best looking evo ever made imo and i drive an Evo V

rallycross

have owned both.

Evo 7 good value now.
EVO 8 a better car, 6 speed and larger fuel tank make a big difference.

If you can stretch to an VIII MR then much better again than the early VIII's, the bilsteins made a huge diffence/improvement ,the MR is a better car but of course costs more as newer.

frosty

don't really want start messing with another car had enough of cossies for the last 15 years or so, and too be honest don't really like the looks of a 6, but everyone too there own i s'pose, do like the 8's tho.....

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

i forgot to say that i reckon the big cock up with evo prices was
because of the evo 8 260, my local ralliart dealer once was selling
them new for 18 grand,so if your the sort of not clued up
car buyer who had got it into their head that they want a "EVO 8"
are you gonna spend 18 grand or 50 or whatever the 400 was.
that car "the 260" cocked a lot of it up.
i saw evo owners taking huge hits on depreciation,when a few years
before the evo8 260 they had excellent residuals