Chip

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Asusming you cant afford 3500 (seems a fair assumption) then your first port of call now needs to be getting the car back from the dealer.

Phone them up and say that you cant afford the repair and the warranty company wont pay that much, so you dont wish them to do any more to it.

Ask them if there is a charge (of course there is but I would still word it that way) for what they have done so far.

BEFORE doing that though, find someone who can trailer it back to your house, you must know someone with a tow bar and a car trailer is only 25 quid a day round here, so im sure it is up there as well, trailer it home, then you have time to work out what you are going to do.


Did you speak to the dealer about costs before you instructed them to start work on it?
I always advise anyone taking their car to a garage to set a limit of how much they are prepared to spend before recieving a phone call asking for permission to do further work.

Chip

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Jay, is the car on HIRE PURCHASE FINANCE with carcraft?

If so, there is almost certainly the option of handing it back to them.


I can find out a little more about this from our legal guys possibly as I actually write finance software for a living at the moment.

89xr2

Call martin like porkie first suggested and ask him to put an engine in. It wont be anywhere near the amount.

As for legal advice i'll give you some for free, granted i'm not qualified but you know, you pay peanuts you get....

You drove home knowing your car was fucked just because you had a date. It's not the people you bought it from's fault as no matter how many inspections an engine get's things can still go wrong. It's just one of those things, call martin and see what he can do. And next time if your car sounds fucked, it usually is. And if theres a flashy light giving you a free disco it IS fucked.

Chip

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Expensive date, would have been cheaper to hire:
A hotel room
A limo
2 high class whores

BlueSmoke

Thanks for the advice mate. When I spoke to them last, the dealer told me the score witht he warranty etc and I said I would have to speak to Carcraft so I don't think they will have done anything yet.

Maybe I should buy a Scorpio Cossie estate as my runaround just so I can tow the fucking Leon

BlueSmoke

If I get a replacement engine though, won't it have to be a Seat branded one even though they're the same, as wouldn't the insurers know if the engine put in was an Audi branded one from the engine number and try to insure me as being modified?

BlueSmoke

Chip, what you're talking about is Voluntary Surrender and Voluntary Termination.

Surrender is where you give the car back, the finance co sell it at auction, take off what the car makes and you have to repay the rest. This is done after they issue you a settlement figure of course, but still leaves an outstanding balance that could be thousands.

Termination is when you reach halfway through the term and hand the car back, and make no further payments on it.

Gregs

dont live on here, you have 6000+ posts lol

89xr2

Can't you claim on your car insurance for the engine going?

Turbosystems

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your policy might be £300 per individual claim limited to a total of 1295 for all claims how much was the policy

Charlie Chalk

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Nail ,head..

Phil

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DogSmoke
How much have you paid off of the car so far?

If not much then by my reckoning (I don't know much about this stuff) but I would just dump the car on Carcrafts doorstep and tearup the finance agreement, cancel the direct debit and let them reposess it. You already have bad credit anyway Seriously though you will get a bad credit rating, but if you have learnt not to use credit then does it matter that much?

cheeky dog

Bit harsh.

We all fuck up in life. Sometimes by missing something small like the warrenty thing.

i agree driving with the engine light was silly but as said before, when were put on the spot we forget simple things.

but your warrenty confusion needs to be sorted, they might have screwed you on that.

We all fuck up mate. its my middle name

Graham S1

Beleive me, a Granada will NOT help your problems at the moment.

indycos

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definitely not

ivorbiggun

Tow it away and 'loose it'/ you HAVE got it insured haven't you?

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...Dogsmoke will you look at your warranty book please and see what the max is per claim?.....if you buy a car and it breaks down within 3 months you can take the car back if bought from the trade...its called consumer protection..BUT they get away with that if they give you a warranty...i tried to buy my Ducati for cash from a proper trader and said they couldnt sell it without a warranty..so got a 1k per claim,unlimited for 1 year ...also my mondeo i bought for the missus came with a 3 month warranty...this covers the trader from what i said earlier

Chip

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Yes mate, thats the one I was thinking of, I dont know where you stand if you keep paying your loan now till halfway then hand it back with a fucked engine.
Not sure if they can charge you for that or not.

bigchez

Sounds the best idea so far. Until you get caught for insurance fraud.

Graceland

Doggers - get on msn

BlueSmoke

Cheers Gracie.

I need to work out what's what lol.

Rick

Jay, u need to get it back from the dealer. You don't HAVE to fix it in a rush - when u can afford it, get Martin to do it.

You don't need anything fancy to tow it - just a car and a rope! If you can't find anyone to do that, I'll do it in the S2 - done it loads of times

Also, do as Phil says and get us the warranty info.

dojj

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some questions need answering first before you can get anywhere on this

how long is the hp agreement for?
how much of that have you actually paid off?
whats the car worth when you bought it?
whats the car worth now if they try to sell it?
how much do "you" owe the garage?
will the warranty cover the garage costs?
if you bin the car and scrap the credit agreement how much shit will you be in?
we all know the answer to the "how fucked over were you by buying the warrenty?" and "is the warrenty worth the paper it's printed on?" (the answers being "lots" and "no")

walk away from it with no money in your pocket would be the best idea, doing a "i've had the car stolen" will do you no favours whatsoever

BlueSmoke

Phil they didn't give me a warranty, I bought one with a seperate company, that was offered to me at the time I bought the car. It is not a warranty issued by Carcraft. How do I stand with that?

Rick - cheers mate. Appreciate the offer. Looks like I'm gonna need to get the car from Huddersfield to Wakefield....

Dannn

Why do people feel they need a car that badly they will fucked themselves to buy it. Can't get my head round it.

I am 32 and earn good money- enough to buy something nice or to even fix my Escort.

But what car do I drive round in - one of two 309 diesel sheds, both worth around £20LOL!!

Even when the Escort was on the road I still drove round in whatever shed I had at the time.

Seriously why do people do it ?

Dannn

DogSmoke

Tell you what to do, buy a shed to drive round in (no more than £100 with lots of MOT) , pay the bill so far at the garage, drag the Seat home and leave it.

Then when you have some money and can really afford it, fix the leon.

Rick

Jay - u may be covered by this three month trade thing.

You need to find out FAST - as it's 29th TOMORROW!!

If u can't find anyone nearer, i'll tow the car to wakefield.

BlueSmoke

Found this on trading standards:

The onus is normally on you rather than the trader to prove a claim, i.e. that the car is defective in some way. However, the law now states that if you are claiming replacement, repair, full or partial refund within the first six months of ownership, the onus is on the trader to prove that the goods were acceptable when they were sold. This is called the ‘reversed burden of proof’.

If they don't carry out the claimed checks then they could be onto a loser here.

However, if I have no joy with them then I'm probably going to get it repaired, get a settlement figure, and sell it. I want out now, I've lost faith. The warranty ain't worth a shit, I've already been conned out of a promised £700 cashback on the car because "oh there's no record of that being offered" and now I dunno what will be next to develop a fault.

As I have made a large contribution to it being damaged so badly (the snapped cam etc) I'm not gonna push it. If I get no joy then I will do as I have said above. I just want out now. Rather do that and spend £2k on an E36 for the time being.

James

ok, did carcraft service it or claim they serviced it before they sold it to you and do you have this in writing?

If yes ask the garage what they think has caused the blockage, if they are unsure ask them to cut open the oil filter too inspect it.

There is a chance they never serviced it and the filter has broken down internally causing the blockage. In which case you can go back to carcraft and say i have the report from seat which says the filter caused the fault and your guys did the service.

It's also possible they did service and you actually have a faulty filter in which case you'll have to contact the manufacturer of the filter but this is unlikely.

The warrentys are never worth shit best take that up with the warrenty company yourself.

Leaving it on cacrafts doorstep won't help because i suspect the finance agreement is with another company, carcraft won't care.

big_wig_074

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-8-turbo-engi...QQcmdZViewItem

heres one on ebay! just change the cover to the seat one if it bothers you.!

Tangodeltasierra3

Why have i wasted 10 minutes reading this

Matt Evans

Heres my two penneth...

What casued the engine failure almost 100% is a blocked oil strainer (pick up pipe). Having worked at a VAG main dealer, this happens lots and lots, caused by servicing being missed and or the wrong grade of oils used. IF caught in time, and its a big if (ie the oil light just flickering) you can get away with it, change the strainer & away you go.

I saw a1.8 20vT (Audi a4 1.8T sport - 02 reg) engine the other day with exactly the same failure, caused exactly by the same level of "Fuck it, i'm not bothering to look" attitude. That had been driven for 85 miles with the fuckin light on....Both cams were snapped, turbo was siezed solid, bores scorred etc. Quite rightly the warranty company took one look, and put it down to driver abuse, basically beacuse they carried on regardless.

You say the car was a lease car in a previous life, well probably it was on variable intervals(the car tells you when it needs servicing based on mileage/useage/time etc), it has probably had the shit kicked out of it, used loads of oil, and the sump would be full of shit.

IF you go down the route of a 2nd hand engine, do yourself a favour & get the sump whipped off & change the strainer..

The warranty company will if pushed, instruct an independant engineer to strip the engine (partially). Once they see the cams snapped,cam bearings blackened with heat, they will :-

a.) tell you to fook off
b.) invoice you for the engineers time (not cheap)

Best of luck.

Butch.

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well if you need a engine i know where there is a engine for sale with 60000 miles on with full service history so if you get stuck and start looking for an engine let me know

Cossie Helen

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Not sure why i have done it myself either.


Still cant quite belive you drove 60 miles with the warning light on, its common sense really that if a warning light comes on theres a problem somewhere.


Seems you have a lot of offers of help, maybe you should take them up, it may get your engine sorted a lot cheaper.

Stu @ M Developments

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Fooking Spiders!!
That quote just cleared me of enthusiasm to help!!

Chip

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I still want to help, but I just realise that help in this instance has nothing to do with him getting a new engine and everything to do with kicking him in the bollocks and shouting "dont be a stupid cunt" at him.

Have to be cruel to be kind at times like these

BlueSmoke

Lol. I've actually calmed down a bit now and although I will speak to Carcraft to see if I can get anything done, but I'm not going to push it if not.

My current plan of action to be honest is get the car back minus the engine, pay the £224 the garage are owed for the labour so far, speak to Martoon and see what price he wants to source and fit an engine for me.

I'm pretty pissed off with myself to be honest now I've calmed down and realised how stupid I've been. Wish people wouldn't be so harsh though, at the end of the day I've only been driving 2 years as of this month and don't really have a lot of experience of things going wrong.

Butch - care to PM me mate?

Cheers all who have helped or tried to help. I really do appreciate it. I've got to stop and think about stuff and stop making foolish mistakes..... I really have.

I'm actually thinking about getting a settlement quote once it's fixed and possibly selling the car and then pay off the last bit of remaining finance. I'm just in the process of following up getting my bank charges back so the money from the car + the charges could get me free of Carcraft. I just want out now as I've lost faith from a cobination of the car obviously not being serviced by them and the £700 cashback they screwed me out of.

I accept it's my fault the engine's now knackered so no need for anyone else to put the boot in!

Chip

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Jay, people like to really stick the boot in cause if nothing else at least it hammers home the point to others just about to potentially make similar mistakes.

Hope martoon can sort you out at a reasonable price

BlueSmoke

Suppose you're right Chip.

If I do end up getting shut of it, I think I'm gonna go back to an E36 for a year, possibly a 328 Sport. Haven't really thought about it yet but my 325 never let me down. Miss that car loads now

Lambchop

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do you ever learn?!?!?!