Oops, we've upset scoobynet........lol
13-09-2004 | 04:48 PM
#163
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Originally Posted by Phil
You really don't have the slightest clue about cossies do you 
You need ATLEAST 0.5 lbs of fuel per HP per hour.
328 cc x 4 = 1312 cc per minute
1312 / 1000 = 1.312 litres per minute
1.312 x 60 = 78.72 litres per hour
78.72 x 1.63 lbs = 128.3 lbs per hour
128.3 lbs x 2 = 256 HP
This is with the standard cosworth fuel pressure of 3 bar.
13-09-2004 | 05:06 PM
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NMS Stage 1+ uses standard injectors and makes 295bhp/320lbf ft.
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
13-09-2004 | 05:13 PM
#165
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Originally Posted by Ratty
NMS Stage 1+ uses standard injectors and makes 295bhp/320lbf ft.
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
13-09-2004 | 05:27 PM
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lmfao @ performance stats from gran tourismo!!!
must say i do prefer the supra that looks like the bat mobile and not that red one.
must say i do prefer the supra that looks like the bat mobile and not that red one.
13-09-2004 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Anh
Originally Posted by Ratty
NMS Stage 1+ uses standard injectors and makes 295bhp/320lbf ft.
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
13-09-2004 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Anh
Originally Posted by Ratty
NMS Stage 1+ uses standard injectors and makes 295bhp/320lbf ft.
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Originally Posted by www.norrismotorsport.co.uk
Stage 1
This conversion is a huge improvement over standard and involves the fitment of a new "chip" to the ECU and the fitment of a new wastegate actuator. I use a genuine Garret 31 item as these are superior in quality and operation to the usual alloy type. In addition I advise the fitment of a K&N type panel filter in the standard air box. The boost is then set to 16psi, the spark plugs either changed or gapped as appropriate and along with a general setup around 270bhp/270lbf ft can be expected.
Stage 1+
This is a recent development of my stage 1 conversion and takes the std engine to an even higher state of performance. This conversion however can only be performed on engines in excellent health or those which have undergone a complete rebuild. Likewise the turbo must be in excellent condition and preferably be fitted with a 360degree thrust bearing. Again a new "chip" is fitted to the ECU along with a Garret -31 actuator, and suitable plugs fitted and gapped if required. For 2wd cars I advise the fitment of a 4X4 Sapphire Intercooler. Coupled with a full setup this chip allows the car to run in excess of 22psi between 2500rpm and 5000rpm, then dropping to 17psi by 6000rpm and finally tailing to 14psi at the 7000rpm limiter. This setup normally results in around 295bhp/320lbf ft.
This conversion is a huge improvement over standard and involves the fitment of a new "chip" to the ECU and the fitment of a new wastegate actuator. I use a genuine Garret 31 item as these are superior in quality and operation to the usual alloy type. In addition I advise the fitment of a K&N type panel filter in the standard air box. The boost is then set to 16psi, the spark plugs either changed or gapped as appropriate and along with a general setup around 270bhp/270lbf ft can be expected.
Stage 1+
This is a recent development of my stage 1 conversion and takes the std engine to an even higher state of performance. This conversion however can only be performed on engines in excellent health or those which have undergone a complete rebuild. Likewise the turbo must be in excellent condition and preferably be fitted with a 360degree thrust bearing. Again a new "chip" is fitted to the ECU along with a Garret -31 actuator, and suitable plugs fitted and gapped if required. For 2wd cars I advise the fitment of a 4X4 Sapphire Intercooler. Coupled with a full setup this chip allows the car to run in excess of 22psi between 2500rpm and 5000rpm, then dropping to 17psi by 6000rpm and finally tailing to 14psi at the 7000rpm limiter. This setup normally results in around 295bhp/320lbf ft.
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/cosworthstages.html
13-09-2004 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Anh
Originally Posted by Phil
You really don't have the slightest clue about cossies do you
13-09-2004 | 06:13 PM
#173
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Karls stg1+ uses FAR more fuel pressure than standard you goon.
And i thought base pressure was far more than 3bar? And bearing in mind its a rising rate reg, your talking well over 4bar on full boost even if it IS 3bar.
And a std fuelpump for a sierra cossie is good for about 400bhp so thas not relavent...
And i thought base pressure was far more than 3bar? And bearing in mind its a rising rate reg, your talking well over 4bar on full boost even if it IS 3bar.
And a std fuelpump for a sierra cossie is good for about 400bhp so thas not relavent...
13-09-2004 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
And i thought base pressure was far more than 3bar?
Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
And bearing in mind its a rising rate reg, your talking well over 4bar on full boost even if it IS 3bar.
13-09-2004 | 06:18 PM
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Id say prepare to be shot down in flames for that im afraid Steve (Depending on his knowledge, but he seems well informed)... im off home for tea, il log in to evaluate the carnage later
13-09-2004 | 06:24 PM
#176
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Hi can't be arsed to read the whole post so I'll jump in from here.
I used to drive aSupra Turbo, and they have the WORST handling
I've ever felt! Sloppy like one of Steves leftover whores!
Oh Hi, and Welcome, when I get home from work, I might read it from the
begining.
I used to drive aSupra Turbo, and they have the WORST handling
I've ever felt!
Sloppy like one of Steves leftover whores! Oh Hi, and Welcome, when I get home from work, I might read it from the
begining.
13-09-2004 | 06:24 PM
#177
i'm fed up of seeing all these bloody scooby's on the road! notice that they all have their bloody blue jackets and hat's... and dress the family up the same! takes the piss. plus they they think they own the road! i love seeing a 15 year old cossie eat em for breakfast 
can't wait to get my escos on the road and show em' who's boss!
can't wait to get my escos on the road and show em' who's boss!
13-09-2004 | 06:38 PM
#178
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Originally Posted by Anh
Originally Posted by Ratty
NMS Stage 1+ uses standard injectors and makes 295bhp/320lbf ft.
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Oh, and i know what parts were used as i watched Karl fucking use them
13-09-2004 | 06:52 PM
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Ive mentioned this before but just in case the Supra owner is reading I have owned both scooby and cosworth, both modified, first power run I had on the scooby was running 286bhp at the flywheel and 195 bhp at the wheels, and that is STI power, it was then modded to run more hp and I can say as an everyday quick car the cossie is better and faster. And to get any decent horsepower from a scooby you also need to change the intercooler and turbo unless you get one of the models that came standard with the TD05.
13-09-2004 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
And bearing in mind its a rising rate reg, your talking well over 4bar on full boost even if it IS 3bar.
13-09-2004 | 07:18 PM
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I will dig out the dyno sheet and post it, this was done at Interpro Automotive and I have not heard of any stories about their RR being out, but maybe. The that I was trying to make was that I honestly believe that the cossie is a better car
13-09-2004 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
And bearing in mind its a rising rate reg, your talking well over 4bar on full boost even if it IS 3bar.
13-09-2004 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Anh
Originally Posted by Ratty
NMS Stage 1+ uses standard injectors and makes 295bhp/320lbf ft.
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Even stage 1 makes 270bhp/270lbf ft
http://www.norrismotorsport.co.uk/index2.html
Thanks to 3i for the pic
13-09-2004 | 08:54 PM
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Nah, It's gone quiet on the other side of the fence.
I just thought I'd stick in a post since there's a photo of my arse on this site...... (strange but true!)
What's funny is if you changed the words over ford/scoob you could swap these two threads over and no one would know the difference
I just thought I'd stick in a post since there's a photo of my arse on this site...... (strange but true!)
What's funny is if you changed the words over ford/scoob you could swap these two threads over and no one would know the difference
13-09-2004 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
And bearing in mind its a rising rate reg, your talking well over 4bar on full boost even if it IS 3bar.
13-09-2004 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Davescoob
On another note yellows are 440cc's which should be good for about 330bhp on a well sorted 4cyl, 2.0l engine @4ish bar fuel press.
Could you be thinking of a 440cc yellow injector from another manafacturer????
13-09-2004 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by Davescoob
On another note yellows are 440cc's which should be good for about 330bhp on a well sorted 4cyl, 2.0l engine @4ish bar fuel press.
Could you be thinking of a 440cc yellow injector from another manafacturer????
13-09-2004 | 09:13 PM
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This could well be true. Like I said, I had assumed all manufacturers used a common colour coding.
It would make buying injectors a bit of a gamble though if you're going by colours I would have thought?
Unless of course you alway go to the same manufacturer......
Actually, my current one's are pink, 550cc's. What would that be in the ford world?
It would make buying injectors a bit of a gamble though if you're going by colours I would have thought?
Unless of course you alway go to the same manufacturer......
Actually, my current one's are pink, 550cc's. What would that be in the ford world?
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