LOL, with 9k, I could have built a custom engine transplanted 3 series BMW.

Here's some cars that you can get and modify that are under 9k (including mods)

Nissan 300 ZX TT (Basic mods)
Nissan 200 SX (Advanced mods)


Also, a MK3 can make between 400 - 450 hp at the WHEELS with a simple turbo upgrade that costs no more than £900. All you need is an adjustable fuel pressure regulator OR 550 cc injectors, uprated fuel pump, and and some form of air flow meter bypass (there are a few cheap and expensive options on that). A full-exhaust system is must, and a larger turbo elbow helps spool.

You can get 20-25 MPG even with those mods. The Toyota ECU maybe from the 1980's, but it is sophisticated enough for HP and economy.

My Supra is just BPU right now. It has a modest £300 exhaust and £1 in performance modifications. And lets just say it makes over "280 HP", and get still gets 25 MPG. £20 of ul gives me 120 miles of mixed motorway and city driving.

Reliability is excellent providing that the headgasket it torqued to 70 - 73 lbs/ft with the latest Toyota gasket (or metal gasket). Regular oil changes, and allowing the turbo to cool down after hard driving ensures a long life to the crankshaft and turbo seals.

But of course!!! This info cant be true to the ears of a closed-minded RS enthusiast like yourself, you never disliked facts such as these have you?

I'd have better luck trying to convince a 4 year old that Stanta Claus doesnt exist!

 

Anh, I like how you put a copyright notice in your sig

At the end of the day, you have a shite car and need to release some anger by the looks of it

By the way, MK3 Supra's are one of the rustiest bags of shite in the world Don't want to generalise, but they are one of the few cars that rust more than a Sierra

I think you are bitter because your car must be worth a whopping 1500 quid and a similar age Sierra can be worth more

 

pmsl @ Anh

 

I'm not going to buy a mkiii Supra
They are too heavy, look too dated and are just generally rubbish

Nissan 300ZX I like, I really do along with Mk 4 Supras
However these are also a fair bit heavier than the Saph and would need at least 450bhp to stay with the saph and if they went wrong I could not afford to fix them.
Plus they are a fair bit more complicated.
I am a qualified mechanic but the cosworth lends it's self to home tinkering far more than either of those two.

200SX? Assuming you mean the S15? Great cars, good engine, rwd.
I'd be quite happy with one of these however same applies to the home mechanics bit plus I can hand on heart say I prefer the looks of a well modded saph/3door.

I didn't make the choice of a buying a cossie lightly and am not some Ford through and through freak infact the saph is my first ever Ford.

Nothing I've owned even comes close and I know of nothing in my price range that compares either IMO

Maybe I'll sell the saph when Nobles come down in price

 

Ello, my name is Phil, I am too dumb to make a car run well, make any power, look after it properly so therefore such cars are shite!

 

Hi Phil

 

1) Supra is lighter than the 300 ZX TT. Supra Manual Turbo weighs 1540 kg, fully loaded. You must apply the judgement of "too heavy" in relation to other cars you compare.

2) That's fine by me.

3) And gurnE's inner tango rears it's ugly head again! Speaking of "rubbish" and superiority. I'll ask you this again...

...just how is a "£4000" 14 year old Ford Sierra, that requires an engine out, engine reshell, rebuild, uprated turbo, uprated injectors, fuel system and uprated gasket and head bolts which total up to another few thousand that could only JUUUST edge out a mild modded STi Scooby upto 120+ MPH prove to be "superior"??

 

1570kg
auto
knightrider

 

I think you are wrong on the work to be done...

Just a plain old re-map from Karl Norris will see over 300bhp.. exhaust and air filter are probably advised but thats about it!

Now 300bhp and 2wd (260bhpish at the wheels?) on a small relatively low lag turbo

UK Scooby = 220bhp and 4wd.. 160-180bhp at the wheels and a lot more weight!

First gear the Scooby will probably stay ahead but a stage one 2wd cossie can do a low to mid 5sec 0-60 (maybe less with the right driver?) but after that the "I wish i'd bought an Evo" driver will soon be left in a trail of good old smoke/rust/both

 

Hello again! My name is Phil, and I can't tell the difference between an STI and a UK car. Did Anh mention the STi??? Sorry, me Phil can't read!

 

1570 kg, the extra 30 kilos is ICE.
Automatic shifts better and holds boost between shifts.
Knightrider is a black Pontiac Trans AM

How's the cracked engine block going?

 

STi - same shit just melts quicker

 

Ok then

To address this point

Everything you have listed there is not nessicary to edge out a modded Sti

A stage 1 2wd cossie will do that.
Thats a chip and actuator, nothing more, total cost £150 for chip (£20 second hand) and a £70 actuator

A stage 3 2wd cossie will dump on an Sti from a great height with around 320-330bhp!
The cost of this mod???
I believe Stu offers the chip, map sensor, greens and actuator for £465???

In the case of my car I'm a believer in doing something right, doing it once so I used a new block, new pistons and had the lot blue printed and balanced.
Not essential but when asking nearly 400bhp from an 80k engine and expecting reliablity a prudent move I thought?? Wouldn't you agree??

No fancy internals used, after all the YB comes from the factory with steel crank and forged pistons.
Multi layer steel head gasket of course with standard head bolts.

Should be a nice reliable car and as for 'edging' out a mildly modded Sti?? APMSL!
Will be slightly more than that!

 

I stopped caring about this AGES AGO

 

Maybe you need to be schooled in the basics of engine performance tuning!

The STi's can make between 200 - 240+ hp at the wheels modified with the standard turbo, the car weighs between 1230 - 1270 kilos.

A stage 1 Cosworth makes 166 - 200 at the wheels. Unless you are fine with running the standard injectors at 100% duty cycle and 3.5 bar fuel base pressure!. If you chose to make your injectors suicidal, you will also need to upgrade the fuel pump to overcome the extra psi.

So all in all, it takes a little more than a remap to make 260 at the wheels. (That's 320 Hp at the crank by the way, get it right!)

 

Yep and the car spends more time sideways than in a straight line hi gurne
are they still gooooiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnggggggg on

 

 

The power figures I mentioned were estimate flywheel hp as thats the only figure most numpties understand.

I agree that @ wheels bhp is all that matters but if people started quoting those figures every 4x4 owner would start blubbing

 

or maybe you should shut up cause there are more people on here to prove you wrong than right

 

 

At the end of the day, you have still made your sig copyright

 

Please stop that sales man drivel!

A modified STi makes 200 - 240 at the wheels! A stage 1 Cosworth is a basic 30 - 40 hp upgrade from standard CRANK HP, unless you uprate the fuelling (injectors, fuel pressure and pump) then you can run your turbo into the kamikazi levels of PSI and wear that shaft out..

Don't forget the exhaust system too. 2 inch pea shooters don't cut it with the 280 HP you *wish* a stage 1 could have.




Stage 3 is where you call in the T34 hybrid or whatever turbocharger upgrade. The dynos show AT THE WHEELS that the T3 can bearly pass the 200 hp mark on a rwd car.

So add £465 + fuel pump + turbo upgrade to get the real world price for a real 300+ HP.

Hello gurnE, you have been sweating over your car for 2 months while it's off the road, what's wrong with it?

gurnE - oh aye, I MUST show those jap crap cars that my Sierra is faster-err.... I mean superior!, even though I have to spend more time and money on modifications and do much much much more work to make it happen.

Bless him!

 

Actually a bog standard stage 1 on most cossies (if it is running properly) is 270-280bhp, I have never seen one make as low as 230bhp that you seem to think they are unless there is something wrong with it (i.e. actuator usually!)

 

Just exersizing my legal rights!

 

Please please please Phil, do not quote me estimated flywheel pollava. I don't doubt that a standard turbo can make that much power, but it needs more fueling and larger exhaust! It takes more than an uprated actuator and chip to do that.

 

NEW engine is fine thanks, and yeh it did cost more than your starsky and hutch Grand tourer

oh and i dont need ICE in my esco, A)cant hear it and B)to much weight, kerb weight of mine a little over 1050kg stage 3 330bhp, work out the power to weight ratio of that, and then look at the drag coefficients

 

Stage 3 does not require a T34 although a proper stage 3 includes a T34 and RS500 cooler.

Using spiky's car as a good example this made 348bhp on that spec IIRC

3 door/saph fuel pump is fine up to 400bhp, stop talking rubbish

 

Dude u have a old school supra there wanky doo go home

 

So your 280bhp is at the wheels is it?

Errrrrr no it doesn't, 300 can be achieved on std injectors & fuel pump as has been proved by Karl Norris on more than one occasion. 280 is conservative on the injector duty cycle you are obsessed with Plus you don't need an uprated fuel pump until you get above 400bhp

 

All i can say on this is my mate has a prodive sti making circa 300 hp he paid £26000 for it in 2002, i had an old beaten up stg 3 saff cossie i bought for £2k and kicked his arse!!! 2mnths later his is in for a blown lump, and more trick parts.....another £5k spent!!! comes out i kick his arse again!!!!! he gives the sti to his missus as he said all it was good for was shopping in and having little kids point and say look at the rally car!!!!!
he then goes out and blows £50k on a 996 porsche, i take my engine out of my cossie and strip it, mod it, rebuild it (£1500-£2000) i then take it to EA to be set up(£100), we go out the other night and i out drag him from 70 to 120 !!!!!!! he cannot believe it
he has spent now near on £90k on hi-performance cars and i can still beat him in an old beaten up sierra saphire

Pugo

 

class

 

lol i kicked a scoobys ass on the way back from trax!!! 16 years old and still king of the road lol
fords rule!!

 

oh my god Anh, don't you realise how sad your fat arsed Hasslehoff cast off is, get a life you dick!

Oh, & I've copied your sig............ sue me nob jockey!

 

COSSIES ROCK!!!

 

This Anh guy is thicker than Stevie Wonder's Reading Glasses!

 

Anh, you talk more shit than a shit talking shit, that has a PHD in talking shit!

Your car is shit. simple as. you're having a go at us because inside you're severely disappointed that you couldnt afford any form of proper car.

Come back and sell us when you have a proper car.

Until then,

 

Conservative is 80%, which is the generally agreed maximum any car should run an injector at.

Standard injectors would need to run 90% or above for 300 HP.

Like I said before, 300 horses is possible, but not with a 98 litre per hour fuel pump with 20 psi of boost!

You do understand that the more boost you use, the LESS a fuel pump can flow???

 

You mention the word "shit" more than anyone else. You're more better than you know!

 

This is a good fight... Scoobycrap vs Cosworth power

So who's winning ?? Let me guess

 

You really don't have the slightest clue about cossies do you