jr

i know graceland's converted an E30, and renton and a few have got e36 running yb's but anyone got more info on them

take it mounts are all custom, anyidea what prop/diff combo has been used, and also what managment they have used

any info would be

Chip

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Typically (but not always as such things vary by their very nature with "custom" jobs)

Mounts = custom
Gearbox = T5 standard, likewise the clutch
Prop = custom
Diff = BMW standard
Management = YB standard

jr

cheers chip, that pretty much confirmed my thoughts, apart from the prop

anyone got an idea who did rentons conversion (was it martin ?)

Chip

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I believe it was reyland mate yes.

I would imagine the issues were more around clearance for brake servo and things like that, the mechanical side of things with the engine all seems very simple to me.

Chip

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PS

When i said custom prop, I suspect its based on either the ford one with the bmw diff end or the bmw one with the ford gearbox end, so not custom made from scratch, but modified form one of them.

Porkie

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Rentons is FOR SALE if you want an already done one





backseats not that practical though

jr

yep seen that porkie , havent got the ŁŁŁ to buy one done as yet, and even if i did, it would allways be refered to as "rentons bmw"

jr

sounds more promising, and cheaper , that was what i was thinking, but wasnt quite sure if it would be the case

Chip

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Even a totally custom prop is only a couple of hundred quid mate, there isnt much chance of expense there.

Markb_s1

was gonna say... recoprop in luton they're the ones to speak to

Porkie

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unless you go Carbon....

Diablo

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I used to have a really well converted E30 4x4, and always fancied another.

What is the spec of the E36 and how much does he want? PM me if you prefer.

Cheers

ballin

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I'd like to know what he's after also!

Renton

As Roy Walker might say, "it's close, but it's not quite right"

Specially adapted bits on my car include:
Engine mounts (made by Alto Automotive who originally started the conversion for me before going bust)
Hydraulic clutch conversion. (my BMW was the first car Reyland converted and was the RWD development monkey)
Prop. After Alto went bust, Clive at Prism comissioned the prop via RecoProp.
Rear diff. This has been one of the hardest parts of the conversion and is something I've done myself. The original 318iS uses a 3.4:1 which is way too long and isn't LSD. The car now runs an M3 LSD, with ratio changed from 3.15:1 to 3.9:1 - getting that sorted was a total bastard and still isn't 100% finished as the prop needs to be shortened by an inch due to the larger M3 housing.
Speedo. It reads to a Stack dash via a pick-up behind the front brake.
Wipers. E36s know when they're moving and when they're stationary, so the T5 box now runs an electronic output to remind the wipers to work.

Then it's the obvious stuff (intercooler, radiator, exhaust etc.) that can either be a parts bin bodge up (as in the case of the other E36 Cos I've seen) or it can be done properly (one off) like mine is.

Although the battery had to be moved to the boot to allow the ABS pump tp be moved over to clear the Cosworth inlet, the brake system is actually standard. Well, standard if you don't count the AP Racing fronts and M3 rears.

Brief history of the car:
I bought it as a totally standard 318iS around 9 years ago. Shortly after that it went to Alto Automotive in Hockley for the engine conversion. They mounted the engine and box, then folded, so it was shipped to Reyland to get it driving. It was off the road for five years being built and has been in storage for the last 18 months.

I've got a few things to fix over the next month or two, then it will be up for sale. I'm going to be after Ł20k as it is. If there's no interest at that, I intend to sell the seats, audio, roll cage, all the interior bling basically. Then I'll fit a nice leather M3 Evo interior, take the boot spoiler off (or fit a standard boot lid) and keep it!

Here's a pic showing the E46 style front and interior.





PS the engine pic Porkie posted is out of date. It's got a roller bearing turbo with 4in inlet now - can't actually remember the details as it's been a while! It's the Turbo Dynamics one that got 430bhp when on our Sierra engine - it's not running high boost on the BMW though, so isn't running anywhere near that power!

Porkie

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MD240 Turbo

I have not seen it with the new front end! looks awesome. Much better

jr

cheers renton, brilliant info

JjCoDeX75

Imagine how much quicker it would be without all that shit in the back though !

JJ

Renton

And not forgetting all this shit!







I must say though, the sound quality is AMAZING. As you'd expect of a Ł15k sound system...

JjCoDeX75

Fair play! There's a man that likes to listen the Wurzels in Stereo!!!

Nice install Renton!

I used to have a few bits and pieces in mine back in the day (nothing too special). To be fair, I was quite pleased with myself when I took it all out, it was the first time the rear suspension hadnt been riding on the bump stops for years

It was the first time the car went to the Nurburgring! Now the Kickers have pride of place in the corner of my garage!

I weighed it as it came out, and it totalled 78kg all in (speakers amps, etc etc!!!!!) I was stunned!

JJ



JJ

Graceland

All I can say is Lee and Renton you pair of cunts (in the nicest way) - making me want to stick a cossie lump in my E36 Coupé now instead of supercharging it

Just look at how much room there is to play with infront of the engine


So much more than a shonky E30

Chip

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JJ,
So stunned you signed your post twice?

Renton

For what the Cossie conversion cost me 8 years ago, that money would now buy two E36 M3 Coupes! And as much as I love the YB, I know where my money would be going these days - and it isn't on superchargers or Cosworth conversions!

That said, check out where the engine sits in relation to the front struts... it's virtually mid engined! No wonder it turned in hand handled so well - even with an estimated 150-200kg of audio!

Renton

Judging by your edited post, it looks like you spotted the engine position before I pointed it out!

Graceland

Renton - Looks like a very nice conversion, But as you probably saw from my previous BMW conversion, I would do all the work myself

Engine position is really far back - I like that, and as you said, makes the car turn in and hold the road so well


Hmmmmmmmm - Serious decision time

smitsturbo

lovely car, always loved it where is it for sale? is there an add somewhere i can read about it

big_wig_074

was the battery not in the boot already then renton? it is on my e36,and was on my dads aswell!

Graceland

Battery is only in the boot on the 6 cylinder models

Mine is there already on my 328 Sport Coupé (One less job to do )

big_wig_074

that explains it then gracie,cheers,mines a 325 dads was a 323

Graceland

No problems - No room in the bay on 6 banger cars for the battery due to the length of the engine

GARETH T

i like the idea of the yb in one aswell

Graceland

Should I or Shouldn't I - that is the question

fuzzy

cossie yb's and bmw's are a match made in heaven. german build quality and a turbo'd engine .the sort of things bmw should have been producing themselves.

big_wig_074

yeah,i noticed,hence my shock about u thinking of charging yours!!!!unless its a turbo style supercharger?(cant remember the exact name)

fuzzy

if you do paul, i hope you keep hold of it a bit longer than you did with the e30 cossie. such a shame to do all that work then let someone else have the benefit

GARETH T

i liked your e30,,,, so im saying nothing

xr_craig

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Keep away from my car then you bugger

Graceland

It was shit James - I absolutely hated it

I much prefer (and honestly LIKE) the E36


Gareth you tart - yes or no


And as for you Bumeyes - STFU and bring me my calipers

fuzzy

ive never owned an e36 so i cant comment on them but what was so bad about the e30 cossie you built?

Graceland

Rose tinted glasses mate, I remember my old 325i Sport being better than it was

oh how nice hindsight is in retrospect

RSrussell

How about an MX5

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/supercarclassics/j177enw.htm