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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Well i have been watchin a guy build a "Big horse power" engine for a 200sx on another site! But since its been done hes has had quite a few probs like oil leaks springing left right and center. Now surley if your building a high power engine everything should be double checked as the slightist probs it will all going go wrong as everything is under so much stress. So do u think people should just leave it to the experts as at the end of the day they know what they are doing. Or have ago your self!?

Though i do take my hat of to peeps for having a go
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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leave it to the experts unless you hve too much money, time and no sense
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Unless you really know what you're doing leave it to experts. Would quite like to buy some cheap turbo car and have a tinkle though for a laugh. If I fook it up, who cares.

hmmm, I'm thinking daihatsu charade
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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i'd say have a go and learn something.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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Agreed in some respects but.

I do most of the stuff on my RS my self mechanically. U all know the head gasket saga of mine recently blowing up at santa pod. Well I bodged it there! I got it home, but she banged, she popped, she burnt oil and water, she miss fired and to top it all she leaked oil every where.

However, I did this to get me home.
Once home I took her all to bits again and started from scratch. I spent the time on it and checked and double checked my work.

I think its all about ability and eauipment available.


Summing up then IMPORTANT

DIY is good, If there is no one else to do it with (Whoops)
But getting some one else to do it for you is better. Plus you dont get hand ache or go blind.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Summing up then IMPORTANT

DIY is good, If there is no one else to do it with (Whoops)
But getting some one else to do it for you is better. Plus you dont get hand ache or go blind.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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lol

Yeah have ago but on a cheapish engine to start imo.

Wouldnt want to waste thousands on somthing that aint going to work.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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I think a lot of stupid people attempt to try a lot of stupid things. Lol.
Like trying to get 600bhp out of something you knocked up in the shed with sum toilet roll 'samco hoses' and sum gaffa tape.
Good luck to someone if they have a plan, rather than free saturday afternoons.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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diy,don't involve yourself
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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I do 95% of the work on the cossie, but when it comes to bottom ends
and fixing Turbo's i leave that to the experts... ....

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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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DIY = Destroy It Yourself

Rather than spending lots of time working on a car that im not particularly good at, I spend lots of time at work (which im good at ) getting overtime.

I use this to pay someone that is good at working on cars to work on my car
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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. if you want something done properly D>I>Y no-one else will take as much care of your stuff- it's just a job/ money to them that they wanna get finished, just make sure you spend the time researching it and spend the money on the right tools
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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you always appreciate an engine more when you've rebuilt it yourself.

i bought a 200SX (1.8 turbo) and it turned out that the turbo died on the way home and that one cylinder was low on compression. i've not rebuilt an engine before. i only did this as i had time on my hands and not enough cash for someone else to do it.

in this day and age its alot easier to do. when ever i had pathetic little problems i could ask for pictures and advice on the owners club

its all so fookin easy to do when you think about it. more people should do it. i can understand the worry, especially with expensive engines. they are all similar once the sump is off.

don't knock people that do it themselves, they often do just as good a result if not better. (as you tend to take more care and double check everything)
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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hav a go your self,you always appreciate things more if you
have done them yourself,you can say to people that uve done
it yourself and not forked out however much money to get
someone else to do it for you,what would make it better if
the engine turned out to be more powerful than a pro job
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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personally, i have never had probs with oil leaks but thats due to double checking gaskets and bolt/nut tightness before final "drive out".

lots of people who build cars in garages/back yards i have noticed have a "thats good enough" theory!!!!!!

and clearly, "thats good enough" is nowhere near good enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
most home builds i have seen are shocking but thats another story lol


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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 01:54 AM
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I think the biggest difference between prs and diy ers is kit the pros have grands worth of measuring kit and the knowledge to go with it, best bet if your going to do it yourself is to make friends with the local machine shop as they will have kit to do measurements for you and get as much info as poss but if your going to build a big bhp motor probably best leave it to pros as mistakes are expensive as i found out many years ago then it works out cheaper to pay somebody else
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 02:00 AM
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Nope I am cack handed,not patient

So do nothing myself
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 03:14 AM
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as long as you have a reasonable grasp of basic engineering principles, D.I.Y is not a problem, just make sure you have good tools and good information before you start, and preferably somewhere warm clean and light to work, gravel drives at 11pm in the pitch black is never going to give good results
A lot of people try to make out building engines/ diy maintainence etc is a lot harder than it is, and in reality most jobs on a car are very very simple. I do a lot of D.I.Y work for myself and freinds, and the results are usually very good, and I get to save loads of cash and learn how my car works
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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I listened to all the b***sh*t about cossie engines, then phoned cosworth themselves, got all the info i needed and built my engine myself!!!!
as long as you measure everything ,torque everything, seal everything, the only technical things on building a high spec cossie engine is piston protrusion and lairy cam timing, everything else is basic engineering!!!


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now all i need is a T4
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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i diy most the stuff i can, for instance iwouldnt pay some1 to change a clutch or a gearbox because that simple but labour intensive...

however i've never touched the bottom end, i dont mind cams, tappets head gasket etc but ive never done a bottom end and i dont think i touch anything until i had rebuilt a shitter just to amke sure how everything goes etc.

for instance if i was gunna rebuild an rst engine i would start with a shit xr2i, its a similar engine and if it goes wrong, oil leeks or whatever it wont bother me cas the car would cost shit all. if it goes right and runs fine afterwards then id consider taking apart something of a little more value
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by morcheen
diy,don't involve yourself
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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I will take bits apart and put em back together.

Its the fixing them and modifying them in between.
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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i think the problem is, alot of people think that building an engine is about buying bits and bolting it together! this is where the keen DIY'er falls down! theres alot more to building and engine that 95% of car lovers know about!

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