I have a Grp A one ready to go on mine .

 

i ment i would move not love shit,, dont know what was on my mind

i know your car is right,, i just dont understand the ideas behind it!

if the drop link was vertical, no thrust movement would be placed on the blade/torsion bar

 

SiB

ah you got what i was on about

and on martins car, the drop links act directly and in one plane to the blade

 

but the picture mike has posted is just uprated standard,it has standard crossmember,standard front uprights and cut and welded steel tca's,incredibly different to mine.

look at how the damper is held in the upright of mikes compared to mine!!

mikes has standard steering arms as well and standard steering rack knuckles,group A cars are another world in difference,

 

i know,, and i KNOW yours is a propper version,,,, but i just dont understand why!

 

Looks suspiciously like a CB compression strut to me

Well the stock adjuster and ends are

 

and look at how mikes comp struts fit compared to a group A set up!!

at least your going to change this mike,

 

Show off

Can you get another one? Or do I learn about fabrication and have a go at bodging up one of my own making?

Got to get my comp struts on some time, but not going to drive a bowl of jelly with no ARB.

Any idea what approx spring poundage would be needed to run no ARB, but hold back body roll? I know it would be poo on the road, but I can get coilover springs cheaply and easily. I'm on 400s now on the front.

Si

 

Just to clarify - Mike R's pics are of Martin Hadland's car....

Not sure how Mike is going to do his actual set up, but would guess it wil be similar?

Si

 

I have a degree in foreign languages, so as difficult as Welshies can be to understand, I knew what ya meant

And that's coming from me, a Somerset lad born and brrrrrreeeeeaaaaaaaad. Oooo arrr.

In term of appearance (not necessarily of actual performance I might add) Martin's look better (at least to my non engineering eye.)

However Tim's is a pukka spec Boreham car, so should ACTUALLY be the better beastie.

Tim, can you get any shots of how your compression struts are mounted? I can see them at the TCA end, how about where they join the bodywork / chassis?

Si

 

sorry.

i thought it was mikes car,

martin will no doubt be after my blood later.

 

Tim how much is the back one modified on your car ?

 

the wrc build manual shows brackets, the same as you would use with most cosworth compression strut kits

 

Chassis brackets...



Old Style Grp'A' Comp Strut



Not a brill shot of it assembled on the car...

 

Front and rear set ups . Ive used the modded std set up that Martins now got and the Proper gpA kit pictured on my last 2 racecars , dont just think you can pick up a bar and fit it and it will transform your car ! These parts are designed to do very specific jobs and are available in many diameters for just that reason !
The blade adjustment is there to suit different track conditions and not to suit driving style as someone mentioned before , these parts are designed to obtain the optimum out of a Race car /rally car , i'd steer well clear until you absolutely have to fit them , ive had std 2wd GpN cars that are quicker on turn in thru a good set up and cost peanuts !

 

 

tony,that rear end is old!!

 

yup , its an old pic ! Still works well enough for me and embarasses most 4wd cars i come up against

 

no proper drivers in them though tony,

 

And you have the front to take the piss out of my suspension

 

meaning?

 

drop link mate! or did you intend to have it at that angle?

 

what about it?

 

did i intend?remember where/who built this car,

 

ive edited this post before i even submitted it|!!!!

 

thanks for that!!



yellow... correct
green ... yours (when suspension at ride height it gets worse )
red... does fuck all

work it out!

 

whant a race martin?around corners? ten of the best handerling circuit?
lets see whos works,

my car is an ex sainz repsol works 1995/6 group A car built at boreham,it cost Ł200k when new,
you have a think son.

 

intresting race that

 

will race you against the clock around croft at the durham rs show if you like mate,and i will leave the 34mm restrictor in,thats 300bhp as well.
i will even put money down,


anyway,hows the new gearbox going?

 

I dont give two fucks who built the car and I hope I'm not your son , you will need twice the rate arb to do the same job on your set up so if that's right your 200k car is the one to have

 

As badly as your drop links

 

well no offence martin but i wouldnt swap with you,so croft?

 

so i was told,want to do it right then?

7 speed ffd would suit you so much.and in stock here at proper prices.

 

No offence taken so lets make it Combe..

 

Correct torque split, ratios and rhd?

 

combe?thats for puffs,we want corners not outright speed.silly boy,croft is perfect,

you have a point FFD boxes ideally suit lhd cars,but as thats the natural state of any right handed person it makes sence,martin,i think your car is decent,iam just having a bit of fun mate,you do know that so dont take it to heart,

but come and have a day at my rally school,i will make your arse twitch.

 

It looks to me like theres a rear anti roll bar fitted to the front of tims car , the rears have a 90 Degree blade to bar angle and the fronts have a 45 Degree , my front almost rubs on the lower damper to hub retaining bolt when its at droop its that close . Maybe it was done for a particular surface , Tim is this right ?

 

Blimey

 

Croft is good if you know it! I have never driven on there hence my mention of Combe ... I have prenty of time in on there.

 

Propper interesting post this, even some of it is going over my head.