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Old 16-02-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Been offered an R&D 6-speed dog-box

Any appinions?

Just been checked, looks like new, i know it works but what about strength aso aso

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Old 17-02-2007, 11:44 AM
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im guessing your running big power on the gt35


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Old 17-02-2007, 12:19 PM
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Whats its limit?
Old 17-02-2007, 12:23 PM
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350 lb/foot
Old 17-02-2007, 12:53 PM
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Oh man I must be stoned, I could of sworn the title said FFD
Old 17-02-2007, 01:12 PM
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can get you a new ms 91 FFD if needed

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Old 18-02-2007, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
can get you a new ms 91 FFD if needed

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Hi marco

Whats the pricetag on that?
Old 18-02-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
350 lb/foot
Sure about that?

Have talked to the guy in sweeden, and he has used this on an engine with 560hp and 630nm, no problems?
Old 18-02-2007, 09:13 AM
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From other peoples experience on here it seems a bit of a lottery with the R&D's. IIRC Martin ran over 500 on his for a while
Old 18-02-2007, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
350 lb/foot
are you sure ????

that's around the same as a std ford gear box ???

if so its not worth getting imo....
Old 18-02-2007, 10:03 AM
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the build quality and strength on these boxes can vary wildly,some boxes seem bullet proof then the next one seems to break if you change gear more than twice with them,there are different versions and the parts are not all interchangeable plus the box was redesigned to a different spec,then there are direct top and overdrive.
also depending on year some boxes have a different pitch on the gears.
the layshaft can seize into the transfer caseing making removal almost impossible on the earlier boxes.ok when its not broken but a large problem if you need to rebuild it,
parts are in stock though and apart from there coustomer services needing some improvement they are not badly priced for spares,
as like any dogbox its there history/rebuild that counts,and make sure who ever has alledgedly rebuilt it knows what they are doing.quaife are also very hit and miss,they tend to select two gears at once and destroy them selves in the process.

if you can find a 4.4 rear diff and step off then the original sport box takes some beating.

ive just sold an r+d overdrive box for Ł2,000 with zero warrenty.

if you can afford it and are serious about using your car then get an FFD,
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
the build quality and strength on these boxes can vary wildly,some boxes seem bullet proof then the next one seems to break if you change gear more than twice with them,there are different versions and the parts are not all interchangeable plus the box was redesigned to a different spec,then there are direct top and overdrive.
also depending on year some boxes have a different pitch on the gears.
the layshaft can seize into the transfer caseing making removal almost impossible on the earlier boxes.ok when its not broken but a large problem if you need to rebuild it,
parts are in stock though and apart from there coustomer services needing some improvement they are not badly priced for spares,
as like any dogbox its there history/rebuild that counts,and make sure who ever has alledgedly rebuilt it knows what they are doing.quaife are also very hit and miss,they tend to select two gears at once and destroy them selves in the process.

if you can find a 4.4 rear diff and step off then the original sport box takes some beating.

ive just sold an r+d overdrive box for Ł2,000 with zero warrenty.

if you can afford it and are serious about using your car then get an FFD,
Thanx for explaining m8

Am serius about the car, but havent got THAT much money for an ffd thou, even that i know it`s the best there is
Old 18-02-2007, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cossiemanden
Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
the build quality and strength on these boxes can vary wildly,some boxes seem bullet proof then the next one seems to break if you change gear more than twice with them,there are different versions and the parts are not all interchangeable plus the box was redesigned to a different spec,then there are direct top and overdrive.
also depending on year some boxes have a different pitch on the gears.
the layshaft can seize into the transfer caseing making removal almost impossible on the earlier boxes.ok when its not broken but a large problem if you need to rebuild it,
parts are in stock though and apart from there coustomer services needing some improvement they are not badly priced for spares,
as like any dogbox its there history/rebuild that counts,and make sure who ever has alledgedly rebuilt it knows what they are doing.quaife are also very hit and miss,they tend to select two gears at once and destroy them selves in the process.

if you can find a 4.4 rear diff and step off then the original sport box takes some beating.

ive just sold an r+d overdrive box for Ł2,000 with zero warrenty.

if you can afford it and are serious about using your car then get an FFD,
Thanx for explaining m8

Am serius about the car, but havent got THAT much money for an ffd thou, even that i know it`s the best there is
but, in the long term it will end up costing you more than the ffd to keep the (gearbox name in here/quaife/R&D/OSetc etc) on the road and in one piece, ford spent millions in development for the ffd and it truely works.
Old 18-02-2007, 10:18 AM
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mark is correct,long term it will cost much more and an FFD will only go up in value now,i think the list price at the time off ford was Ł37,000 plus vat.

plus an ffd gear cost the same as a quaife/r+d.
Old 18-02-2007, 10:44 AM
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Am i wrong or can i still use the std diffs?
I know about the clutch aso

Is there anyone for sale now then
Old 18-02-2007, 10:50 AM
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you can use what ever size diffs you want,

iam sure if you asked about you could find two 7 speed FFD with handbrake release for sale plus a 6 speed FFD with active centre diff for sale,try the rally car specialists.
Old 18-02-2007, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
you can use what ever size diffs you want,

iam sure if you asked about you could find two 7 speed FFD with handbrake release for sale plus a 6 speed FFD with active centre diff for sale,try the rally car specialists.
Thanx m8
Old 18-02-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
you can use what ever size diffs you want,

iam sure if you asked about you could find two 7 speed FFD with handbrake release for sale plus a 6 speed FFD with active centre diff for sale,try the rally car specialists.
funny that, i know where them gearboxes are for sale as well !!
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Originally Posted by markk
Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
you can use what ever size diffs you want,

iam sure if you asked about you could find two 7 speed FFD with handbrake release for sale plus a 6 speed FFD with active centre diff for sale,try the rally car specialists.
funny that, i know where them gearboxes are for sale as well !!
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Old 18-02-2007, 02:10 PM
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i heard TF rallying had some
Old 18-02-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
i heard TF rallying had some
Old 18-02-2007, 03:32 PM
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ill give you 2 as it is
Old 18-02-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
ill give you 2 as it is

i bet you would!!this ones just had a full rebuild.
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can only try that six speed must be cheap, its got one less gear
Old 18-02-2007, 05:09 PM
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what about the skyline box martin uses
Old 18-02-2007, 05:40 PM
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how much are these going for now,,,just out of intrest? i would love one
Old 18-02-2007, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
how much are these going for now,,,just out of intrest? i would love one
i would expect tim would let you have that for 6.5k?
Old 18-02-2007, 06:21 PM
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thats not bad for a gearbox you cant break
Old 18-02-2007, 06:37 PM
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thats just had a full rebuild.

all jokeing aside ive one 7 speed FFD that has just been rebuilt,i spent about 3k on it and its since done 70 miles,
ive another 7 speed FFD here that needs a dog ring for 2nd gear but iam going to get it fully overhauled as ive a pile of spares here for these,
plus ive the 6 speed FFD in my car ive just baught,got my eye on a world rally car so if i can do the deal this week then it will be for sale.
Old 18-02-2007, 06:39 PM
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hi lads

good old dyno to make sure the boxes are ok





with a nice FFd on there

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wheres that to marco

not many places have a gearbox dyno
Old 18-02-2007, 06:51 PM
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Hi Gaz

thats true when people want their gearbox rebuilt i get them put on there to make sure everything is ok

so i know when they go out there are working properly




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very cool
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sticky Pauls

T5 will be on there next week we got one for the Diffs aswell



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Originally Posted by marco polo
hi lads

good old dyno to make sure the boxes are ok





with a nice FFd on there

marco
marco i love it , pukka test kit, is that a sequential as well ?
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Originally Posted by markk
Originally Posted by marco polo
hi lads

good old dyno to make sure the boxes are ok





with a nice FFd on there

marco
marco i love it , pukka test kit, is that a sequential as well ?





Hi Mark

yes mate handbrake release


working on a new design sequential box inline 4wd and 2wd box @ the moment

one of 4wd is being tested on a famous 4wd rallyX car and driver with 650 bhp

marco
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it is a 6 speed converted to sequential.

that picture is barra's
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Hi Tim

yes that one on there is a converted H pattern dog to sequential


we can do it to any h-pattern dog box even the Mt 57

we are going to build sequential striaght cut Mullit box in Mt 75 casing for you rally/track cars at resonable money

alot less than the FFD

there is a market for one

marco
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