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Old 07-09-2004, 05:41 PM
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i dont care what times u got karl..ur motor is still the most awesome on this board imo
Old 07-09-2004, 05:46 PM
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btw karl ure 0-60 was 5.5
Old 07-09-2004, 05:49 PM
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Karl,
0-60 5.7secs
0-100 9.7secs

karl - in all honousty did you build your car to do that sort of thing ??

your car will/must have an excellant rolling high speed punch for mid to high speed accelleration ? am i right ?? then if so the times are excellant

most people dont want/need a car that has a high capability of accel at a high speed , so cant compare what your car must be like
Old 07-09-2004, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
rod, i think its lb/ft not ft/lb
it's not either Jim... it should be ft-lb or lb-ft
Old 07-09-2004, 07:22 PM
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i don't think there's anything impressive with the times at all!!!!

end of the day Bruce Reed's and Steve Scott's RS 500 setup's (i.e. T4 and 8 injector 500 inlet) posted far better time's in 2wd cars!!!

If Karl's top end is so good lets see some more proof of it!

how comes all these 'big power' cars such as Karls and Porkies etc don't seam to perform where as the 'old' way of doing things seam to always work!!!
Old 07-09-2004, 07:26 PM
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Why have they not performed then???????????

Were you not at National Day
Old 07-09-2004, 07:28 PM
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nms shootout

make sure u get stretch there aswell interesting 2 see his times
Old 07-09-2004, 07:30 PM
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Greeny,
how comes all these 'big power' cars such as Karls and Porkies etc don't seam to perform where as the 'old' way of doing things seam to always work!!!
what the hell are you on about lol porkie has had NO attempts at proper timed runs in his car yet . it has only been in action at national day @ 1.4 bar boost. seemed to do pretty good at that boost to me.

karls was also flying down the pit straight
Old 07-09-2004, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Why have they not performed then???????????

Were you not at National Day
whats the odds on greeny being someone posting under a fake username to cause grief!!!!
Old 07-09-2004, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ish
Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Why have they not performed then???????????

Were you not at National Day
whats the odds on greeny being someone posting under a fake username to cause grief!!!!
Just checking now Ish
Old 07-09-2004, 07:42 PM
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i'm only stating the fact that both these cars (nothing personal to either owners) still haven't out performed the 'older' setups!!!! and if/when they do i'll gladly eat my words!


as for national day, yeah i was there and i never saw either cars get anywhere near A1's WRC Escort or Bailey's MK2!! ok yeah both these cars are out and out race/rally cars but again i'm not shit stirring just stating a fact!!
Old 07-09-2004, 08:28 PM
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Greeny,

What you must remember is my car is a road car, with full interior. It runs normal road tyres (Goodyears) so is'nt even using a "performance" road tyre such as a Dunlop Formula R.

As such I simply can't put any more power down to improve the times, but I still posted the times as it's just a bit of fun!! Don't take it too seriosuly mate, life does'nt depend on cars!!

Where my car does seem very good is from 100mph upwards, but even so I'm still more than happy to have a road going 3dr cossie that does 9's to 100. It's good enough for me, but I will in the future do a few timed runs with a proper rear beam and drag radials just to obtain the figures the car's capable of.
Old 07-09-2004, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Greeny
i'm only stating the fact that both these cars (nothing personal to either owners) still haven't out performed the 'older' setups!!!! and if/when they do i'll gladly eat my words!


as for national day, yeah i was there and i never saw either cars get anywhere near A1's WRC Escort or Bailey's MK2!! ok yeah both these cars are out and out race/rally cars but again i'm not shit stirring just stating a fact!!
Chill!! tis a bit of fun mate! Besides both Bailey and the A1 WRC cars are very special, prepared specifically for the track/rally action. Going fast around circuits isn't just about BHP, corners have a lot to do with it as well and thats before drivers!! Besides both cars are probably geared for 150/160 max maybe, so are gonna accelerate to that point faster Assuming Karls is to do 200mph or whatever it is!

Fair play for having a go!

IMA = dont think you can really stir it up til you have got yours out for some times, out of the museum or where ever it is and thats if it exists.
Old 07-09-2004, 08:34 PM
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Karl,

are you getting a Zoo beam?
Old 07-09-2004, 08:47 PM
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Maybe someone (FAST FORD? PERFORMANCE FORD? REDLINE MAG?) Should do a ten of the best just 4 fords, then we will all know who has the best car If anyone with a ford turns up
Old 07-09-2004, 09:12 PM
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life does'nt depend on cars!!

I know thats y i've been a member on here for ages and can neva be bothered to post!

Where my car does seem very good is from 100mph upwards, but even so I'm still more than happy to have a road going 3dr cossie that does 9's to 100. It's good enough for me, but I will in the future do a few timed runs with a proper rear beam and drag radials just to obtain the figures the car's capable of.[/quote]

far enough i look forward to eating my words!
Old 07-09-2004, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Greeny
i'm only stating the fact that both these cars (nothing personal to either owners) still haven't out performed the 'older' setups!!!! and if/when they do i'll gladly eat my words!


as for national day, yeah i was there and i never saw either cars get anywhere near A1's WRC Escort or Bailey's MK2!! ok yeah both these cars are out and out race/rally cars but again i'm not shit stirring just stating a fact!!
errr porkie didn't do any timed runs on his old setup either so how do you know his new setup hasn't out performed it?

his new engine IS quicker than the last one so go eat them worlds lol!!
Old 07-09-2004, 09:20 PM
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A NMS shootout.Now that sounds like a GOOD day out.Sort it out Dingstan and let me know.I'll set the highest time then see if any of you can beat me.
Old 07-09-2004, 09:21 PM
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well why dont they get there cars out and time them and stop telling everyone how fast they are on low boost and show us all the high boost figures
Old 07-09-2004, 09:27 PM
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Well done for having a go Karl

And count me in on this NMS shootout you know i like to showboat.....lol
Old 07-09-2004, 09:43 PM
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150's take around 15 seconds
completely fooking unrelated but my old griffith 500 did this in 25 seconds using ONLY 5th gear
Old 07-09-2004, 09:49 PM
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0-60, well wheelspin, wheelspin. 0-100 very impressive if it isn't set up. Not many cars that can achieve that
Old 07-09-2004, 09:49 PM
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TBH....most of you car peeps are fooking tools Its like my car has to be proved quicker than yours etc etc...people really should chill..i know i take the piss out of Karl..but fair play he dont have to prove anything.

Some bikers are the same..they just want to say they can beat everyone thru the lanes..no matter if it fooking kills them I say get a girlfriend
Old 07-09-2004, 10:08 PM
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its very strange the way u go from saying one thing to the next then back again Phil.

karl,

Cool, sounds like u had a good laugh!

RW
Old 07-09-2004, 10:40 PM
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who cares bout figures..karls car is a fookin monster,ask that westfield driver or whatever it was
Old 07-09-2004, 11:00 PM
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Sounds good to me leave it for a few weeks though as mine is very nearly completed
Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Dingy

Let me know when

Full NMS shoot out
Old 08-09-2004, 08:17 AM
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So what was the topspeed recorded - was the 200mph broke as easily as reported on karls car? It has already hit the limiter in 5th a few times going by reports from karl and dingy - somewhere near 220mph or something did it not calculate out to so 200 should have been easy on the road ?

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Old 08-09-2004, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pgt
150's take around 15 seconds
completely fooking unrelated but my old griffith 500 did this in 25 seconds using ONLY 5th gear
Errrr no it didn't! How did you set off in fifth gear from a standing start for a starters yes they're torquey but not that torquey!
Old 08-09-2004, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Greeny
as for national day, yeah i was there and i never saw either cars get anywhere near A1's WRC Escort or Bailey's MK2!! ok yeah both these cars are out and out race/rally cars but again i'm not shit stirring just stating a fact!!
You weren't watching very closely then or timing laps then.

I was lapping consistently in the 1.21's... as was Scotty. Bailey car was slightly slower I heard...

That was with 1.4 bar. Scotty was hampered by the fact he kept hitting his rev limiter everywhere BUT trust me with 2 bar I would have easily got past him.

He need more gears to go faster I know that! and I don't pretend to have the awesome car control of scotty or be as entertaining to watch and my car isn't as loud ) BUT he held me up for 4 laps out on ND... ask Warren Kelly if you don't believe me, he was sitting in the car with me.

If you don't believe the lap times, ask Dave from PF. He gave me the times... although there was actually a sneaky lap timer hidden in the Sierra as well Sorry, I know they weren't allowed

Also my car just smashed a Quaife gearbox to pieces the first time it felt more than 1.7 bar... Its FAST.. trust me!

Karl has done over 200mph as well... is that fast enough for you?

and Greeny Just use your other log in
Old 08-09-2004, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian2wdsaffcos
Originally Posted by pgt
150's take around 15 seconds
completely fooking unrelated but my old griffith 500 did this in 25 seconds using ONLY 5th gear
Errrr no it didn't! How did you set off in fifth gear from a standing start for a starters yes they're torquey but not that torquey!
Having driven plenty of those id say he probably did Ian
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Where has Karl done a proven 200mph????
Old 08-09-2004, 10:22 AM
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Greeny/Ima If karl says he did it, I believe him... this whole post is Karl showing his times..
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Ian2wdsaffcos
Originally Posted by pgt
150's take around 15 seconds
completely fooking unrelated but my old griffith 500 did this in 25 seconds using ONLY 5th gear
Errrr no it didn't! How did you set off in fifth gear from a standing start for a starters yes they're torquey but not that torquey!
Having driven plenty of those id say he probably did Ian
Well if you can set off in fifth without crucifying the transmission...............I still call bullshit on the 25secs 0-150 in fifth, I'm fairly sure it'd only just manage 25secs through the gears & can check my old editions of Autocar for proof when I get home if needed
Old 08-09-2004, 10:28 AM
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God Imi bog off what i want to know - I dont want the association LOL I just want to know if they did it on the datron gear. Its cause I always hear it did - I was told it revs to 9500rpm, that it rev limited 5th on the road etc then at nat day I was told it dont rev to 9500 cause the coil loses track etc - I just want to know what the truth is as I appreciate, like really appreciate good stuff but only want to know what has actually been done.
Not the stories of I have 300hp on 5 bar but am only running 1.5 hence my car is poo etc that i hear all over the place.

Straight talk

Martin
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Steve Scott's Escort is on 4.4 diffs so maxes out at around 137mph, so no wonder it was exciting to watch around Dono - was massively undergeared, 500bhp and 1200kg ish .

The man turns into a psycho behind the wheel, not wise to race someone who has no fear of crashing their car just to be the man in front . I think they got the "No Fear" T-shirts idea from Scotty's in-car mind-set .
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Straight talk off the biggest giver of misinformation? Yeah right .
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LOL misinformation about what - I aint got any facts to talk about as my car aint on the road - If you want to know about the westie just ask LOL
Old 08-09-2004, 10:44 AM
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Porkie.....do you really think i am Greeny I dont hide behind different names..i dont need too unless banned

So he HASNT done 200mph

Hey Porkie i just did 150mph in my shed with no engine sat in the garage....
Old 08-09-2004, 03:55 PM
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phil u could only dream of having a engine like karls or lee's ..coz i know deep down you get wood for porkie's pistons
Old 08-09-2004, 03:57 PM
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in all fairness i agree with ima

if karl has done 200mph then fair play, but it should be backup when he is ready to do so

else its just a claim


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