222tomb

im after a nice all round car that i can use every day and will be fun to drive but also nice to be inside of and also will be reliable i like leather n all mod con's and the cars i can think of that i like are

focus rs
new focus st
seat leon cupra r
mk4 golf r 32
carnt think of anything elce?

but im fed up with fwd cars realy i know the r32 is 4wd but the golf is just about in reach of my budget

any one know good n bad things about the above cars n why thay would chose them

oh n im 21 so no grandad cars

stuartrst

focus rs

bmw 330 ci

222tomb

i only like one bmw and ile never get one m3 csl un less sum ones selling one for 15 k

fordsportjay

iTrader: (6)

what about an evo 8/9?

222tomb

yeah would like a evo at 21 but i dont think the insurence would like me to have one

Dan

Focus RS mate, by far has the most character and a bloody good all round car

COMEDY DAN

BMW M5.
2001 model on
Leather, aircon, double glazing on some models, tv/satnav comms pack, electric blinds on some models, zenons on some models, 400bhp and german build quality.

And all from 10k up.

12k up gets you a good one.

Plus you can drive to a track day, do 25 laps and drive home without oil leaks and a trailor

222tomb

yeah only thing about the focus rs is that ive herd that thay get nicked quite often n i wouldent wonna park it anywere

dont like m5 as most rude boys n pimps ave them and seeing as i went skool with sum of em i dont wonna get branded the same

Escy

Alfa 156 GTA

danneth

focus RS all the way

222tomb

any pics of that alfa m8t

woodz77

R32!!!! love to have . god , your insurance is going to be loads whatever car you get after reading your list .wish i had your money at 21 lol

hodgie

Would have to say the golf.. one thing you can't slate the german's for is their engineering!!

Anonymous

volvo T5

222tomb

volvo i r32 insurance i was quite suprised at the quote i got and i can aford it and the only way ive got this kind of money is my aurnty passed away n left me some money

Anonymous

ever driven a RICA chipped volvo t5 ? try it you will be suprised...

222tomb

yeah but its a volvo n who at 21 would want a volvo

roybacer

Tbh mate ur shortlist is pretty damn good

If i had that budget i'd personally go for a 330ci, but from your list it would have to be a focus RS

Komm88

RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS RS!!!!

222tomb

yeah my m8ts ave said the rs as well but dont seem to have much luk with them but then again it a lot newer than my last frst

i also wonna do the odd track day too and would be happy with about 300bhp so what dus that invole to get the rs to that spec?

222tomb

how duz the focus rs compeair to the cupra r

danneth

it wipes the floor with it

222tomb

why is that then ther about the same power n a chiped cupra r will see about 280 bhp for just a remap as i cant find a cheep way like that with the rs to get that power

Daveesaunders

Focus ST or Leon Cupra R

Zek

ST

Paul J

Focus out of the above.

Also Clio V6, good way to die at 21 lol or a Integra DC5.

Oranoco

Focus RS. Standard it can't quite cut the mustard in the power stakes but that's easily sortable and the chassis can take a nice gob more grunt without getting upset.

222tomb

i thought about a v6 clio but a 2 seater ent much use to me + i herd sumwere if the water pump gose's its ova a grand to fix

n i dont like hondas

so just realy stuck on what to get n would like sum advice of anyone how have had any of the above cars n can shed any light as what thay r like day to day and to have fun in

Escy

http://www.channel4.com/4car/di/alfa+romeo/156/841/1

I would much rather that to something like a 330 BMW. They sound lovely at full chat and the interior is sublime.

rssteve

i've never heard of one getting "nicked" the security is quite good as standard, who told you they get nicked quite often? The back of the car does not really stand out in a parking spot.

rssteve

[quote="222tomb"]i thought about a v6 clio but a 2 seater ent much use to me + i herd sumwere if the water pump gose's its ova a grand to fix
quote]

best not get any performance car as most could have some problem that will cost you a 1k to fix if not more.

James

you've got the focus st on your list haven't you?

personally i'd be thinking either 330d, scooby wrx [model after bug-eye], or a vw golf tdi 150.

i know i' ve mentioned diesels but they're very very good cars.

audi quattro of some description? audi tt? s3? s4?

222tomb

escy not sure about that alfa looks like an oldmans car too me

rssteve thire have bin a few post on here about focus rs getting stolen

james i dont want a diesel car i like the audi s3 but most have starship milage wonna get a car with less than 30k on with fsh and as for a tt well thats a girls car

i do like the 03 to 05 plate scoobys but think that if i was to get one in a year or two's time thay would of devalued too much

222tomb

anyone had one of the above cars so thay can shed any info plz

G950KDT

iTrader: (2)

Focus RS or ST mate, but for me the RS looks better, just like the shape of the car a fair bit better than the ST