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Old 31-12-2006, 04:43 PM
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It aint no mondao tho its a classic car with high value! and some guys pride and joy! i would tell them to take a fuck to them self about it going to an "approved repairer" and take it where i wanted and sue them for the repairs! thats why i cant stand 99% of garages out there.
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Originally Posted by wolfylad
Got it in writing, also got it saying they will get it fixed using new genuine ford panels and parts. ( but not sure if they are available).
I just dont know what to do now, wheather to accept write off, or let them fix it, or get it back with a payment from the garage?
Well start here ......Tell the garage to get you

A new FORD wing

A new ford inner wing

A new ford front bumper

A new ford grill

A new ford bonnett

Then tell them you want £8000 ,dont go through with insurance!! If they say no to this id take them to court
Old 31-12-2006, 04:44 PM
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I would get them to pay out the agreed valuation on it and look for another 1.

It will never be as it was before and you will deffo be able to tell and it will just piss you of and you'll never be as happy with the car again.

I wouldnt accept it back point back
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Im sure it will all work out for the best mate.

Most of these old 3 doors have had new panels at some stages in their lives.

If the job is done properly then I dont think you are going to lose too much in value.

Cant begin to imagine though how annoyed and upset you are but just remember at the end of the day it is just a car and it can and will get sorted.
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Mate if i prang a customers vehicle,it goes to an approved repairer through my works insurance company,and we have a 10k excess, if it was me,depends how much the car stands you,and how mechanicaly minded you are,then get the garage to give you a cash settlement plus the damaged car back

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DO NOT ACCEPT the repair... tell them you are NOT going to accept the car back, they need to buy you another car as that is a write off now surely

have they reported the accident to the police? as that was more than a fuking car park shunt!!

im not an expert at all, but surely thats more than just panel damage.
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Taking them to court is all fine,but as soon as the judge hears that they offered to repair the vehicle he will laugh you out of court,and you will be left with a solicitors bill

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Originally Posted by STUCOS
Taking them to court is all fine,but as soon as the judge hears that they offered to repair the vehicle he will laugh you out of court,and you will be left with a solicitors bill

cheeRS Stu
Ok dont do that then
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It only a 50k car with all its origanal panals can either do two things with it
Get it repaired and will never be worth what it was and you will never be 100% happy with it
Or
get the garaged to buy it off you for what its worth before the snotty nosed kid that could probably not see over the steering wheel decided to do wheelies in it.

I would do the latter if it was mine i know it will be a hard decision tho
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Got one to work with a lot of fooking about:



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Just thinking aloud, what happened to the van or whatever it was that was hit, did the garage pay him off or has that got to be repaired also??
Could be expensive for the garage??????????

cheers steve
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thats shit that, hardly a little tap
id ask to speak to the little prick that crashed it
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Originally Posted by 4x4 ste
Just thinking aloud, what happened to the van or whatever it was that was hit, did the garage pay him off or has that got to be repaired also??
Could be expensive for the garage??????????

cheers Steve
must have fucked the tail lift for sure
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I haven't read through ALL the post but get the jist that MOST people are going in to one in one way or another! now YES the car has been serverly damaged(and I WOULDN'T accept it back by the way) BUT few things I'd like to say 1: they HAVE said they will sort it(so I'd tell them to settle it through THEIR insurance) 2:I DONT think anyone went out deliberatly to crash the car 3: the garage from this episode WILL MAYBE have learnt from it!

I would be PISSED also but the saying goes accident do happen


ps ALL the above IS based on that the youngster who was driving is cover on the policy for driving that type of vehicle!
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if that was my 3dr i'd be baying for blood

don't let them repair it take it to an insurance approved bodyshop and get the garage to foot the bill

really gutted for ya mate
Old 31-12-2006, 05:19 PM
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Cant believe it
If it was my car and was all original panels i would not want it back as you dont see many with them,it would just piss me off.
I would deffinatly want another car and i am a panel beater and could easily repair it.
Hope you get it sorted mate
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Looks really bad that, its as if its been opened by a giant tin opener!! id go ballistic if this was mine and somebody would be hurt!!

Really really Sorry to hear about this. I stand and wait with mine when tyres are put on,wheels balanced,etc etc anything at all. I recently stood over a guy who balanced my wheels just to make sure he didnt scratch them, i think he was getting quite pissed off but i didnt care one bit. He asked me if i was leaving the car with them to which i replied "in your dreams mate" but in a nice way though as i wanted the best job doing and didnt want to come across as arrogant if you understand me!!! I do everything i can do myself i will only ever take my car to a place for something that i can not do myself.

Hope that you get it sorted out whatever route you go down.
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if it was as mint as you say it was then i would be out looking for a new car of the same level ..
they broke it .. they own it springs to mind.

its only yourself that can decide on where you want to go but it looks quite bad. would you be happy knowing it has had a damage repair carried out.
as stated above do not claim on your insurance its thier fault and good on em to atually admidt liability.
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First off was it a ford garage?

Secondly i'm sorry to hear/see about your car so please don't missunderstand what i am about to say.

Ok, in fairness all you people saying do to the police, trading standards blah blah blah, bollocks. They won't give a fuck as i suspect it was probably on the garage forcourt when it happened? and the garage has offered to repair it using genuine parts? what else can the garage do? what can the police make the garage do? magic a brand-new 3door from no-where?

Also people saying the mechanic was out joy riding blah blah blah, in my opinion he couldn't have been going that fast as theres not that much damage really, if he was going say 30mph and clipped the tail-lift i reckon it would have sliced right up the wing and probably the door, which makes ME think it was probably a straight forward car-park shunt as low speeds.

What was he doing washing it? Well, being a highly polished white car i suspect he probably got finger prints over it and thought he'd wash them off.

If i was you i'd accept the new courtesy car get them to repair it at a known bodyshop, i.e. not the bosses brother-in-law who dabbles in his back garden, get them to repair it, get them to write something to say it's been repaired to the best quality possible and should any rust develop on the repair in the next 5 years or so they'll repair it free of charge. Try and strike some sort of free servicing deal for the car for as long as you have it. and leave it like that.

Going down there demanding the bloke get sacked and compensation/£8k + repairs etc etc will get you no-where, they'll just think your a bit of a knob and try and not help you, if you go in nice and can accept it's an accident and can accept they're doing there best they're more likely to bend over-backwards, free-servicing, beer etc

I know it's been said above but accidents do happen, usually alot more often than the customer knows!
Old 31-12-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by James
First off was it a ford garage?

Secondly i'm sorry to hear/see about your car so please don't missunderstand what i am about to say.

Ok, in fairness all you people saying do to the police, trading standards blah blah blah, bollocks. They won't give a fuck as i suspect it was probably on the garage forcourt when it happened? and the garage has offered to repair it using genuine parts? what else can the garage do? what can the police make the garage do? magic a brand-new 3door from no-where?

Also people saying the mechanic was out joy riding blah blah blah, in my opinion he couldn't have been going that fast as theres not that much damage really, if he was going say 30mph and clipped the tail-lift i reckon it would have sliced right up the wing and probably the door, which makes ME think it was probably a straight forward car-park shunt as low speeds.

What was he doing washing it? Well, being a highly polished white car i suspect he probably got finger prints over it and thought he'd wash them off.

If i was you i'd accept the new courtesy car get them to repair it at a known bodyshop, i.e. not the bosses brother-in-law who dabbles in his back garden, get them to repair it, get them to write something to say it's been repaired to the best quality possible and should any rust develop on the repair in the next 5 years or so they'll repair it free of charge. Try and strike some sort of free servicing deal for the car for as long as you have it. and leave it like that.

Going down there demanding the bloke get sacked and compensation/£8k + repairs etc etc will get you no-where, they'll just think your a bit of a knob and try and not help you, if you go in nice and can accept it's an accident and can accept they're doing there best they're more likely to bend over-backwards, free-servicing, beer etc

I know it's been said above but accidents do happen, usually alot more often than the customer knows!
The voice of logic and reason

I think wolfy should also contact the 3dr registrar of the RSOC and see what, if any value the car will lose having been repaired and ask to be compensated the difference by the garage.
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Old 31-12-2006, 06:03 PM
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fucking tossers, gutted for you mate. i would be fuming hope it gets sorted out asap


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you break it you buy it!

sorry to hear about it, atleast the garage isnt as far as we know owned by a load of dodgy people, and they have offered to pay for it!
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gutted for you mate....

but been on the otherside of these things and they do happen unfortunately....
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Originally Posted by James
First off was it a ford garage?

Secondly i'm sorry to hear/see about your car so please don't missunderstand what i am about to say.

Ok, in fairness all you people saying do to the police, trading standards blah blah blah, bollocks. They won't give a fuck as i suspect it was probably on the garage forcourt when it happened? and the garage has offered to repair it using genuine parts? what else can the garage do? what can the police make the garage do? magic a brand-new 3door from no-where?

Also people saying the mechanic was out joy riding blah blah blah, in my opinion he couldn't have been going that fast as theres not that much damage really, if he was going say 30mph and clipped the tail-lift i reckon it would have sliced right up the wing and probably the door, which makes ME think it was probably a straight forward car-park shunt as low speeds.

What was he doing washing it? Well, being a highly polished white car i suspect he probably got finger prints over it and thought he'd wash them off.

If i was you i'd accept the new courtesy car get them to repair it at a known bodyshop, i.e. not the bosses brother-in-law who dabbles in his back garden, get them to repair it, get them to write something to say it's been repaired to the best quality possible and should any rust develop on the repair in the next 5 years or so they'll repair it free of charge. Try and strike some sort of free servicing deal for the car for as long as you have it. and leave it like that.

Going down there demanding the bloke get sacked and compensation/£8k + repairs etc etc will get you no-where, they'll just think your a bit of a knob and try and not help you, if you go in nice and can accept it's an accident and can accept they're doing there best they're more likely to bend over-backwards, free-servicing, beer etc

I know it's been said above but accidents do happen, usually alot more often than the customer knows!
As he said...

Only thing I would say in addition is to ask for the details of wherever will be repairing it so that you can inspect the place 1st, i.e. dodgy back-street garage or pukka place. I would also state in writing that you wish all panels to be replaced as per the other side in ways of sealer, spot-welding, etc... You can also ask for all the old parts to be retained for inspection once the job is done. This makes sure that they do not repair something with filler instead of replacing it.

I work in a bodyshop also and we had a Lancia Delta Ingetrale HF come in with front-end damage. We even got the local Lancia specialist to come down and inspect the work before we handed it back to the owner as you could see from the condition of the car how good it was. Also, no filler was used on repaired parts, only lead-loading. Is more expensive, but worth it if done properly.
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thats bad shit mate of course id be pissed but as said as long as its repaired properly it wont lose any value its not got a bent chassis so once but straight you wont even notice.theres not realy alot else you can do just get it in writing that they will send it to a proper place and that you will find the parts at there cost as i can see that car at a workshop for some time as ford dont have any wings any more.you source bits then they repair car it will be a lot quicker. good luck
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
Every body blame the mechanic,if it was my 3dr i would be pissed off,but just maybe it was an inicent accident,after all if they had just fitted a wheel bearing i would hope they were going to road test it,if it had been an l reg mondy half you guys wouldnt say boo about it,been in the motor trade 20 yrs and have seen it all before,but the garage does have insurance to cover this,which the insurence company will want the car to go to there approved repairer


cheeRS Stu

come on mate do us a favour.inicent accident? dont see it myself
for a start look at the car it obviously doesnt need a clean.and even if it did like fuck would i let someone other than me clean my car and risk scratches(if i scratch it its my own stupid fault)i,d be pissed to find a mark that werent there before.
and if they had to "road test it"which most garages dont do due to time and laziness then why would you give it to the young buttboy tea maker to take out?a high power rwd classic car worth money!not a sensible idea now is it?
as for the mondeo comment i'd be pissed if someones 1.1 fiesat got damaged at a garage as well tbh.



as for the repair,well it wont have the date stamped wing and bonnet etc now so has dropped value.and as for them repairing it,well it'll be one of their "mates"that do it cheap for them therefore crap.even ford themselves are shit (bonuses on amount of time so car count is high)i know cos a mate works there





all i can say is i feel for him and i'd be out for blood.im lucky my mate does mine and i trust him as he had a 3dr and knows what they mean to me.
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Really gutted for you mate. i,d be fucked right off it that happened to my pride and joy. as garage has offered to repair the car and admitted liabilty i would get an agreed valuation for the car and push to get them to buy it off you. does not matter a diddly if the repair is cock on or not, it,ll never be the same car, and you will have to live with it for as long as you own it mate. Again gutted for you.
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First, I think I'm going to be sick... I'd faint if that was my car...

I can't believe that would be write off? The chassis doesn't look to be damaged? maybe that's why insurance is so expensive over there!? quick to write of a car with that kind of damage. Honestly while I would be super pissed, I'd take it to best Body shop available (like Central Blasting cause they look like the work with RS cars). get them to fit a new wing, bonnet, grill, and headlight (and whatever else needs repair). Have the wankers who crashed the car foot the whole bill (towing to bodyshop) and like someone else said, get an RS specialst from the RSOC group to take a look at it after it's done to make sure it's as good as new.

I wouldn't let any of their affiliates repair the car, I'd have to the place of my choice.
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Originally Posted by James
First off was it a ford garage?

Secondly i'm sorry to hear/see about your car so please don't missunderstand what i am about to say.

Ok, in fairness all you people saying do to the police, trading standards blah blah blah, bollocks. They won't give a fuck as i suspect it was probably on the garage forcourt when it happened? and the garage has offered to repair it using genuine parts? what else can the garage do? what can the police make the garage do? magic a brand-new 3door from no-where?

Also people saying the mechanic was out joy riding blah blah blah, in my opinion he couldn't have been going that fast as theres not that much damage really, if he was going say 30mph and clipped the tail-lift i reckon it would have sliced right up the wing and probably the door, which makes ME think it was probably a straight forward car-park shunt as low speeds.

What was he doing washing it? Well, being a highly polished white car i suspect he probably got finger prints over it and thought he'd wash them off.

If i was you i'd accept the new courtesy car get them to repair it at a known bodyshop, i.e. not the bosses brother-in-law who dabbles in his back garden, get them to repair it, get them to write something to say it's been repaired to the best quality possible and should any rust develop on the repair in the next 5 years or so they'll repair it free of charge. Try and strike some sort of free servicing deal for the car for as long as you have it. and leave it like that.

Going down there demanding the bloke get sacked and compensation/£8k + repairs etc etc will get you no-where, they'll just think your a bit of a knob and try and not help you, if you go in nice and can accept it's an accident and can accept they're doing there best they're more likely to bend over-backwards, free-servicing, beer etc

I know it's been said above but accidents do happen, usually alot more often than the customer knows!
well put mate tbh it probs was just an accident and nobody was fooking about in your car. Yeah id be pissed off but like said above what else can the garage do apart from pay for all the repairs etc.
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that looks really nasty
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fix it and ill buy it off you for £3k ?
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fair play stucos for saying something else mate.

i work in the trade and last week my mate moved a customers car on the the wash bay as it was in the way and it was an auto volvo and he smashed it straight into the wall at like 5mph and the damage was unreal
the customer was informed straight away and with in two days we repaired it to to customers satisfation (spelling) and life went on, just left my mate alittle gutted as he has never crashed before

i know exactly how if feels as i have had it happen to me when i had my cossie and they moved it out side of the mot bay and a van just cracked my rear bumper and broke the bracket but all was fixed and life went on.

working with vans and cars in the bodyshop all day i have seen alsorts of silly accidents and damage that most wouldnt believe so until you hear the full version of events from the nipper that done the damage stop fucking going on like little kids

of course i hope this gets sorted for you 100% mate.
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Totally gutted for you mate.

I would suggest that you dont take it to an "Insurance approved body shop" In my opinion that would be the worst possible place to take it as they will be limited on what they can charge. It is not in their interest to take longer than necessary to finish the job to a satisfactory level. Take it to a proper classic car restorer. They will be able to finish it off without anyone even knowing its been damaged. You find the right place and they will put all the spot-welds in original places, recreate ford stamps and date stamps on panels. The damage to the inner wing can either be beaten out or a new replacement section made from scratch including all swaging. It wont be cheap but then you're not paying. You might wanna look in some of the old-skool forums and see who they suggest for a "proper" repair.
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Originally Posted by SiB




Got one to work with a lot of fooking about:



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I keep looking @ the pics and it looks like he's hit the back of a lorry of some thing as its to hi for a luton step just the way its cut it open ect looks like he's sweved to miss it and just cought it

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Old 01-01-2007, 01:05 AM
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Fooking christ id be fuming if my car come back anything like that!! Take them to the cleaners mate
Old 01-01-2007, 01:14 AM
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know how you feel....my S2 went in for a starter motor change
(just spent £1.5k on shell restore) got a call saying my car was on fire.
They had split the fuel line by the filter and set fire to it somehow, tried to blame me even though they had the car 3 days.
Lost that car in the end...sold as spares, front end and engine loom knackerd.

took my S1 in 3 months back, picked it up and it drove like a shed, couldnt prove shit...£240 to get it running right again.

Do it all myself now....bar the MOT on wednesday, i'll be sleeping in the car whilst they MOT it!!!!

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Old 01-01-2007, 06:54 AM
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sorry to see yea car looking like that
read all the posts and there is a lot off mixed fealing ,the car is in a bad way , but all is not lost ,even tho it is yea pride and joy , u can have an enginer com out and look and tell u how bad the car is and if ther wrote it off how much u would get back and if it would be cat a,b,c,d at the cost off the garage ,ie about £ 70 pounds for his time but note this isnt thow yea insures

here is a number off a bloke call peter that i have used in very simaler cases to yours but on taxis ,but please note that just cos he ant around the corner from yea self , he ant wearth ringing he is a speicalist in none fault damages to cars and so on he no,s yea write and wrongs ,so defo wearth ringing him to have a chat , just ring him and say graham who owns guis taxis has gave u the number and take it from ther 07971202885 he has a hand line number but u only get answer machine asking to leave yea details and he rings u back ,

hope that this helps u loads
Old 01-01-2007, 09:37 AM
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im sorry but if that was mine i would not be wanting that repaird especially as you say original 50k car never been damaged


even if it was repaired at fords with original panels which by the way would be fookin thousands due to inner wing, that has finished the car off in an insurance point of view


get several independant quotes then go see a solicitor


go for top wack in way of reimbursement as mentioned above £8000 sounds right

then that way you can keep the car too

if you really wanted to it could be cheaply repaired for a grand to a good enough standard and track the bitch or sell it on for 4500 notes


its a horrible thing but do what most people do, make the best of a bad thing, make it profit you for your troubles

as soon as the garage see the quotes they will spit buckets, if you leave it to them it will be a cheap repair

go see a solicitor, even think about claiming for a hire care


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