James

yeah now you mention it i think his spotlight were smaller and recessed a bit.

Cossie Helen

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Paulo P

You're thinking of the 22b. The P1 was created only for the UK market with a limited run of 1000 cars.

RWD_cossie_wil

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p1- scooby= shit

Paulo P

Here we go again

KSA-Cossie

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I take it you kicked his jap ass helen ?

Cossie Helen

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I tried I blame my lack of confidence on launches

Stu.H

What he said

saff_cossie

Why is that I wonder?

I do a lot of events with the WRX club here as the following is quite large due to the STI tuning arm based in Melbourne. A lot of the guys and girls all wear the clothing etc. Interesting it is the same in the UK. Possibly a Impreza trait?

m_nettleship

How did u go on helen with the p1,,

330mm brakes were an upgrade.

aduz

rapidcossie

Two of my mates have tuned P1's both were mapped by Andy Forrest and both have done 20k miles getting the shit kicked out of them..


they always seem to punch above their weight and will usually beat evos etc with same power level.








both run AP brakes as the standard ones are crap.

really need a Apexi Fc and full blitz to make them fly

awesome cars..

EIL132

Or the fact they produce up to date machinery that the new kids can aspire to, unlike Ford, who rely on heritage from days gone by to keep an appeal rather than produce anything worth buying

NUTS RuS

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If it wasnt for Prodrive they would all still be being driven by old farmers and chased round fields by sheep.

EIL132

And if it wasn't for Cosworth, Ford would be.......where it is today

NUTS RuS

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Iv'e not got a problem with that James, I've never owned a Cosworth

JonnyBravo

My mate has a nice P1, when it was standard it was only as quick as my nova xe, although it was faster than another mates Evo7

PS were not talking cornering here

Power delivery though is SO smooth, now its tuned its apperently very fast, certainly sounds it when he leaves the village.

Still sounds like a fucking Subaru though

NUTS RuS

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Whats this my mate Lyndon has ?

Think he calls it an S8 or something



Thats not bad

I think he paid around Ł175k for it and its always got a broken gearbox. Well not the box itself just the paddles on the steering wheel. He borrowed some jubilee clips off me a while back to fix it

aduz

just out of interest why do these have so many engine problems?

is there a design fault or something im sure i read that andy forrest reckoned it had something to do with the induction or someit on the p1's

xr2i-carl

still hold decent money too

Rippers

I like the Classic RA's however I am going by my mates ex-hillsprint car on 4.4ratio.. ugly as sin car but a lot of fun to drive

dsgtrain

How about this 415bhp Cosworth tuned Impreza:
http://www.type-25.com/

Dave

m_nettleship

madness, I think the p1 is a nice moter and a different class to all the other shit impreza.

MattyRST

My mate in stafford has a P1 and hes a buffty with it

danneth

LMAO i have never ever ever read so much crap on a car forum post

RickyLee53

I owned a Corsa XE stripped out with a few engine mods. (around 170bhp)

I also had an Evo 6 at the same time. There was a MASSIVE difference in them. Although the p/w ratio is similar, the way they get the power down, handle brake accelerate its in a different league.

Another mate has a Nova Xe stripped out and with 150shot of nitrous. I can still beat it at any speed.

Are P1s really that slow? And Whats up with the Evo 7?

john

My m8 had one had full system and a remap and pulled so well. Just pulled all the way round till off the clock. From a rolling start against my old 300 bhp saph it would be even's till he hit 4th and the thing just pulled and left me

I like them a lot and people who say scoobies are shit really have not got a clue.

S1sam

My dad has a standard impreza turbo with the prodrive pack and has had no probs..

they get the bad rep from people either not running the import ones on the right fuel, or bad mapping...

I think if they arent messed about with they are 100% reliable, they are japanese after all

st3v3

The subaru is a very reliable car,things only start to go pop when you have a diy'er who doesn't what he's doing,bad fuel/wrong RON or bad mapping (which is doubtful now-a-days).

Fagin

Literally speaking the P1 is not a Subaru production car.... it IS an import STi that has been pre-modded by Prodrive prior to registration. By facto of osmosis, it then becomes a UK car.

Fagin

A specific engine revision had problems with the big ends (on the classic). The P1 seems to have it's own problems and this has been associated to either the standard ECU map not being ideal for the UK fuel, together with other internal engine worries.

As has been said above..... the most likely cause for failure of the classic model engine has been bad modifications etc.

Thank fully the Newage engines seem fairly bullet proof.

st3v3

i would love the p1 but am scared of the engine going pop,more inclined to go for the Sti blobeye though.

Escy

I raced one in my old S13, I was in the region of 280-300bhp at the time and I was neck and neck with it in a striaght line. What shocked me, was I could also match him around corners (only had lowering springs on the S13), he obviously wasn't a decent driver, that said i've never been left by any Scooby on corners.

The only time I lost out to the P1 was coming off a roundabout, he nailed it and fucked off, I nailed it and nearly lost the fucker. No grip.

Good cars though, I like.

m_nettleship

I have heard the same, I think u have to run additive, or v-power all the time, not many are going to do that all its life. wouldent have though anyway

fordsportjay

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a guy round the corner who owns a huge import place told me once he would never have a p1 in his place for sale and would never even take one in p/x.
something to do with higher compression ratios or something if i remember right-but they are apparently the weakest engine of them all.

they look nice though.

m_nettleship

erm not to sure about that.

JonnyBravo

Believe what you may mate, rolling start 2nd gear both cars I could stick with them, the evo would have the edge on me at 120mph.

Only played with the Scoob a few times but 2nd gear until around a ton was the same. I heard the P1 and the Evo had a race one night and the P1 was faster overall.

That was off gas btw, as on gas I'd run out of revs long before they caught me.

My engine was a 40k xe taken from a Calibra that had been stood 7 years

As for the nova on 150hp nitrous not keeping with a Evo 6, either the evo has been tweeked or the nova is a sack of shit.

My 1/4 mile was 13.051 @ 112mph

Lapped the ring in under 9 mins on first visit.

Might need to draw your attention to a particular Corsa that runs 11's on gas, it maybe tuned but power to weight clearly is what its all about.

I'm not a twat and I'm quite aware that a Evo is a quick point to point car, until tuned though there not as quick as everyone seems to believe, they launch hard as do scoobs but once rolling there not that fast.

RickyLee53

Maybe you had your gas on and didn't notice?

As an Evo standard should do 13 deads. At a slightly slower terminal.

The Nova is owned by the same kid as the old CossVaux van. It's direct port, has a progressor bottle warmer etc. Over 2k's worth off kit IIRC. He's not going to put it on a smokey old XE as the kids got about 10 in his garage. Although my I add traction was the biggest problem on this night.

I have seen the corsa that runs an 11.8, its a XE on TBs and 150+ shot of nitrous?

Been a tw@ or not is debatable. Please may i make you aware I drove both cars back to back on a daily basis. My Evo is standard, my XE was tuned. Theres a BIG difference.
The XE was great fun, (if you like to wheelspin) and it was a laugh to drive. But please get out of your car and drive an Evo.
I have raced 2 MR340 Evo 8's in my car and beat them both. Although its very close and they would no doubt be quicker 120+.

Not many people launch there Evo's and the 1s who do either have way too much money a stupidly fast car with a very good clutch, or just simply no mechanical sympathy.

Not sure where you live but by all means fill your gas up and I can show you the difference?

rapidcossie

try running a cossie on 92 RON fuel and see how far you get...

thats the same prob as most P1's have...

the base map is VERY close to the edge as standard..

Re map them and you wont have any troubles...

always makes me laugh when people say P1's are unreliable...

James

Has anyone heard of the newer type scoobys needing engine rebuilds then?

Cos a scooby dealer near me reckons they do a rebuild about once a month, under warrenty i believe, so not 3 years old yet. Apparently they drink oil and people buy them don't open the bonnets between services.

Now, do they use oil like that or is that a unusual failure rate?