pros and cons of the focus rs
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Originally Posted by tonyk
The Focus RS is quicker round the Top Gear track than the ST by nearly 3 seconds. Stig tests the Ford Focus RS on the track against its main competition, the Subaru Impreza and the Honda Civic Type-R. The Impreza completes the track in 1:39 and the Civic finishes in 1:38.06. Surprisingly the Focus RS beats the competition out in a time of 1:33.8.
I test drove the RS and ST back to back and bought the RS which was a used car when I could easily have bought the new ST.
Info from Top Gear site and wikipedia.
I test drove the RS and ST back to back and bought the RS which was a used car when I could easily have bought the new ST.
Info from Top Gear site and wikipedia.
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Same boat as you, could have gone for a brand new ST, went for a used RS.
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Really nice car & handling was incredible.
Had a test drive in a ST, again was a nice car, but seemed too big
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Also thought the grills looked cheap & tacky, big thick chunky grey plastic.
Too many ST`s around too....
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I bought a new orange ST only a couple of months ago and been on the phone today to JCT28 enqiuring about an RS. Don't get me wrong the ST is a great car but a bit 'too nice' to drive, especially having owned an Esco Cossie before this.
Trying to persuade the wife right now that an RS is the way forward. Hopefully in the long run too as I would imagine the value will hold better. Plus if I do p/ex I get a bit cash for xmas too. Everyone's a winner.
Opions please!!! (just to help convince the wife)
Trying to persuade the wife right now that an RS is the way forward. Hopefully in the long run too as I would imagine the value will hold better. Plus if I do p/ex I get a bit cash for xmas too. Everyone's a winner.
Opions please!!! (just to help convince the wife)
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I bought my FRS 2months ago. I also test drove the ST, it was nice, felt smooth and quick but it didn't feel like the beast the RS is.
I use it everyday and have had no problems, its heavy on petrol when you boot it but good when you dont. The ride is hard and you get alot of road noise, but it handles like nothing i've ever drove or been in before.
ST -boys car
RS - Mans car
Just tonight i had a play with an ST, my RS is standard and i was still 2 car lengths infront off the mark.
I use it everyday and have had no problems, its heavy on petrol when you boot it but good when you dont. The ride is hard and you get alot of road noise, but it handles like nothing i've ever drove or been in before.
ST -boys car
RS - Mans car
Just tonight i had a play with an ST, my RS is standard and i was still 2 car lengths infront off the mark.
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I must say I love my RS, use it as my everyday car and recommend it to anyone but I've not driven the ST so I can't comment on how good or bad it is. The other point is that I see quite a few ST's over a week but go for weeks without seeing another RS on the road - so if you want a bit of exclusivity...
Anyway, as for the time round the Ring, I can't remember where I originally got this from but:
"For all who believed that the new ST is 14 seconds faster on the Nurburgring...they where talking about the ST170!
The Ford guys never said "faster than the RS", they wrote "faster than its precursor"; it seems a few journalist misinterpreted that phrase"
Here are the official times:
Focus ST 170 9:05
Focus ST 220 8:51
Focus RS 8:36"
Anyway, as for the time round the Ring, I can't remember where I originally got this from but:
"For all who believed that the new ST is 14 seconds faster on the Nurburgring...they where talking about the ST170!
The Ford guys never said "faster than the RS", they wrote "faster than its precursor"; it seems a few journalist misinterpreted that phrase"
Here are the official times:
Focus ST 170 9:05
Focus ST 220 8:51
Focus RS 8:36"
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Interesting that on all of the short track tests done by 5th gear, Top Gear and the mags that the RS wins, must be the long straights where the ST gains an advantage
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sorry to say this guys, after 10 years of driving my s2 .. jumped into my mates mint very low mileige £14000 focus rs and .. just average
i also think thay should of put recaros in it
and as others have said it doesent realy look much at all, i wud deff go for the escort cozz
better lookin and a cozzy
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Originally Posted by morto
sorry to say this guys, after 10 years of driving my s2 .. jumped into my mates mint very low mileige £14000 focus rs and .. just average
i also think thay should of put recaros in it
and as others have said it doesent realy look much at all, i wud deff go for the escort cozz
better lookin and a cozzy
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I would never take the gift of any RST over the Focus RS even if its a 400bhp RST. I am also glad that the Focus RS is not as lairy as an Escort Cosworth as in these thieving times you cant be to safe and dont want to stand out that much.
A thing the pic of the Focus RS never show is how wide it is compared to the normal Focus.
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tonyk, i wasent comparing it to a s2 mate
i was stating that it felt just average and in the looks department the escort cozz wins hands down
best looking car ford ever made, the focus just looks like any other focus unlike the escort cozz
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I had a S1 RST years ago, and my Pug 205 GTI 1.9 pissed all over it in every respect, dunno how you can say a S2 RST feels better than a FRS??
And looks wise, I think the FRS makes an Escos look prehistoric.
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And looks wise, I think the FRS makes an Escos look prehistoric.
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RS all the way.
If ya want a family car go for da ST but RS will win hands down looks 110% betta nd will keep their price betta! look at the ST3 £21k to buy new 6months down da line cn pick em up £16-17k.
ive raced an ST one of my m8ts has one nd i won (both have similar bhp/modifications!)
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If ya want a family car go for da ST but RS will win hands down looks 110% betta nd will keep their price betta! look at the ST3 £21k to buy new 6months down da line cn pick em up £16-17k.
ive raced an ST one of my m8ts has one nd i won (both have similar bhp/modifications!)
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The ST is a lot smoother though and better built so surely it will feel slower as many have said. What feels quicker and what are faster are two different things.
Talking purely car for car and not any of the RS badge or rarity crap then i would take the ST anyday.
Fastford quotes vertially the same 0-60 and the ST as a faster top speed.
How many will drive these cars on the track more than road anyway!
Talking purely car for car and not any of the RS badge or rarity crap then i would take the ST anyday.
Fastford quotes vertially the same 0-60 and the ST as a faster top speed.
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Originally Posted by skeg
The ST is a lot smoother though and better built so surely it will feel slower as many have said. What feels quicker and what are faster are two different things.
Talking purely car for car and not any of the RS badge or rarity crap then i would take the ST anyday.
Fastford quotes vertially the same 0-60 and the ST as a faster top speed.
How many will drive these cars on the track more than road anyway!
Talking purely car for car and not any of the RS badge or rarity crap then i would take the ST anyday.
Fastford quotes vertially the same 0-60 and the ST as a faster top speed.
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Have you driven either?
Quoting top speeds is as relevant as questioning track use. I've tracked my RS twice in a year, and had it flat out once, and that wasn't on a track. It's nigh on impossible to drive at those sort of speeds these days on the roads, unless you like prison.
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Originally Posted by morto
sorry to say this guys, after 10 years of driving my s2 .. jumped into my mates mint very low mileige £14000 focus rs and .. just average
i also think thay should of put recaros in it
and as others have said it doesent realy look much at all, i wud deff go for the escort cozz
better lookin and a cozzy
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Have you driven a normal 2.0l focus and a ST170 focus and then the RS Focus ? You would certainly know the difference in the FRS compaired to the other Focus's listed above and then take the 3 Focus's on track and you will completely understand the difference between them (i know i do between my ST170 and my FRS
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Have to say tho on track with my RST with a few suspension mods felt like it turned in better and had a better feel on the exit a corner than my std FRS does but the FRS carries far more speed into, through and out of the corner but doesnt give the driver the feel i used to get with the RST.
On the road you can go stupidly quick with a FRS through corners and keep flat on the throttle in places where my RST would have to have a lift and brake to take the same corners. The FRS has better feel and confidence on the road compaired to my old RST that i wouldnt go back
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I loved my FRS and really rated it
Also really rate the ST (my mum has one) but its deffo less extreme then the RS in terms of driving experience
If i had the choice I'd like the FRS but with the ST3 interior as the FRS interior was embrassingly boy racer
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Also really rate the ST (my mum has one) but its deffo less extreme then the RS in terms of driving experience
If i had the choice I'd like the FRS but with the ST3 interior as the FRS interior was embrassingly boy racer
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Originally Posted by morto
tonyk, i wasent comparing it to a s2 mate
i was stating that it felt just average and in the looks department the escort cozz wins hands down
best looking car ford ever made, the focus just looks like any other focus unlike the escort cozz
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No disrepect but if you thought the Focus RS was average how could you go back to driving the RST. As I said my RST had no expense spared on it and it was terrible to drive especially compared to any modern car.
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And just to start a war again, the FRS was about 2 secs slower than the M3. ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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Chipped. decatted, fat zorst and a K&N and it's not far off now, i've tried it. 90-140+ nowt in it.
Asbestos suit on, here we go again.
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