Philloy Single or twin strut bar
22-11-2006, 08:02 AM
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Philloy Single or twin strut bar
Morning all,
im getting a philloy strut bar for xmas but im not sure which one to get! Please help!!
Cheers
im getting a philloy strut bar for xmas but im not sure which one to get! Please help!!
Cheers
11-12-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by markyd3
I think the twin looks better plus I assume its slightly stronger.
I think Philloy may do a rear brace but not a twin.
Paul at North Yorks is probably the man to speak to
I think Philloy may do a rear brace but not a twin.
Paul at North Yorks is probably the man to speak to
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11-12-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by markyd3
I shall post some pics on my twin when i get home, unless of course someone beats me to it!!
11-12-2006, 05:14 PM
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no i also had my breather in the way too,,,,, the only reason i remmeber it is cause the turbo feed pipe had stray bits of metal that always fooking scratched my arm when checking the oil
the reason why i stop checking the oil
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11-12-2006, 05:37 PM
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Those type of rear braces are purely cosmetic - all they do is pivot on the mounting point of the rear shock on one bolt - any movement will just cause them to see saw - they need to be triangulated to a fixed point to have any effect or bracketed directly to the floor directly below them.
Save your money unless you just want something shiney in the boot
Save your money unless you just want something shiney in the boot
12-12-2006, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by a.k.a
Those type of rear braces are purely cosmetic - all they do is pivot on the mounting point of the rear shock on one bolt - any movement will just cause them to see saw - they need to be triangulated to a fixed point to have any effect or bracketed directly to the floor directly below them.
Save your money unless you just want something shiney in the boot
Save your money unless you just want something shiney in the boot
Can someone please clarify please
12-12-2006, 08:33 AM
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it would be easier to have one made than try to modify the ones shown.
Just think about it, imagine if you hold one end of the bar with a pair of fingers then hold the other end in a similar way
Now move one hand up upwards in an arc, as if the shock is being pushed up (or even downwards for chassis flex) whats to stop that happening - nothing, the bar certainly does not, as it will just swivel at the other end.
You need another fixed point along the axis line of the bar to stop the upwards movement, an easy way is a bracket from the bar down to the boot floot, bolted down to the floor, either centally or better still one in each corner about 20cms in from the mounting point on the shock
Even better is a bar coming off the same place as the mounting point on the shock down to the centre point of the main bar, at boot floor level - then another the same at the other end, then another bar where these meet on the boot floor going striaght up to meet the main bar - fully triangulated then.
Just think about it, imagine if you hold one end of the bar with a pair of fingers then hold the other end in a similar way
Now move one hand up upwards in an arc, as if the shock is being pushed up (or even downwards for chassis flex) whats to stop that happening - nothing, the bar certainly does not, as it will just swivel at the other end.
You need another fixed point along the axis line of the bar to stop the upwards movement, an easy way is a bracket from the bar down to the boot floot, bolted down to the floor, either centally or better still one in each corner about 20cms in from the mounting point on the shock
Even better is a bar coming off the same place as the mounting point on the shock down to the centre point of the main bar, at boot floor level - then another the same at the other end, then another bar where these meet on the boot floor going striaght up to meet the main bar - fully triangulated then.
12-12-2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by a.k.a
it would be easier to have one made than try to modify the ones shown.
Just think about it, imagine if you hold one end of the bar with a pair of fingers then hold the other end in a similar way
Now move one hand up upwards in an arc, as if the shock is being pushed up (or even downwards for chassis flex) whats to stop that happening - nothing, the bar certainly does not, as it will just swivel at the other end.
You need another fixed point along the axis line of the bar to stop the upwards movement, an easy way is a bracket from the bar down to the boot floot, bolted down to the floor, either centally or better still one in each corner about 20cms in from the mounting point on the shock
Even better is a bar coming off the same place as the mounting point on the shock down to the centre point of the main bar, at boot floor level - then another the same at the other end, then another bar where these meet on the boot floor going striaght up to meet the main bar - fully triangulated then.
Just think about it, imagine if you hold one end of the bar with a pair of fingers then hold the other end in a similar way
Now move one hand up upwards in an arc, as if the shock is being pushed up (or even downwards for chassis flex) whats to stop that happening - nothing, the bar certainly does not, as it will just swivel at the other end.
You need another fixed point along the axis line of the bar to stop the upwards movement, an easy way is a bracket from the bar down to the boot floot, bolted down to the floor, either centally or better still one in each corner about 20cms in from the mounting point on the shock
Even better is a bar coming off the same place as the mounting point on the shock down to the centre point of the main bar, at boot floor level - then another the same at the other end, then another bar where these meet on the boot floor going striaght up to meet the main bar - fully triangulated then.
12-12-2006, 10:31 AM
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they tend to be custom made, dont have a pic to hand, lots of people fit the ones shown above without really thinking about how it should work, and just assume its doing what it should, when all it really does it look bling.
Contact Mike R or someone similar - they should be able to help out supplying an item that actually works
Contact Mike R or someone similar - they should be able to help out supplying an item that actually works
28-12-2006, 09:31 AM
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I went with a twin,
"it looks like it is suppose to be there rather than a single bar"
words my my lovely misses but i do have to kinda agree....
"it looks like it is suppose to be there rather than a single bar"
words my my lovely misses
but i do have to kinda agree....
29-12-2006, 03:37 AM
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Speak with Danny B(Adrenaline Racing), he's making a rear strut brace that is triangulated and I believe mounts up in alingment with the diff on the boot floor.
29-12-2006, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Speak with Danny B(Adrenaline Racing), he's making a rear strut brace that is triangulated and I believe mounts up in alingment with the diff on the boot floor.
29-12-2006, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Speak with Danny B(Adrenaline Racing), he's making a rear strut brace that is triangulated and I believe mounts up in alingment with the diff on the boot floor.
29-12-2006, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Speak with Danny B(Adrenaline Racing), he's making a rear strut brace that is triangulated and I believe mounts up in alingment with the diff on the boot floor.
Luke does now have an Adrenaline rear brace.
29-12-2006, 04:19 PM
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Cool guys, glad I could help
When I come here at night after work, I usually click on the "View post since last visit" link then go the last page.. .Of course I answered and then I saw after it, the other post LOL.
Glad you got it sorted, Nice work Danny by the way
When I come here at night after work, I usually click on the "View post since last visit" link then go the last page.. .Of course I answered and then I saw after it, the other post LOL.
Glad you got it sorted, Nice work Danny by the way
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