washing/claying/waxing/polishing?
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What order is it done?
I know most car shampoo's have a wax in them?
wash
clay
wash
wax
polish?
never know wht to buy an why im buying it really
have tried the net but theirs so much info its a pain to read and get a straight order of whats to be done when.
if I was to buy meguaiers products, what needs bought to do all of the above. . as theirs all different kinds/grades gold class etc takes ages trying to read it all an you need meguiers hee haw after you use ma peesh ah
I know most car shampoo's have a wax in them?
wash
clay
wash
wax
polish?
never know wht to buy an why im buying it really
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if I was to buy meguaiers products, what needs bought to do all of the above. . as theirs all different kinds/grades gold class etc takes ages trying to read it all an you need meguiers hee haw after you use ma peesh ah
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Wash>Clay>Polish>Wax.
For a full set up: Wash>Clay>Polish>Glaze>Seal>Wax
For Diamond White you shouldn't glaze though, or use a heavy carnauba wax - it doesn't suit the colour.
I recommend:
Wash
Clay (Meg's Quik Clay/Poorboy's Clay for something a little more effective)
Polish (by hand) ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze (confusing name but it is a polish - the Americans grade their products differently to what most in the UK are used to)
Seal - Poorboy's EX-P
Wax - Optimum Car Wax - really quick and easy, and the best for white.
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Gareth
For a full set up: Wash>Clay>Polish>Glaze>Seal>Wax
For Diamond White you shouldn't glaze though, or use a heavy carnauba wax - it doesn't suit the colour.
I recommend:
Wash
Clay (Meg's Quik Clay/Poorboy's Clay for something a little more effective)
Polish (by hand) ClearKote Vanilla Moose Glaze (confusing name but it is a polish - the Americans grade their products differently to what most in the UK are used to)
Seal - Poorboy's EX-P
Wax - Optimum Car Wax - really quick and easy, and the best for white.
HTH
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cheers Gareth, can you get all that stuff in Halfrauds? (got some vouchers I need to use up
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cheers Gareth, can you get all that stuff in Halfrauds? (got some vouchers I need to use up
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To see if your paint needs claying, once the car is washed and dried, put your hand in a clear plastic sandwich bag and rub it over the paint - using the palm of your hand. It should feel completely smooth, like wet glass. If you can feel lumps and bumps, then it needs claying
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Originally Posted by Gaz7
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WTF is claying ![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
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To see if your paint needs claying, once the car is washed and dried, put your hand in a clear plastic sandwich bag and rub it over the paint - using the palm of your hand. It should feel completely smooth, like wet glass. If you can feel lumps and bumps, then it needs claying
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Clay - go for Quik Clay.
Polish - Their Deep Crystal stuff isn't proper polish - but stage one is a paint cleaner, so you'd use this. Stage two, which they call a 'pure polish' is actually a glaze and won't do anything for your paint.
Wax - i don't recommend the Gold Class stuff, it's probably the worst GC product - loads of better waxes available - it wouldn't suit white anyway. Meg's don't do a wax along the lines of OCW so there's no alternative
If you want to stick with Meg's you'll be best off with NXT tech wax - it's a bit of an all in one, with some cleaning, glaze and sealing properties. It's durability is poor though.
Pick up some Gold Class applicators too, as they're good
Gareth
Polish - Their Deep Crystal stuff isn't proper polish - but stage one is a paint cleaner, so you'd use this. Stage two, which they call a 'pure polish' is actually a glaze and won't do anything for your paint.
Wax - i don't recommend the Gold Class stuff, it's probably the worst GC product - loads of better waxes available - it wouldn't suit white anyway. Meg's don't do a wax along the lines of OCW so there's no alternative
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If you want to stick with Meg's you'll be best off with NXT tech wax - it's a bit of an all in one, with some cleaning, glaze and sealing properties. It's durability is poor though.
Pick up some Gold Class applicators too, as they're good
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by Gaz7
Originally Posted by CossieRich
WTF is claying ![Red Faced](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
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To see if your paint needs claying, once the car is washed and dried, put your hand in a clear plastic sandwich bag and rub it over the paint - using the palm of your hand. It should feel completely smooth, like wet glass. If you can feel lumps and bumps, then it needs claying
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It's not useless, Meg's and AG are both very good - it's just that from personal experience of trying LOTS (
) of stuff, there's much better stuff out there for the same/similar money - including stuff which can beat much more expensive products if you select the right ones for your colour.
If you've got vouchers to use up though (how much?) go for the clay, some applicators, and your pick of the polishes/ tech wax. Or go for alternative products that you may need, like the Endurance tyre gel, which is one of the better gels, or anything else![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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If you've got vouchers to use up though (how much?) go for the clay, some applicators, and your pick of the polishes/ tech wax. Or go for alternative products that you may need, like the Endurance tyre gel, which is one of the better gels, or anything else
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Halfords is pretty expensive, so you could go for a lambs wool mitt (about Ł10 i think), Quik Clay (not sure, but probably about Ł15 in HF's) 2x GC applicators (probably Ł4ish each) then make the rest up for anything else that takes your fancy ![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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When it comes to claying I've taken to doing it using shampoo suds as lube. I shampoo the car as normal and then rinse, then with a bucket of suds go round claying.
Gaz has covered everything really and I'd take his advice, especially regarding the applicators pads and clothes.
Nice to see a car cleaning post properly answered really.
Gaz has covered everything really and I'd take his advice, especially regarding the applicators pads and clothes.
Nice to see a car cleaning post properly answered really.
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Originally Posted by Gaz7
Polish - Their Deep Crystal stuff isn't proper polish - but stage one is a paint cleaner, so you'd use this. Stage two, which they call a 'pure polish' is actually a glaze and won't do anything for your paint.
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Originally Posted by Gaz7
Polish - Their Deep Crystal stuff isn't proper polish - but stage one is a paint cleaner, so you'd use this. Stage two, which they call a 'pure polish' is actually a glaze and won't do anything for your paint.
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I will be honest here and admit, until a few weeks ago i didnt even know polish and wax wasnt teh same thing!
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youd be surprised how dirty it gets Rab, after a wash the paint feels grity unless you polish it (like every 3rd wash)
least I can keep one long enough to even wash
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least I can keep one long enough to even wash
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
youd be surprised how dirty it gets Rab, after a wash the paint feels grity unless you polish it (like every 3rd wash)
least I can keep one long enough to even wash
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least I can keep one long enough to even wash
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I will be honest here and admit, until a few weeks ago i didnt even know polish and wax wasnt the same thing!
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and I've used both...
but used them in the wrong order
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Gaz set me st8.
Sell the vouchers to a m8 and spend ya cash with Gaz!
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MWF - that's cool if you have a clay/shampoo combo that works fine - the only thing to point out to some people new to claying is that some shampoos will destroy clay bars due to their ingredients, so you'll have wasted your money
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I've actually managed to reply to a cleaning thread without being slated
It doesn't feel right; someone slate me, quick
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I've actually managed to reply to a cleaning thread without being slated
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Originally Posted by Gaz7
Polish - Their Deep Crystal stuff isn't proper polish - but stage one is a paint cleaner, so you'd use this. Stage two, which they call a 'pure polish' is actually a glaze and won't do anything for your paint.
The opposite applies to dark colours. I can't quite make it out from your sig, but is your car solid black? Dark colours respond extremely well to glazes (the opposite of white really) - ClearKote Red Moose Glaze is the best for this. It really richens up dark colours like Imperial Blue, solid reds and blacks etc.
If your car is solid black, consider using that glaze, and a good finishing wax. It's not talked about much, but ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax is truly awesome on black cars, and loads more durable than some other waxes that perform well on black, like Pinnacle.
For dark metallics, you can choose products to give the finish you want, either enhancing the flake, or muting it for a moody wet look
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Sell the vouchers to a m8 and spend ya cash with Gaz!
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Out of interest tho, how much would all that set me back Gaz?
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Originally Posted by Gaz7
In that case i meant that he could use the product, but it won't improve the finish, so there's little point.
The opposite applies to dark colours. I can't quite make it out from your sig, but is your car solid black? Dark colours respond extremely well to glazes (the opposite of white really) - ClearKote Red Moose Glaze is the best for this. It really richens up dark colours like Imperial Blue, solid reds and blacks etc.
If your car is solid black, consider using that glaze, and a good finishing wax. It's not talked about much, but ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax is truly awesome on black cars, and loads more durable than some other waxes that perform well on black, like Pinnacle.
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The opposite applies to dark colours. I can't quite make it out from your sig, but is your car solid black? Dark colours respond extremely well to glazes (the opposite of white really) - ClearKote Red Moose Glaze is the best for this. It really richens up dark colours like Imperial Blue, solid reds and blacks etc.
If your car is solid black, consider using that glaze, and a good finishing wax. It's not talked about much, but ClearKote Carnauba Moose Wax is truly awesome on black cars, and loads more durable than some other waxes that perform well on black, like Pinnacle.
For dark metallics, you can choose products to give the finish you want, either enhancing the flake, or muting it for a moody wet look
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yes the 4i is solid black, i've also got a dark metalic blue passat and and apache orange metalic tvr, the missus has a metalic silver puma. I do like the metal flake look on the metalics though
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