polly_x

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I'll be at quite a few track days next year and 100% the Passionford one if it happens so no probs for a ride.

Hope to be racing it in the Time Attack series too if they decide to let us coffin dodgers in next year. Hopefully be enough to have our own class maybe as as much as I would like to beat some of the big boys in tin tops, its not really fair to put us against them.

This has gone a bit off topic now, but hopefully answered some of the ALS questions that were originally posed.

Stavros

Time Attack had a seperate coffin dodgem class this year mate, so should next year too, loadsa atoms and shit in the later rounds

polly_x

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Ahh, cool. I thought that Duncan went along and annoyed a few people with some silly fast times in the DAX and there was a debate over it. They must have got it sorted then! Good.

Been talking to Rob at Time Attack and he seems fairly confident to have the class next year.

Hopefully will be taking part.

justin.e

Polly x,
sounds like a proper toy best of luck with it

Porkie

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seconded!!!

Driven an R500... and that was mental. God knows what yours would feel like

Been in a Dax 4x4 with 400bhp... that was MENTAL

polly_x

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Porkie, no probs with a passenger ride anytime. You doing anymore track days this year? Im thinking of one more at Snetterton or Bedford in late Nov or early Dec but will leave it to see what the weather is like.

Im at that stage deciding wether to lay the car up for the winter and do some rebuild upgrading on the handling. Planning on wide tracking the front and just re bushing everything as its had a lot of use this year. Its a tough one as once I start its off the road til next year!!!!

There is also the idea of building a Rush Quadra over the winter too. Ive got a spare engine same spec as the Westy one in the garage that I could chuck in with a big GT series turbo and go the whole hog. Just not sure of what the standard 4x4 box and diffs would cope like in a light weight car?

Could still take one of the other cars tracking in Dec, but just hate the tyre/brakes bill associated with it!!!!!

GARETH T

what other machines you got?

RichardPON

Put me down for a passenger ride as well please mate!

Absolutely love my kit car stuff, having helped build a Dax Tojeiro, and having driven a green T34 Dax Rush as well.

Would love to go down this road sometime in the future.......

Charlie Chalk

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why's the back end so high up being RWD? Surley it would put better times down if it was lower...

polly_x

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Got a Porsche Cayenne Turbo which believe it or not is a track weapon, but you can imagine what 2 and a half tonnes of drifting 4x4 does to the tyres!!!.....also got a Boxster which is not the fastest thing but again a good track car, and a half finished Saff Coz track car that I need to get sorted too!!!!

the original

Back on to the topic of ALS, can anyone on here help me

I'm testing a new ALS 'product' for L8 but i'm short of an ALS valve...
can't afford to buy a mountune one as i only need it temporarily while i do the testing as i don't want ALS permanently

can anyone lend me one for a few weeks?
thought i would try, don't mind leaving a deposit on it....
cheers

_DAN_

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...&q=cossie+anti

PGT

one thing to bear in mind polly about big power rush quadra (mine is 'low' - t34 / greys / head work / low comp etc) is that the chassis twists. according to peter@dax when a decent engine is installed in a 4x4 rush and you mount a camera on the rear hoop, at max torque you can see the windscreen move 10mm sort of put me off a gt30.

incidentally porkie mentioned an r500 - my pal who does tracjk days with me gets annoyed intensly as he can drive better than me but cant get me on the straights and now i'm learning how to drive i find the rear r888's get slippy after a few laps but i can still out corner him as my front ones grip like sh*t to blanket. generally, as a member of the ne7ers club and doing track days with them they view a 4x4 rush with a tuned yb as 'abusing' thier mantra of performance by removing weight.

GARETH T

nice selection of cars

Mike Rainbird

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If you have a spare ISCV (must be in good condition) sitting about, I can have this modified for ALS no problem (FOC to you to help aid development ).

GARETH T

funny you say that mike,,, my job for today in work, is to make myself a new als valve as i fancy having it fitted again

ian sibbert

GARETH T

very cool ian,,, a nice different approach aswell

GARETH T

my plan was to use the standard coil of the ISCV but with a slug much like that

ian sibbert

Personally I seemed to have nowt but trouble with the modifed ISCV....they either get filthy very quick and dont lift or stick open, they are very inconsistant in operation....

GARETH T

i dont know anyone who hasnt had trouble with them

GARETH T

i made this years ago

ian sibbert

I've had the standard item in bits and they are toatlly unservicable once you seperate them....we can machine the M4 penetration to use the stainless bolt and modified valve but IMO they are still pretty useless....

The next way we were thinking was an electronically driven throttle....2 linear potentiometers and a stepper on the throttle, some how define different limits when the ALS was on to jack open the butterfly....just not had the time to get the bit together yet....

Rippers

I just bought this one (Mountune version I believe), never seen one before.. I've heard people talking spring pretention etc Is there a spring inside the valve? as the top hat freely moves in and out on my one?

IN



OUT

Stavros

paul- no, its an electromagnet.

mine was the same style as yours

Rippers

Cool

polly_x

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Mine moves freely like that too. Ive seen people put springs on them to aid the closing and also to get round the revving when starting.

Cant say Ive had any problems with mine sticking but it gets very little use compared to a normal road car I guess. I also whip it out every now and then and give it a clean. (The ALS valve that is).

Not sure if anyone has any views on this but I have found my ALS is less agressive since I fitted a Swedish inlet? Any crazy theories why?

Rippers

Guys how do I put a switch for on and off for this valve?

Mike Rainbird

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You will need a double pole relay (one with two pairs of normally open contacts) to install a switch that prevents the revving up Polly X talks about.

Connect one set of contacts in place of original ALS switch (this will tell the ECU whether to enable ALS or not). Connect one set of contacts in line with the ALS valve by cutting one of the wires (doesn't matter which one) going to the ALS valve (so that it breaks the circuit to the valve).

Wire the one coil terminal of the relay though the chosen ALS switch to 12v, connect the other coil terminal to chassis.

Method of operation:
When the ALS switch is off, the relay is un-energised therefor the valve has no power and the signal to the ECU disables ALS. When the ALS switch is on, the relay energises and connects the valve to power (via one set of contacts) and at the same time signals the ECU to enable the ALS.

Rippers

Cheers Mike Which is the als switch pin on the ECU?

Have I got to send this loom off to Ryan again

Also Harvey told me the 12 pot boost switch won't work now.. but will it work with the ALS switched off?

Mike Rainbird

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I can't rememeber, although I know it's not pin 12, as that is WI .

I did not know it worked like that, I thought that the four injector ALS board just didn't support 12 position boost control .

Stavros

Pin 19 innit?

polly_x

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If I remember it:

PIN 13 for ALS ON/OFF
PIN 34 to Cut the ISCV

Think thats it?

Sorry, think I got it wrong.

Its PIN 14 for ON/OFF

Porkie

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I neeeeeed a ride in Pollys car Trouble is I won't go as a passenger with anyone since the accident

Guess that only leaves one option

Mike Rainbird

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To buy the car off him ?

Porkie

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and a for me!!!

polly_x

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Porkie, im pretty similar. Cant get enough of me driving like a lunatic but hate being a passenger with anyone else after a crash some years back.

GARETH T

sorry for being a copy cat,,i made one very much like that this evening

will post pics before the weekend hopefully my new coil will turn up wed as i could only find 24v coils in work

DENNIS

here is my car with ALS , same problem with cold start, revving on start up but looking at making some changes to solve that, although it don't bother me that much as it don't go anywhere till is hot . holds 5psi at idle, fantastic to drive

have not had any problems with ISCV.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...scort+cosworth

Stavros

wassat u made mate? and wat advantages it have?