Help needed...threatended with solicitors...private sale....
01-10-2006, 10:56 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Only thing thats bothering me is that in the Advert is said my mate had come off in a slow slide. I only guessed it had been in some sort of slow slide because the right footrest was wore, the exhaust was dented and i could tell the right fairing was newer than the left. So rather than just try to hide that, i said i knew it had been in a slow slide...but i just guessed...thats whats bothering me 
Id feel better if i hadnt said anything about it,as i knew nothing about it, but im too honest for my own good
Id feel better if i hadnt said anything about it,as i knew nothing about it, but im too honest for my own good
I bought the bike, and when polishing and shit little things stood out and i thought this has been in a slide.. So, not wanting to put on my add ''i think its been in a slide'' and put i knew it had....Why i dont know
ANYWAYS..
Talked it over with Lindsay, and im giving him his money back. Im too nice and honest to not do....
mate its not your nice and honesy mate,,,,,, YOUR A FUCKING MAN AND NOT A PRICK
fairplay mate
a few more people like you in life and just imagine what the country could be like i rate you highly for this,,,,, not that my opinion counts for shite but yoou really are a proper bloke
01-10-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Talked it over with Lindsay, and im giving him his money back. Im too nice and honest to not do....
Fair play Lee, your a true gent for your actions
..now go and grab the scrote you bought it off and see what he has to say for himself
...and as for some of you, now think about if it had been you and what had you done. I cant believe some of the replies and will definelty make sure I never deal with you if thats your attitude
01-10-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ajaj4747
at the end of the day, the guy should of checked the bike over properly, if he knew it had been in some kind of slide, he should of ued his mind and checked the bike more thoroughly, thats like me going to buy a cossie and knowing its been in a crash and not checking the damage. for all we know the guy may of come off the bike and caused more damage, and is trying to pull the wool over your eyes to ge his cash back...truthfully mate its down to the buyer not the seller...
mate its down to the fucking seller to think of others before they sell a 160mph death machine and then to the buyer to check its as is discribed
if a company sold a death trap they would be done for it,,, the only reason why private people get off it is cause theres less chance of getting the money back as if you own a business you tend to have a few k sitting about for kipper periods
hes made the right desision and ffs dont ever sell anything if you dont care what you sell,,,,, with performace toys you are fuckign with peoples lives,,,,, bet that if he had a crash in the death bike/car and its turned out he bought it 3 days ago before he died the old bills reply would be " on the bill of sale it said sold as scene,,,,, lucky you did that mate or we would have taken you in for questioning
seriously think of the bigger picture
ever stuck sawdust in gearbox or some stop smoke to help sell the fucked motors in your life mate
01-10-2006, 11:03 AM
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Lee for all you know HE dropped the bike and bent the frame!!!
It's been a good 2 weeks since you sold it. What if he's conning you?
It's been a good 2 weeks since you sold it. What if he's conning you?
01-10-2006, 11:10 AM
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i had a similar thing with a vts i bought the other month basically if you did state " sold as seen" theres NOTHING they can do trust me i tryed everything
like some people have said he could have just found a different bike or have caused it himself be careful
like some people have said he could have just found a different bike or have caused it himself be careful
01-10-2006, 11:10 AM
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lee would notice if hes dropped the bike im sure,,,, and if he has,,,,,, THEN BRICK THE FUCKER UP BEHIND THE WALL OF YOUR NEXT DEVELOPMENT
but i doubt he has though or im sure lee wouldnt have had top think about this
but i doubt he has though or im sure lee wouldnt have had top think about this
01-10-2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Nath
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Talked it over with Lindsay, and im giving him his money back. Im too nice and honest to not do....
Fair play Lee, your a true gent for your actions
..now go and grab the scrote you bought it off and see what he has to say for himself
...and as for some of you, now think about if it had been you and what had you done. I cant believe some of the replies and will definelty make sure I never deal with you if thats your attitude
Only agree to pay the money back AFTER you have checked that the bike hasn't incurred any damage during the time the bloke has owned it..... make that a proviso when you contact him and if there is..... reduce the refund accordingly.
01-10-2006, 11:19 AM
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what i would do is ask him for a written report from who ever said the frame was bent etc or get the aa / rac to inspect it then if they say the bike is unsafe then you can decide whether to give him his money back
01-10-2006, 11:21 AM
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Mate i would tell him he can have a refund if he provides you with an independent engineers report saying that it has a bent frame...
Other then that tell him to go take a funny run. He aint got a leg to stand on...
And as said who to say he aint bined it himself painted the faring and now wants a refund.......
Be careful he aint pulling a fast one.........
Other then that tell him to go take a funny run. He aint got a leg to stand on...
And as said who to say he aint bined it himself painted the faring and now wants a refund.......
Be careful he aint pulling a fast one.........
01-10-2006, 11:31 AM
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ok mayb b19bal is rite about what i said, however reading the other post, he sold it 2 weeks ago, so why would the buyer wait this long? i maybe wrong and the bike may have been bent when sold but if lee accepts that it was bent before it was sold then fairplay.
01-10-2006, 11:37 AM
#52
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Nath
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Talked it over with Lindsay, and im giving him his money back. Im too nice and honest to not do....
Fair play Lee, your a true gent for your actions
..now go and grab the scrote you bought it off and see what he has to say for himself
...and as for some of you, now think about if it had been you and what had you done. I cant believe some of the replies and will definelty make sure I never deal with you if thats your attitude
Only agree to pay the money back AFTER you have checked that the bike hasn't incurred any damage during the time the bloke has owned it..... make that a proviso when you contact him and if there is..... reduce the refund accordingly.
As Lynne says.
what about selling it next time Lee.
01-10-2006, 11:45 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Nath
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Talked it over with Lindsay, and im giving him his money back. Im too nice and honest to not do....
Fair play Lee, your a true gent for your actions
..now go and grab the scrote you bought it off and see what he has to say for himself
...and as for some of you, now think about if it had been you and what had you done. I cant believe some of the replies and will definelty make sure I never deal with you if thats your attitude
Only agree to pay the money back AFTER you have checked that the bike hasn't incurred any damage during the time the bloke has owned it..... make that a proviso when you contact him and if there is..... reduce the refund accordingly.
As Lynne says.
what about selling it next time Lee.
dave he will sell it as spare or repairs
01-10-2006, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Nath
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Talked it over with Lindsay, and im giving him his money back. Im too nice and honest to not do....
Fair play Lee, your a true gent for your actions
..now go and grab the scrote you bought it off and see what he has to say for himself
...and as for some of you, now think about if it had been you and what had you done. I cant believe some of the replies and will definelty make sure I never deal with you if thats your attitude
Only agree to pay the money back AFTER you have checked that the bike hasn't incurred any damage during the time the bloke has owned it..... make that a proviso when you contact him and if there is..... reduce the refund accordingly.
As Lynne says.
what about selling it next time Lee.
dave he will sell it as spare or repairs
Let the buyer beware covers the whole situation.
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01-10-2006, 11:52 AM
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Make sure you check that the damage is as he states..and wasn't within the time he's owned it...two weeks is a longish time really in this sort of instance..(esp if his dad's been riding 30 years..wouldn't you spot it?) ask for an independant engineers report as said..if he's an honest bloke he won't mind getting the report done...
Good on you for being honest/offering a refund
Just make sure everything fits before you hand over any cash..
Good on you for being honest/offering a refund
Just make sure everything fits before you hand over any cash..
01-10-2006, 11:54 AM
#56
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mate a fucked engine is diffferent to a second hand engine
and fucked 160 machine is fucking dangerous !!!!!!, selling it as parts is alot safer
hes made the right choice and PROVED hes a honest person and more concerned about people that paper
and fucked 160 machine is fucking dangerous !!!!!!, selling it as parts is alot safer
hes made the right choice and PROVED hes a honest person and more concerned about people that paper
01-10-2006, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeE30
Mate i would tell him he can have a refund if he provides you with an independent engineers report saying that it has a bent frame...
Other then that tell him to go take a funny run. He aint got a leg to stand on...
And as said who to say he aint bined it himself painted the faring and now wants a refund.......
Be careful he aint pulling a fast one.........
Other then that tell him to go take a funny run. He aint got a leg to stand on...
And as said who to say he aint bined it himself painted the faring and now wants a refund.......
Be careful he aint pulling a fast one.........
Perhaps when he came to view/buy it he noticed you were the honest sort, stating that you thought it had been in a slide when most folks would of kept stum would of conviced him of this, now he's either dropped it or decided he doesnt want it or seen something else, either way it sounds dodgy to me.
As Joe said, get a report on the bike done, how has he found out its bent now when both him and his dad came to look at it with the knowledge it had been in a slide?
Dont be to quick to feel like a cunt lee, I know because I'm the same adn always describe things best I can when selling stuff, including the bad bits.
RAC/AA inspections are paid for buy the potential buyer is that correct? thats because even if the seller is as honest as the day is long he cant possibly know the ENTIRE history of what he's selling, hence its the buyers duty/choice to ensure what they are buying is as described, especially when the seller has been honest and stated its been damaged previous.
PS, had it been through an MOT since the slide/damage?
01-10-2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Katie
Make sure you check that the damage is as he states..and wasn't within the time he's owned it...two weeks is a longish time really in this sort of instance..(esp if his dad's been riding 30 years..wouldn't you spot it?) ask for an independant engineers report as said..if he's an honest bloke he won't mind getting the report done...
Good on you for being honest/offering a refund
Just make sure everything fits before you hand over any cash..
Good on you for being honest/offering a refund
Just make sure everything fits before you hand over any cash..
katie belive it or not riding anything for any length of time dont mean you know fuck all about em,,,,,, how many old people buy kia's,,,,,, christ it dont take buttons pit crew to notice there cheep shitty cars
porkie has a super power and speced cossie,,,,, would you think he can build a engine for a car and it be reliable or do you think he just gets in a drives
my old man has been driving over 30 years and owned LOADS of cars,,,,, he really liked my sierra,,,,, even noticed it was " one of them ghia models" cause it had a leather trim and also said hes pleased ive stopped buying boy racer cars and speed everywhere and settled down with a nice family car,,, shame i never got a newer one but having just bought a flat ect he understands if im not flush for money,,, its in good condition for they year though
wasnt untill i took him out he understood what car it was,,,, he even heard of a cosworth but i scared him enough that he NEVER went out in that car again !!!!!!
infact its only 3 weeks ago till he accepted a lift from me,,,,, thats 3years maybe that he wouldnt get into a car with me
moral of the storey,,,,,, time dont mean shite unless they WORK and make a LIVING in that industry !!!!!
01-10-2006, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
lee pm gurnE and ask him what you bike will fetch as spares on ebay roughly
Front discs £50
Front Calipers £70
Front master cylinder £35
Forks & yokes £175
Top fairing £125
Clocks £80
Headlight £125
Headlight subframe £35
Frame, I'd guess somewhere between £250-500 dependant on damage & history
Tank £125
Radiator £80
Airbox £30
Throttle bodies £65
Engine £550
Fairing £200
Seat unit £75
Subframe £75
Swingarm £75
Hangers complete £50
CDI £95
Rear disc £25
Can £40
Shock £75
Clip ons £40
Lock set £45
Rear caliper £25
Rear master cylinder £25
Loom £50
Screen £10
Mirrors £25
Single seat conversion £50
Seat £25
Assuming it's all in good nick and that's far from a comprehensive list and I'm not to hot on GSXR prices as I've been out the trade a while but that little lot is £2975-3225 at least and that's not counting all the crap you'd be left with that adds the odd 5, 10, 20 quid here and there (rear light, passenger pegs, mudguard, switchgear, indicators etc etc etc)
Might be best selling the bodywork/tank as one due to the paint scheme tho.
It's just the hassle of a million ebay auctions/trips to the post office
I'd have told him to break it himself personally
01-10-2006, 12:39 PM
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gurnE you forgot too include the petrol in the tank there
also the cash you make on postage too,,, seriously the cash ive spent o postage costs on ebay is fucking anoying and you get a the think wrapped in a old news paper in a old crisp box and it was sent second class for 1.20 and you got charged 10 quid
also the cash you make on postage too,,, seriously the cash ive spent o postage costs on ebay is fucking anoying and you get a the think wrapped in a old news paper in a old crisp box and it was sent second class for 1.20 and you got charged 10 quid
01-10-2006, 12:40 PM
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Well done for being a fair and honest chap, when I bought my first escort, I asked many standard questions like 'has the car been in an accident' and 'why doesn't the temparature gauge work'. I was met with no its a mint motor and the temp gauge just needs a new sender so I parted with my £950 (*not lots of money but I dont earn much so alot to me).
2 weeks later it all became clear that it had been in unregistered accident and wasnt even roadworthy, bits missing out of the engine etc. Another £900 quid later I now have a good runner that is reliable so im happy, but it cost me £900 more than I had the intention of paying in the first place!.
I wouldn't have gone back to the guy because he was big, wore gold chains, and was sniffing alot when he was describing the car and I suspect that his response would be : 'fuck off mate, sold as seen' however, its nice to see that there are some honest blokes about.
Doesn't look too bad for you anyway bearing in mind the amount you should pick up for breaking it.
2 weeks later it all became clear that it had been in unregistered accident and wasnt even roadworthy, bits missing out of the engine etc. Another £900 quid later I now have a good runner that is reliable so im happy, but it cost me £900 more than I had the intention of paying in the first place!.
I wouldn't have gone back to the guy because he was big, wore gold chains, and was sniffing alot when he was describing the car and I suspect that his response would be : 'fuck off mate, sold as seen' however, its nice to see that there are some honest blokes about.
Doesn't look too bad for you anyway bearing in mind the amount you should pick up for breaking it.
01-10-2006, 05:46 PM
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Cheers for the input again chaps..
The bike will be getting a proper inspection before i give him the money back dont worry lol...but, i think id tell if he has damaged it....he only picked it up on wednesday so i dont think hes even rode it...
Spoke to him today and im gonna ring DVLA and see what happens with log book...only sent it off saturday
At the end of the day, NO i didnt know it was damged more than i suspected, and it is bought as seen, but im not desperate enough to argue over 2800 pound and leave the young lad with a bike thats his first bike and was excited about it with something hes not happy with and his dad concerend etc etc. I
Im MIGHTY pissed off that its got worse damage than i thought, Im MIGHTY pissed off ive got to fook about with it all and give money back, but ill sleep better
its only money guys
The bike will be getting a proper inspection before i give him the money back dont worry lol...but, i think id tell if he has damaged it....he only picked it up on wednesday so i dont think hes even rode it
...Spoke to him today and im gonna ring DVLA and see what happens with log book...only sent it off saturday
At the end of the day, NO i didnt know it was damged more than i suspected, and it is bought as seen, but im not desperate enough to argue over 2800 pound and leave the young lad with a bike thats his first bike and was excited about it with something hes not happy with and his dad concerend etc etc. I
Im MIGHTY pissed off that its got worse damage than i thought, Im MIGHTY pissed off ive got to fook about with it all and give money back, but ill sleep better
its only money guys
01-10-2006, 06:06 PM
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good on you lee, but its deffo right to get it inspected, check it over yourself too cause you will obviously notice if anythings changed since you sold it
01-10-2006, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DogSmoke
Where did the lad live who bought it? Cause about 3 hours ago I saw a bike just like the one on your sig on the ring road in Leeds
01-10-2006, 07:02 PM
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BTW..
Everyone bar a few on here thinks im daft for doing so, and its sold as seen and should have been inspected properly....all said its not my fault and i should tell him sorry but its not my problem
Everyone bar a few on here thinks im daft for doing so, and its sold as seen and should have been inspected properly....all said its not my fault and i should tell him sorry but its not my problem
