as above really , what are the consiquences if you get cought out??


hmmmmm chips smell

 

Would be the same as running on red diesel as your not paying tax on it..

 

yes

 

Are you sure?

I didn't think there would be an issue with it?

If so, i've learnt something new today!

 

if you pay the fuel tax then its fine to use it.

 

I seem to remember a while back in south wales the supermarkets were running out of oil.It was on the national news and they said they were gonna prosecute any one caught using it.shame really.

 

Ok dumb as fcuk me, but does a car actually run UNAIDED with no ill effects on chip oil ??? as in put it in the tank.....away you go ?

 

Its been tested, on a diesel car, and apparently ran fine as standard, on chip oil!

I believe it was Top Gear that tested it?

 

no, pretty sure you need to mix it with other things, on Top Gear they mixed it with white spirit and other stuff too.

 

yes it runs fine , and it is NOT illegal, as long as you declare the tax duty on it. You can even get the form from the post office for it - and the engines actually run BETTER on veggie oil as it has a higher octane rating than diesel

 

A lad i know runs his astra turbo diesel on veggie oil, he pays £10 a month in fuel making tax so its 100% legal

 

If you pay the duty, which was at 22.5p a litre when I looked into setting up my own filter plant, then you will have no problems

Infact, I may still look at installing my own filter plant

 

You should!

You'd make a fortune, or save a fortune, whichever way you look at it, if you're running a diesel theres massive gains to be had.

 

NO ITS NOT..


If you were caught running Red Diesel in a car or van on the road you would be fined heavily for it and could even be jailed.

However with Veg Oil... make sure its new clean oil and you arent putting it neat into a HDI type engine.

Basically its too thick and wont atomise properly, so you need something to thin it, like parafin or glycerine.

If its an older style diesel engine then no probs.


As for the fuel duty, unlike Red Diesel there is no trace left in the fuel system so there is no way of knowing how much you have used.

It is purely on an honesty basis at the moment, if you send the Customs & Excise a 'contribution' say £50 a mont, they will send you a receipt for the money and if you are stopped you are in the clear.


Its an absolute headache for the Customs & Excise because there is no way of knowing how much you are using so they cant tax you.

And they cant load the price of veg oil with a fuel tax when people are using it to cook food with.... as its not being used as a fuel.



And people keep banging on about how our oil reserves are running out make a mockery when every diesel vehicle could run on veg oil tomorrow with additives in some cases.


Like these green twats banging on about Carbon Dioxide emmissions...

Didnt they do biology.... havent they heard of photo-synthisis ? Plants converting Carbon Dioxide to Oxygen overnight.


Just grow more fookin plants / trees you dumb fooks !!!!!!!


AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

 

as per neil, new style derv cars need a good mix as the pumps aint up to it or summut, but old cars you can run on 100% veg oil but can be a cooont to start if 100% veg

smells good tho

 

Anybody got any site links where it has been discussed before.??

 

I know someone who does this,he mixes white spirit with veg oil, we worked out he would get about 400% more miles for the same cost in petrol.

Not a bad saving if you ask me.

 

can i use this in my mk2 mondeo td?

 

just contribute the minimum possible tax and your fine... asn eil says they cant trace how much you have used,,,


i was running on 70%veg and 30% diesel in my van and in ran and started perfect... just got sick of the smell tbh

 

I can't belive you have to contribute "tax" on it tho!!! I'ts VEG OIL FFS! You already pay VAT on it!!!!

Just goes to show that the money on fuel is in tax, not the cost of oil from the refinery's right?

 

Fucking STINKS of the stuff near Brom's place..

 

You don't pay VAT on vegitable oil Matt

 

Oh I thought you pay VAT on everything except books n stuff

 

you don't pay vat on a lot of food in the supermarket too

 

Oh Didn't know that

 

will it run ok in a sprinter van?it isnt a cdi one.

 

I have an S reg Mondeo TD, do you think it will be ok?

70%oil, 30% white spirit then???

Gunna mix some up tomorrow night...

 

my mate runs an astra diesel on veg oil

he puts 25 litres oil in and mixes it with 10 pounds worth of diesel in and that nearly gives him a full tank...

works out to nearly a full tank for about 20 quid

 

Dan let me know how you get on as I have a P reg mondy td

 

chris next time i do a fry up i will bring you the fat

andy

 

Worth a look. http://www.pocuk.com/forums/viewforu...efa5d1cb05598c

 

A "MATE" of mine runs a car (L plate non Ford, turbo diesel, not saying what sort ) on 50/50 mix with new neat veg oil, runs 100% perfect!

 

My mate runs his 1.7td astra on it, wont start on cold mornings but is fine other than that.

I guess a mix would solve that problem though.

Interesting concept if what Neil says about the "honesty based system" is true.

 

If you aquier used oil from say a chinese take-away, no money changing hands, how can you pay duty on something that doesnt have a price?

Ive heard used oil is better too, obviously filtered.

Also, If you run a Taxi, had a seperate tank in the boot for veg oil, with some sort of system for switching fuels easily and quickly. . think how much money you could save!

 

IF IT SMELLS THAT MUCH COULD ANY BODY DETECT THAT YOU ARE RUNNING ON IT AND COULD THE POLICE STOP YOU FOR IT

 

Components for a full tank purchased today at a cost of £19.


Bargain.

Sure will.

 

veg oil sales increased loads this week

 

Not wise! The mondy TD will have a lucas/CAV injector pump that have a reputation of shearing their shafts at the first sign of slightly thicker fuel.

Try it at your peril!!!

 

I believe its becase its a fixed amount of 45p per litre (the 22.5 mentioned in this thread is for bio diesel) and not related to the price you pay for the fuel

 

so if i go to the post office every month, declare that im using say 25 litres of veg oil as fuel a month and pay my £11.25 in fuel tax, keep the receipt in the car, and if i get stopped and the mention it, i produce the reciept and am in the clear and within the law?

got a 1.5 corsa derv at the mo, on an L plate, already does like 60+mpg, so would cost me litterally pennies to get to work and back using this stuff! the thought crossed my mind when i bought the car but never thought of actually doing it!

get the forms from the post office yes?