im lookin for the best and easiest to understand description of what Schrodinger was trying to tell us with his cat theory..

Schrodinger s cat........lets discuss....lol

 

me and phil m was talking about this about a week ago
he fonud a cracking website

i know you posted this too be smart

 

lol ya nutter, not to be smart just to keep peoples brains working lol

wait for my IQ thread tomorw, im going to post a brain buster every day just for a laf, keeps my brain workin aswell lol

 

if you can explain why the speed of light is the only constant of our universe ill buy you a pint

 

Sounds like a challenge to me, been a while though

 

Ok this might explain it, it might not, or it might be total BS but here goes

The relative speeds depends on the observer, and that relative speed will always be the same. If an observer witnesses light travel past from stand still it will be seen to be travelling at the same speed to an observer, to the extreme, travelling with the light. The quicker the observer travels, the slower time will be, although it will appear normal. So at stand still time will be as normal, and for the observer travelling at the speed of light time will stop meaning it doesn't matter anyway . This I do believe is then proportional in between so travelling very close to the speed of light, time will travel so slow that it would still seem even though there is actually a small difference in speed that the speed of light is the same. Thus explaining speed of light is constant (I hope).

Now the others physical properties are not constant for various reasons, speed of sound affected by speed of travel (doppler effect), weight takes into affect gravitational pull so depends where you are, etc etc

Done

 

no google'iing aswell simon

 

i'll give you 8.5/10 for that, worth a pint aswell

oh no,,,, 2/10 whats this gravity your talking about?

 

Got bored and trailed off at the end

I should really try and proof read better

Edit: re-reading that last bit realised it not the doppler either

 

Because its speed is not affected by the environment in which it is travelling, unlike anything else

 

dont "we" see the speed of light slowing down when it travels though water? refraction?

0/10

 

Light's speed is affected by its environment, the speed of light in a vacuum is different to the speed of light in air, or say glass.

 

or it is the speed of light effecting our enviroment

 

Oh well, I guess if you didn't have a constant somewhere, you wouldn't be able to do many equations

 

bingo....nothing is constant its because we as a race like to catigorise things we make up our own rules...we make up our own constants....the speed of light can be slowed quite alot by passing it through air thats at -kelvin absoulte 0... i think its -273 degrees....CMIR...

 

[quote="MB7201"]can you then explain to me how you would be able to see anything if you were traveling at the speed of light?
thus, the observer would not be able to observe anything

explain

 

go to the library
find the childrens section
look up dr seuss

 

having googled the cat business, you have to propos that the cat will be dead in the time it takes the air to run out in the vacuum filled steel chamber
this will be a lot sooner than the radioactive substance (which could also be porposed woudl kill the cat) runs out and breaks the cat killing capsule with the cat killing acid in it

to presume that the cat will be alive indeffinitly is a falicy because you have sealed the cat in it's doom when you have closed the chamber door
if you were not to open the door within a matter of minutes the cat would certainly perish

(all this is assuming that there is a small bax the cat is going to be placed into, not a big steel room the size of an oil tanker which would give the cat a lot longer to live because the air would be more sustainable and it also doesn't prusme that there would be food and water left inside for said cat to nourish itself on for the duration of int experimental incarcaration)

 

thats all well and good,,,, PROVE IT

 

[quote="dojj"]i dont really understand your question,,,of cuase that statement is hypothetical and something we could practice

 

piss poor dojj, we need a sensible explanation....like in one or 2 sentances, not a google copy....

got to be able to do it......

 

 

Well, I havnt actually been to the speed of light so don't know exactly
, but in theory you would just see a still image


I was thinking one possible way around this. Light has been shown to take the properties of both a wave and a particle. So with this we see the properties of the wave come in but in reality the particle is unaffected and still travelling at the same speed?

 

i dont think that is true,, as we would see a change of colour if this was the case

 

yes...you would see the colour thats frequency is a srog of the original wavelength...

 

That was 'clutching at straws' attempt

Thats all I've got

 

wernt bad tho.....now WHAT ABOUT THE FOOKIN CAT?????

 

The speed of light is relative to the observer, even if he/she is traveling at the speed of light, the light will still travel away from them at the speed of light.

 

If you travel at the speed of light then you are travelling with the light so you will only see a still image.

 

Nope, light will accelerate away from you at the speed of light, regardless of your velocity. To you, everything seems normal
Relativity - its a headfuck

 

I dont know what you mean..... Wiki is better for this sort of stuff



Yeah, what he said

 

Looks like we've got to the point now where its out of our league and now just trying to blag BS explainations

 

how did i copy that from google?
i went to winkopleadia and read about it there
seems a nice and simple eplanation that you have to accept the feline will un out of o2 before it's going to get killed by the ration running out and killing it via lukeamia or the like

 

speak for yourself and me

 

Nope, light will accelerate away from you at the speed of light, regardless of your velocity. To you, everything seems normal Clin d'oeil
Relativity - its a headfuck Surpris
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don't get that at all