Wideband AFR Gauge's... Whats "the best"
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Wideband AFR Gauge's... Whats "the best"
As above, looked at the LM-1 and it looks good, but any others you'd recommend?
Preferably one that's an actual gauge to fit in say a pillar pod etc, than a hand help item.
What is better, digital or dial? I've heard good arguements for both...
Digital easier to get accurate reading... Dial easier to spot quick differences...
Cheers
Preferably one that's an actual gauge to fit in say a pillar pod etc, than a hand help item.
What is better, digital or dial? I've heard good arguements for both...
Digital easier to get accurate reading... Dial easier to spot quick differences...
Cheers
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http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm
used this for 12 months now with no probs at all ivr had loads of lm1s and lc1s and there really unrelable had to return 4 in a month and i threw the last 2 in the bin
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
this make for good reading the amount of bugs innovate have is shocking
used this for 12 months now with no probs at all ivr had loads of lm1s and lc1s and there really unrelable had to return 4 in a month and i threw the last 2 in the bin
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
this make for good reading the amount of bugs innovate have is shocking
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I use the Innovate LM-1 with the XD-16 gauge. We have monitored its accuracy against the high-speed lambda equipment within the Dyno Dynamics RR and it is very good.
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I use the Innovate LM-1 with the XD-16 gauge. We have monitored its accuracy against the high-speed lambda equipment within the Dyno Dynamics RR and it is very good.
We also use a MoTeC PLM, but at £1000, it's a little expensive to run on an end-user level!!
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Originally Posted by smidsy
Does anyone know the cheapest place to get the LM-1 or the dynojet then?
Best I've found on the dynojet is £408
Best I've found on the dynojet is £408
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I reckon, off the top of my head, around £330 (plus postage) for the complete kit, which includes the Sensor, Stainless Sensor Boss to go in the exhaust, Bung for when you don't want the sensor in there, Gauge with choice of black or white fascia, lead and software for the PC and all the other associated hardware.
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http://www.grahamgoode.com/innovate/
cheapest ive found used to deal with them until i had to many returns
the aem ones are good
cheapest ive found used to deal with them until i had to many returns
the aem ones are good
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Innovate are streets ahead in terms of technology than others mentioned. You can't test one gauge against another - you have to test against a referemce - ie a reference gas with known oxygen content.
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If you want the best, you won't use a Bosch LSU4 based system.. you'll use a proper NTK wide band lambda sensor.. unfortunately these come in at around £850+vat for the complete setup (well, without a gauge as such).. 8)
Otherwise.. I've personally had no problem with the Innovate stuff..
Otherwise.. I've personally had no problem with the Innovate stuff..
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Innovate will take the NTK sensor. Paying for higly calibrated sensors is pointless with the LM-1 as it calibrates itself, and doesn't rely on the calibration resistor. Secondly, Expensive calibrated sensors are only good for a limited number of hours, as the calibration wanders. Great for people like Stu, not so great for most others lol.
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the lc1 u can mount in a car. The LC1 is a controller, you can then connect the XD16 gauge to it. You can also connect a gauge to the LM-1 as well.
The innovate range is massive, u can log EGT's, duty cycle's, pressure's etc.
The innovate range is massive, u can log EGT's, duty cycle's, pressure's etc.
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
so you cant actually mount the LM1 in car then? What afr gauge can you get that can be mounted in car?
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Originally Posted by jaycos
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm
used this for 12 months now with no probs at all ivr had loads of lm1s and lc1s and there really unrelable had to return 4 in a month and i threw the last 2 in the bin
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
this make for good reading the amount of bugs innovate have is shocking
used this for 12 months now with no probs at all ivr had loads of lm1s and lc1s and there really unrelable had to return 4 in a month and i threw the last 2 in the bin
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/
this make for good reading the amount of bugs innovate have is shocking
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http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/product_...373d88803a858a
Around 160£ including sensor and connectors. Has a EGT display too.
Around 160£ including sensor and connectors. Has a EGT display too.
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i've had a Tech edge for 2+years, and used it nearly everyday, as always fitted in one of my cars. both my cars were setup using it, and about 6 others too.
And on a DD rolling road, they both read the same.
http://techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/default.htm
My Brothers got a AEM set up, and think it cost him £170 all inc, I've not got round to testing it yet. but will do soon.
And on a DD rolling road, they both read the same.
http://techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/default.htm
My Brothers got a AEM set up, and think it cost him £170 all inc, I've not got round to testing it yet. but will do soon.
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Be carefull if you are using any wideband sensor for mapping as I have seen some 1 AFR reading rich which is a big problem if you intend to run it lean,
I would as a min test any against a know Meter with a calibrated NTK.
Mark
I would as a min test any against a know Meter with a calibrated NTK.
Mark
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Originally Posted by fiesta cossie
mine was checked when i first brought it against a Autronic set up, with a NTK
Then on DD RR about 3months ago, and spot on both times.