Porkie

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Thanks Johnny. I don't read it like that and I really hope people realise I am not like that.

But I am sorry that it now looks like I have caused a problem for Nutter

He is a top bloke and didn't deserve to get dragged into it. Apologies Jon.

Dingy

Cola

So does that mean you ARE narked about the useless bastard comment?

Dingy

Cola

Good. You narky northern git.

COMEDY DAN

Didnt Steve Scott pass Dingy TWICE in one session at Ford Fair?

Silverstone just showed the difference in class when the WRC cars were on track.

Proper cars, with 100k+ builds, in my eyes there is no comparison to the modified road cars.

Dingys car did look fast at Donnington, however there was no Scotty, no Stuart Whyte, no AM sport escorts and no Andrew Gallagher to name a few, as they were racing in the ford Saloon championship in Anglessey.

The way the track looked would have been a totally different story and that is the bottom line.

Dingy

Anonymous

Im going to stick up for Dingy here . Dont think Dingy compared his car to a proper Track car with an experienced driver , although others have tried too. Why bring these competition cars in to a Topic about Dingy efforts at Donno.
Dingy was one of the fastest road car at Donno that day, lets praise him not knock it .
Rod
ps. defending Dingy was easier than I thiught.

Hardeep_Singh

any VIDS!????

Cola

To be fair on the experienced driver front it does have to be said that he knows what he’s doing. When he took my car out a couple of years back he was doing some big boys (I have the now unimpressive 330 bhp).

To the point that when I was filling up on the way out a lad said he’d watched me all day and couldn’t believe how much I had improved (like I was gonna tell him it wasn’t me driving, the joy of crash helmets ) He asked about power and I said stage 3. He was amazed. All down to Dings driving.

And before the slurping comments, I am usually the first one to slag off, pick fights or generally abuse him

sbd16v

i have seen on a few diffent sites now about dingys car at the weekend from ppl who did not even know whos car it was

althou i was not there sounds like he had a really good setion and was one of the if not the fastest car on the day


WHO give's 2 fucks if a 100K race car would be faster

dingys car is a awsome road car that is used on the track

not a race car thats used on track days making themselfs look really good againest road cars

Anonymous

Should be the last comment, totally sums it up.

Greeny

Dingy is claming, other people said, he was doing times that would put him on terms with Steve, Stewart, Chris etc..... so of course people are gonna make comparissons! Of course having said that the Fords Saloon boys run on ROAD tyres and Dingy was on full slicks.

NMS Badboy^NUTTER^

Stu @ M Developments

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Shame to read.

martinrs500labatts

well i was not the one to say my cars faster then your ect.


dingys was the guy putting the record straight above,



you will not find me coming on here say this and that rubbish i aint bothered who passes me on a track day and my cars better then your grap,

why would i need to?

so dont blame me for the decline in this post.

NMS Badboy^NUTTER^

This is quite interesting, getting back on topic, Steve Scott had the fastest lap of the race in the Ford saloon car championship in may, at Donington park; 1:25.127 And it was dry. And a qualifying lap of 1:17.058. Just goes to show how fast Dingdong is around there

http://www.msttiming.com/result.asp?...tdonington.gif

martinrs500labatts

no one said he was slow,

i did say he was going well to him on the day

4x4pete

I was with steve that day as im one of his pit crew and the race was run on full wets as it was raining

and qualifying was spitting with rain but went out on drys as not that wet im sure steve will back this up in the morn

and he was in a road legal track car on road tyres

Andy_R

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Would that have been the full circuit? Or as it was on Sunday?

There was a session on Sunday where I spend around 3 or 4 laps behind Dingy & a 3dr I believe to have been Lee(Tib). From memory the track was reasonaby clear.

I have viewed incar footage from a later session where clear lap times are consistant at 1:25.

I know that Dingy & Lee were lapping FAST & marginaly faster than myself however it would not have been as much as 2 or 3 seconds.

Dingy was indeed driving very well as was Lee however I would not put the laps in the 1min teens.

NMS Badboy^NUTTER^

I only read what was on the website and it says cloudy/dry

Not that i don't believe you

Sticky.

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NMS Badboy^NUTTER^

Well last year, which was dry, which i know 'cos i was there, Steve got the pole with a 1:20.005, and fastest race lap of 1:19.725, according to the website

And this years touring car's fastest laps were 1:13's

4x4pete

Race report from the dry day in may

http://www.fordracinguk.com/document...027MAY2006.pdf

Greeny

ok how do you lot define a 'RACE CAR'???

Does it have a cage? Race seats and harnesses? Coil overs? Big Brakes? Big horse power? Different suspension pick up points ie five linked etc...?

Surely if thats how you all define a race car then nearly every fast, perpose built track car is a race car?

End of the day what sets a 'race car' apart from a 'track car' is that the owner is prepared to race it and put his times and skills to the test for everyone to see in the form of qualifiying and race results, rather than the constant pub talk of 'oh if i was racing.................'

as for cost and some claiming there's 100k in some of the escort cossies race cars - wake up!!!! have you seen the price of some of the Mk1 & 2 escorts out there??? I'd like to bet dingy, martin hadland, mike rainbird, john nutter etc... have got more money in there 'track' cars than most of the competitors in all of the club racing championships in the uk!!

Simon

NMS Badboy^NUTTER^

PMSL Even on that report it says conditions are cloudy/dry, at the bottom of the page, after stating it was a wet race

Dingy

Lee_R21Turbo

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Don't think this ripping chunks out of each other should be done on a public forum - Stu - perhaps its appropriate to prune the thread of all the shit as I'm sure people dont want to see it!!!!

Sticky.

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Lock it or Dummy Room time.......

Shame

Stevewrc

If I am going to get dragged into this Nutter please get the facts right.
Donnington in May of this year I qualified in pole on a 1.17 the track was slippery due to it spitting of rain (lap record for Ford Championship in the dry by Gareth Lloyd is 1.16.7 I was less than a .25 of a second off this pace on a wet track). The race was a complete downpour on full wets with my best lap being 1.25, this was shown on Motors TV in Autosport and on Ford Racing website all showing it was totally pissing down.

As for last year I qualified with a brake problem and cars off everywhere and yellow flags so no quick laps were achieved. I was amazed that I still got pole on a 1.20. As for the race I got a good start and pulled a good lead on the first lap, after this I settled into a steady pace of 1.19's which was quick enough for a healthy lead, I turned the boost down and short shifted and won easily.

Donnington is renowed for the change of grip on the track, this is due to the fuel being dumped by aircraft flying over. I have tested there 2 days before a race meeting with no change of weather and there has been as much difference as 2 seconds a lap in times.

Fair play to Dingy he has a quick car and was obviously going well at the weekend. Wish I had been there to see all the action have to wait until next year.

Regards Steve Scott

Dicko&Vacant

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every good post on here lately turns into fookin arguments lol bout time people start to grow up imo

PF Dave

That makes me feel quite pleased with myself then as I have video footage and was independantly timed at 1.28 at the weekend in my little Fiesta...

...Plenty more to come from it yet

Dicko&Vacant

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must say dave yr xr2 was fookin flying quality fun car

NMS Badboy^NUTTER^

Steve, i just quoted the times and weather given on the BRSCC ( i think) website.

No offence meant, if you took it that way.

RWD_cossie_wil

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Fair play, that is the funniest thing I have heard for a long time sorry mate, but that is is ABSOLUTE BOLLOX, aircraft do not dump fuel unless they are in SERIOUS trouble, i.e need to loose weight rapidly, to ensure the safty of thier flight. Any fuel dumping is 99.9% normally carried out over unpopulated areas, usually the sea, to ensure no enviromental or health problems are caused , the only time fuel dumping over a populated area would occur is if an aircraft was in grave danger of crashing, which is even more rare than a car not being stolen from national day better break out the big book of driver excuses again mate
regards, wil, qualified pilot and aircraft engineer

TiB

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I would of presumed he only meant the residue from whats coming out of the back of the engine...

Stevewrc

Hi Wil I'm only going on past experience and information given to me. After reading your post I contacted a customer who is a Captain for Easy Jet and also races he confirmed that a certain amount of unburt sooty fuel residue is left by aircraft. This has also come up in conversation with the chief driving instructor at Donnington it was in the last race report from the BRSCC and when the last British Touring Car race was at Donnington the reporters on TV were saying about the problem with the aviation fuel residue on the track when it is damp. At the end of the day I was just stating from experience the difference in grip level at the circuit within 2 days of me testing and racing I have not got a book of driver excuses I dont need them if I fuck up Im big enough to put my hands up to it.

martinrs500labatts

anyone that knows steve knows he dont need excuses as he wins most races he does.

times are for time sheets its who in front over the line that counts in a race,

Steven_RW

i did a bit of lap timing for everyone and no one was in the teens

RW

martinrs500labatts

but you can not get a time on a track day with traffic,

remember its overtake on straights only and on the left, and no overtaking on the crainer curves

ask marco about overtaking on the right down crainer curves as he got black flagged and frown off track for doing it!

so how you going to get a clean lap?

even i have found qualifing in a race you get people in your way most of the time.